Leftwich gets through first practice

[Mosh Pitt]

Don´t know if this has been posted yet but here it goes..........


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Leftwich gets through 1st practice with Steelers

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LATROBE, Pa. (AP)—Byron Leftwich waited nine months to get back on the practice field. Now that he’s done that, his first NFL action is likely only days away.

Signed by the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday, the quarterback brought in to replace injured backup Charlie Batch impressed during his first two practices with the team on Monday, so much that coach Mike Tomlin said “it looks like he’ll be able to play” Thursday when the team plays the Buffalo Bills in Toronto.

“I was impressed simply by the fact he was a quick study,” Tomlin said after a rain-soaked afternoon practice at Saint Vincent College. “He was able to step out there and step in the huddle, spew the verbiage out, get people lined up and actually get the ball around.”

Leftwich, a former No. 7 overall pick and starter for the Jacksonville Jaguars, worked out Sunday for the team along with former Minnesota Vikings Pro Bowl quarterback Daunte Culpepper. The team was need of a veteran backup after Batch broke his collarbone in a 16-10 preseason win Friday against Philadelphia.

“Any time you put on shoulder pads and helmets for the first day, it’s always tough,” said Leftwich, who was released by the Jaguars after training camp last year and appeared in three games with the Atlanta Falcons. “I haven’t had a chance to put this stuff on since November when I got hurt, so it’s good to be out here and good to be part of an organization like this.”

Leftwich has no illusions about being a starter with Pittsburgh, which has Pro Bowler Ben Roethlisberger at the position. But after Batch, the team had only rookies Dennis Dixon and Mike Potts on the roster and wanted some insurance. Batch had surgery Monday and is expected to miss about six weeks.

Leftwich is reunited with Steelers quarterbacks coach Ken Anderson, who held the same position with Jacksonville.

“He’s a very smart quarterback, and he’s got a strong arm,” Anderson said. “He understands we have an established starter here, and he’s just happy to do what we ask him to do.”

Others besides Batch not practicing for Pittsburgh on Monday were punter Daniel Sepulveda, safety Ryan Mundy, who will miss at least two weeks with a high ankle sprain, cornerback Deshea Townsend (groin) and rookies defensive lineman Kyle Clement (knee) and linebacker Mike Humpel (neck).

Linebacker James Harrison missed the afternoon session after getting kicked in the shin during the morning workout, and safety Troy Polamalu remains on the physically unable to perform list due to a hamstring injury.

Among those who did practice was nose guard Casey Hampton, who came off the physically unable to perform list Sunday after reporting to camp overweight.

“It’s going to be a little work, but when it’s time, I’ll be ready to go,” Hampton said.

[The UnderDawg]

I find it kind of sad that Batch got hurt. He was a pretty decent backup, and might be able to start somewhere someday. Well, I guess this is what happens when you let your offensive line go to hell and now your stuck with this trash of a QB.

[CAH]

Leftwich is a great #2 QB. Liked/hated him as a Jaguar and he has a strong arm. Actually, I looked for Baltimore to call him.

[Big Fella]

I find it kind of sad that Batch got hurt. He was a pretty decent backup, and might be able to start somewhere someday. Well, I guess this is what happens when you let your offensive line go to hell and now your stuck with this trash of a QB.
Dude is 33 and already had an average/below average stint as a starter. I doubt that was in his cards.

[The UnderDawg]

Dude is 33 and already had an average/below average stint as a starter. I doubt that was in his cards.

Still this is a league where someone like Kyle Boller or Rex Grossman can hold a job.

[JEFFRO]

Still this is a league where someone like Kyle Boller or Rex Grossman can hold a job.

That is the most disturbing fact in the whole conversation.

Here I thought it was Billick's thinking that he could win with any QB as long as he had a strong Defense.
Apparently it is the front office of the Rats that has that line of thinking because they have yet to address the need in any real way.

[TDX27]

Batch was a great back up for us. If he can come back healthy and they keep him, I am all for it. However, I have no problems with Leftwich as our #2. He can come in and win some games for us. Granted, he is no Ben but he isn't supposed to be - just as Batch wasn't. I'd take Leftwich over 2/3 to 3/4 of the #2's in the league.

[Steelers.exe]

So he made it through his first practice and did not in up in a walking boot. Fabulous.

[TMC]

I find it funny that the highest drafted QB on our roster is Leftwich. He was taken 4 spots ahead of Roethlisberger. If they sign Culpepper and keep Ben, Lefty, and Pepper, Ben would be the lowest drafted QB on roster.

Speaks volumes about player evaluation, doesn't it?

[TMC]

Scratch that, Ben and Culpepper were both selected 11th. So, Ben would have been tied for the lowest drafted QB.

Anyway........

[TMC]

I also think this speaks volumes about how the team feels about Batch.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/200808/dianasteelers0811c_330.jpg

IF they pay Batch an injury settlement, I hope they provide rehab and allow him to be around the team even though he would be considered a FA. It would be the smarter financial move (over IR) because the injury settlement does not count against the cap.

[markymarc]

Great......now just make sure you make it through the rest of preseason games. Leftwich and Dixon can now see who has the weirder throwing motion. Glad that we have Leftwich as our #2 now.

[Coryea]

I find it kind of sad that Batch got hurt. He was a pretty decent backup, and might be able to start somewhere someday. Well, I guess this is what happens when you let your offensive line go to hell and now your stuck with this trash of a QB.

It didn't look like the Oline had anything to do with Batch getting hurt, it was a busted play, Batch turned to hand off and the RB went out to block or on a route, so Batch took off.

Leftwich is a solid QB, he has better weapons around him here than he ever did in Jax and they went to the playoffs with him at QB.

[Vis Major]

I find it kind of sad that Batch got hurt. He was a pretty decent backup, and might be able to start somewhere someday. Well, I guess this is what happens when you let your offensive line go to hell and now your stuck with this trash of a QB.

So what were you doing while the rest of us were actually watching the game?

[JohnnyO]

Dude is 33 and already had an average/below average stint as a starter. I doubt that was in his cards.
When Batch was in Detroit he played behind a worse OL than even the current Steelers have.
Leftwitch does not exactly have a reputation for durability, OTOH he's five years younger than Batch and might end up liking it here.

[t-man]

I find it kind of sad that Batch got hurt. He was a pretty decent backup, and might be able to start somewhere someday. Well, I guess this is what happens when you let your offensive line go to hell and now your stuck with this trash of a QB.

Of all the dumbass statements I've heard, this one is near the top of the list. How does a busted play, when combined with batch running PAST the line, equate to this being the Oline's fault?

Joe

[Spike]

Browns trolls shouldn't be encouraged - ignore them.

[Spike]

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Quarterback Byron Leftwich, who should be starting somewhere else in the NFL, took his first snaps on the practice field as the new No. 2 quarterback with the Steelers yesterday, and it's possible he could stay there the whole season.

While the playoff opportunities for teams such as the Minnesota Vikings, Chicago Bears and Baltimore Ravens go begging for a decent starting quarterback, Leftwich scalded the hands of new receivers with his well-known fastball in two practices at Saint Vincent College.

"Byron was a No. 1 pick, the seventh overall in the draft," said Steelers quarterbacks coach Ken Anderson, who coached Leftwich for three seasons in Jacksonville. "He's started in the league, won games in the league. We're happy to have him here to kind of bail us out."

Leftwich, 28, could not understand why he remained unsigned since Atlanta released him in February, then he stopped trying to understand. He started four seasons for the Jaguars, where he was 24-20 in games spread among his injuries.
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He has had two noticeable flaws, one he says has been corrected. He had persistent ankle injuries that date to his days at Marshall University when his teammates would pick him up and carry him to the huddle after he completed a pass. He said surgery last year finally fixed that.

"It's been the same injury time and time again, but I never got it fixed because, I wasn't a doctor and nobody told me, hey, you need to get that fixed," Leftwich said. "Once I got it fixed, it's better now. Last year I got something different, a high ankle sprain on the other ankle."

The other is a noticeable windup in his throwing motion that prevents him from getting the ball away more quickly. Coaches have tried to change that, with little luck.

"Your quarterback's throwing motion is his throwing motion and that's not going to change a whole lot," Anderson said. "Everyone knows Byron's got a little of an elongated motion and he's going to have to make it up with smarts and anticipation."

Leftwich noted another way in which he makes up for lost time because of his windup. "I feel as though I'm a little slower with my windup, so I just throw the ball faster and it gets there at the same time."

Leftwich should be able to pick up enough of the offense and its numerology to play Thursday against the Buffalo Bills in Toronto.

"I was impressed simply by the fact he's a quick study," coach Mike Tomlin said. "He was able to step out there, step in the huddle, spew the verbiage out, get people lined up actually and deliver the ball around. He's a very sharp guy, that's obvious ... I would guess he'll be able to play on Thursday."

Factors seem to point to him remaining No. 2 to Ben Roethlisberger during the regular season. If he's on the roster to start the season Sept. 7, the Steelers are obligated to pay him his full salary of $645,000. Batch will miss at least six weeks.

The Steelers have gone with just two quarterbacks at times, but they had two veterans in Roethlisberger and Batch and had a younger quarterback, often Brian St. Pierre, on the practice squad.

If rookie Dennis Dixon makes great progress the next month, they could gamble and make him No. 2 until Batch heals. Or, they could stick with Leftwich and place Batch on injured reserve. They likely don't want to try to put Dixon on the practice squad because he would have to clear waivers and they could lose him.

"I just want to play football and help the team as much as I can," Leftwich said. "That's my mind-set, just go out there, become a better player, help this football team, see what happens."

It will be an adjustment for a player drafted seventh overall, a four-year starter, to play second-fiddle. But then, Leftwich had no position at all for nearly six months.

"It's different because you're not the guy and you used to be the guy," Leftwich said.

"We all know who the guy is. My job is to prepare myself every day in case I'm needed. And if I'm needed I have to go out there and we can't miss a beat, and that's what I'm going to work myself toward."
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[Steelz]

I find it kind of sad that Batch got hurt. He was a pretty decent backup, and might be able to start somewhere someday. Well, I guess this is what happens when you let your offensive line go to hell and now your stuck with this trash of a QB.

*sniff* *sniff* Is that a stain i smell?....
U sure you're at the right forum Dawg?..

[LetMePlay]

I'm not worried about Batch. Even if he is done playing - He will be a fantastic QB coach. He was awesome at camp with the younger QB (including Ben of 3 years ago).

[markymarc]

I'm not worried about Batch. Even if he is done playing - He will be a fantastic QB coach. He was awesome at camp with the younger QB (including Ben of 3 years ago).

Great point. Batch was always talking with Ben after the offense left the field. It was great to see Batch letting Ben know what he saw and offer advice. I definitely could see coaching in Batch's future.

[t-man]

*sniff* *sniff* Is that a stain i smell?....
U sure you're at the right forum Dawg?..

Hahaha, I should have looked closer at the name. No wonder you don't understand anything about quarterback selection, Tim Couch, now it's Anderson? Really? This guy is about as over-rated as they come, hell surrounded by all stars at the prow bowl he stunk it up enough to lose the game. I predict he'll be riding the pine by the 6th game of the season for your brownies, and that's if Romeo has the nuts to do it.

Joe

[GoSteelers]

I find it kind of sad that Batch got hurt. He was a pretty decent backup, and might be able to start somewhere someday. Well, I guess this is what happens when you let your offensive line go to hell and now your stuck with this trash of a QB.

Batch could win the starting job in clownland, plus you'd suck crennels cock for a player like him and leftwich.



Still this is a league where someone like Kyle Boller or Rex Grossman can hold a job.

or where tim couch could be your next draftee. how's that working out? oh, thats right.

[Stryker]

Damn linemen!! What the hell are they doing?? They should have been 7 yards down field to protect Batch after gaining yardage on a busted play!!

[markymarc]

I find it kind of sad that Batch got hurt. He was a pretty decent backup, and might be able to start somewhere someday. Well, I guess this is what happens when you let your offensive line go to hell and now your stuck with this trash of a QB.

Maybe if your lucky Leftwich can play mop up duty after Ben demolishes your pathetic defense. I would take Batch or Leftwich over anything you have lining up as QB right now. Derek Anderson..........one hit wonder. Brady Quinn.........what the fuck has he done? Enjoy your optimism now because it will fade real fast once the regular season begins.

[Stainless]

It didn't look like the Oline had anything to do with Batch getting hurt, it was a busted play, Batch turned to hand off and the RB went out to block or on a route, so Batch took off.

Leftwich is a solid QB, he has better weapons around him here than he ever did in Jax and they went to the playoffs with him at QB.

Batch broke his collarbone on the busted running play where he kind of ran up the gut? I had not idea. I was watching the game at a bar and was about 6 beers in at that point. I didn't even notice that he looked hurt after the play? Was he down on the ground? Broken collarbones supposedly hurt like hell. I guess that may depend on the severity of the break.

[Spike]

He didn't "run up the gut" he wqs scrambling to the left and got hit 10 yds downfield....by a safety.

Batch was hit by Sean Considine, the softest hitting safety in the league, according to Iggles fans - they were laughing that he could hurt anybody.....guess he got lucky, or Charlie's bones are brittle as glass.

[Stainless]

Was there another busted play where Batch was looking to hand off left, and the running back went right? I don't recall him getting much yardage at all on the play I saw. But like I said, I had a few beers.

[Ben#7]

Batch was a great back up for us. If he can come back healthy and they keep him, I am all for it. However, I have no problems with Leftwich as our #2. He can come in and win some games for us. Granted, he is no Ben but he isn't supposed to be - just as Batch wasn't. I'd take Leftwich over 2/3 to 3/4 of the #2's in the league.

Leftwich is still young and has potential. He has a good shot at being a starter for sombody else. I doubt that he will be content with returning next year as a back up.

He will use the oppertunity that the Steelers have given him as a audition to other teams who may be in need of a Starting QB next year.

He will test the free agency waters again next year to see if there is any interest. If not then we may have a shot to resign him. I wouldn't count on it though.

[Spike]

I had a few beers.

yeah - I bet. now you ask. They just replayed the whole game on the NFL Channel ---- after watching every play in slo-mo a half dozen times...I deleted it....so I'm no help now.

Thursday night - they have the Steelers/Bills replay - right after it's over --- around 10-11 oclock.

Set your DVR

[Stainless]

I don't have DVR, and my VHS VCR is busted. I may have a camera that will record to eight track that I can set up in front of the television.

[Spike]

You still living on that houseboat on the river?

[Stainless]

It's a van, and it's down by the river.

[TC237]

It's a shame about Batch.
I hated to see him get hurt, the first thing I thought was that might have been his last play in a Steeler uniform.
Unless every other back-up they bring in is a complete bust, this could be the end of his career.

If this is the end for him, I hope the team takes care of him financially.
He is a smart guy and has a few local business and edorsement deals going on.
There are many options for him if he is finally done with football, he is very good on TV and radio, I'm sure that FSN Pittsburgh and the local TV sports departments will be beating a path to his door.

[Vader]

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Maybe he should read his own article to fnd the answer. It's not hard to find:

He has had two noticeable flaws, one he says has been corrected. He had persistent ankle injuries that date to his days at Marshall University when his teammates would pick him up and carry him to the huddle after he completed a pass. He said surgery last year finally fixed that.

"It's been the same injury time and time again, but I never got it fixed because, I wasn't a doctor and nobody told me, hey, you need to get that fixed," Leftwich said. "Once I got it fixed, it's better now. Last year I got something different, a high ankle sprain on the other ankle."

The other is a noticeable windup in his throwing motion that prevents him from getting the ball away more quickly. Coaches have tried to change that, with little luck.


He can't stay health and he looks like a drunk bowler when he throws the ball. That plus the fact that if you can't start for the freakn' Atlanta Falcons then what other team in the NFL can you start for?

I'm glad he is here as a backup because he isn't starting material IMHO.

[tjack]

That plus the fact that if you can't start for the freakn' Atlanta Falcons then what other team in the NFL can you start for?

I'm not about to become an apologist for Sandwich's play while he was with the Falcons. But it was said by a few players and RB Warrick Dunn that played last season that Coach Petrino was calling plays that they didn't practice all week or had a clue about when Sandwich and Harrignton were in the huddle. Coach Pertino couldn't get himself together let alone his team.

[BigSteelThrill]

Maybe he should read his own article to fnd the answer. It's not hard to find:



He can't stay health and he looks like a drunk bowler when he throws the ball. That plus the fact that if you can't start for the freakn' Atlanta Falcons then what other team in the NFL can you start for?

I'm glad he is here as a backup because he isn't starting material IMHO.

FTR: Lefty was cut right before the start of the season.
Signed with Atlanta. It took awhile but eventually Lefty became the starter over Joey in the line up for Atlanta... only to injure his ankle in that game. (And he had minor surgery for the injury as well)

[BigSteelThrill]

It took 6 weeks...

Falcons Make Switch To QB Leftwich

ESPN - [Full Article]

With a 1-5 start, the Atlanta Falcons are reportedly making a switch at QB. Byron Leftwich will take over for Joey Harrington starting this Sunday.

[Rambo steel]

I find it kind of sad that Batch got hurt. He was a pretty decent backup, and might be able to start somewhere someday. Well, I guess this is what happens when you let your offensive line go to hell and now your stuck with this trash of a QB.

What have your Brownies done since you've come back to the league? Made the playoffs one time? Oh that's right, we're the ones that knocked you bitches out of them. You're the Bengals of 3 years ago.

[Vader]

I'm not about to become an apologist for Sandwich's play while he was with the Falcons. But it was said by a few players and RB Warrick Dunn that played last season that Coach Petrino was calling plays that they didn't practice all week or had a clue about when Sandwich and Harrignton were in the huddle. Coach Pertino couldn't get himself together let alone his team.

Since it happened to both QBS then why did they keep Harrington over Lefty? Lefty played bad and then got hurt... again.

FTR: Lefty was cut right before the start of the season.
Signed with Atlanta. It took awhile but eventually Lefty became the starter over Joey in the line up for Atlanta... only to injure his ankle in that game. (And he had minor surgery for the injury as well)

That was the point. He has been injured his ENTIRE career. Why is it such a mystery to the columnist as to why Lefty can't find a starting job???

[tjack]

Since it happened to both QBS then why did they keep Harrington over Lefty? Lefty played bad and then got hurt... again.


Well he got hurt like you said and that was it in a nut shell. Performance wasn't the reason for him not keeping the QB job.

[CLUTCH]

Byron is better than anything we had in here other than Batch in the last couple of years............huge upgrade over Brian St. whatever his name is

[Spike]

I don't care who we got as long as he don't have a rag arm.

Supe's boy ain't lookin' so good....


Dolphins | Pennington struggles Wednesday
Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:42:46 -0700
Ben Volin, of the Palm Beach Post, reports Miami Dolphins (http://www.kffl.com/team/22/nfl) QB Chad Pennington (http://www.kffl.com/player/1351/nfl) was 6-for-21 with two interceptions during practice Wednesday, Aug. 13.

[FAB802]

If Pennington had signed here he would be lighting it up. Just wearing the black and gold would have added 20mph to his throws.

[markymarc]

Ouch. Bad debut for Pennington.

[tjack]

I don't care who we got as long as he don't have a rag arm.

Supe's boy ain't lookin' so good....


Dolphins | Pennington struggles Wednesday
Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:42:46 -0700
Ben Volin, of the Palm Beach Post, reports Miami Dolphins (http://www.kffl.com/team/22/nfl) QB Chad Pennington (http://www.kffl.com/player/1351/nfl) was 6-for-21 with two interceptions during practice Wednesday, Aug. 13.

Can you imagine what Joey Porter is thinking now?

[Vader]

Well he got hurt like you said and that was it in a nut shell. Performance wasn't the reason for him not keeping the QB job.

Yea, I'm sure his 1 TD 2 ints and 59.5 QB rating had nothing to do with him getting cut. He played bad THEN he got injured. If he were tearing it up and then got hurt they would have kept him.

[CornerBlitz]

Can you imagine what Joey Porter is thinking now?

Porter is probably wandering how did he allow those 6 completions.

[tjack]

Taken from the ajc.com

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 10/17/07

Flowery Branch -- Falcons coach Bobby Petrino replaced starting quarterback Joey Harrington with Byron Leftwich Wednesday in hopes of jump-starting a reeling team that has lost five of its first six games.

Leftwich will be the starter for the rest of the season, Petrino said, with Sunday's game at New Orleans being his first for Atlanta.

"We're 1-5 and we just didn't feel good about some of the things we did, particularly after turnovers, so we're making the change," Petrino said. "Joey took it good. He's a professional. One thing about playing quarterback: A lot of times when things aren't going good, all 11 guys on the field play a part into it, but you know in the business that the quarterback is the one you make a change with."

Harrington, who was demoted to No. 2, was not available for comment after practice. Petrino said he notified Harrington first, then Leftwich, of the decision at separate meetings Wednesday morning.

Leftwich, who signed with Atlanta as a free agent a month ago after being released by the Jaguars this preseason, assumed his new role with the first team at practice.

"It was great, just like old times," Leftwich said. "It was a great feeling to be in there and for those guys to welcome me with open arms. That's the thing that was special about it. Those guys welcomed me in and treated me like they wanted me to be there. That's a good feeling anytime as a player."

Though Harrington (123-for-195, 1,279 yards, four touchdowns, four interceptions) had not played poorly, he failed to generate points and consistency with an offense that ranks among the NFL's worst in every category. He was not helped by pass protection that has allowed 21 sacks and a dormant running game that made Atlanta easy to defend against.....

.....Leftwich replaced Harrington in the fourth quarter of a 20-13 loss at Tennessee two weeks ago and completed just 2-of-8 passes. He also threw an interception and badly missed wide receiver Laurent Robinson in the end zone on a potential game-tying play. His rustiness and unfamiliarity with the offense were obvious.

The fifth-year veteran was elevated to second string following the loss to the Titans. But he sprained his right ankle in practice last week, missed most of the next two practices and was designated the No. 3 quarterback for Monday night's 31-10 loss to the New York Giants.

From the Falcons team website.

Atlanta signed former Jaguars quarterback Byron Leftwich on Sept. 18 to compete for a spot at quarterback. He ended the season with two starts and a meddlesome ankle injury.

The 6-foot-5, 250-pound signal-caller threw for 279, a touchdown and two interceptions in three appearances in 2007. His first start was Oct. 21 at New Orleans and led the team to 13-7 halftime advantage. He injured his right ankle on the first offensive series of the second half, however, and was inactive for seven of the last nine games.

Leftwich returned to the starting lineup Nov. 18 against the Buccaneers, but was pulled from the game after accounting for four turnovers (two interceptions and two fumbles). Leftwich returned to No. 3 quarterback status when Chris Redman became the starter for the last four games of 2007.

"My performance was poor and I will look over the things that I didn't do so well," Leftwich said after the Bucs game. "As the quarterback of this team I have to set the precedent and put numbers on the board."

Injuries killed Byron's chances to keep playing over Harrington and bad playing calling killed any QB's chance of winning any games while Coach Petrino was there.

[CornerBlitz]

With all the weight that Byron has lost I think he may just be more mobile than many here think. He will not be a scrambler but he looks like he just might be able to roll the pocket and use that howitzer of an arm to his advantage. Hell, Neil O'Donnell was the most effective planned roll out passer we have had in the Burgh for the last 20 years.

[markymarc]

With all the weight that Byron has lost I think he may just be more mobile than many here think. He will not be a scrambler but he looks like he just might be able to roll the pocket and use that howitzer of an arm to his advantage. Hell, Neil O'Donnell was the most effective planned roll out passer we have had in the Burgh for the last 20 years.

The weight loss should really help Leftwich. And like you said he knows how to zip the ball in there. Can't wait to see how he does tonight against the Bills.

[topseed]

Can you imagine what Joey Porter is thinking now?

Why in God's name did we just sign this clown for $11.5 mill for two years?

[LetMePlay]

I still cant believe that they gave Pennington almost 12mil. Thats horrific.

[markymarc]

I still cant believe that they gave Pennington almost 12mil. Thats horrific.

No question that was a desperation move by the Phins. Crazy money for Mr. Noodle arm.