View Full Version : Kevin Huntley DE - Another New Steeler
papa lazarou
08-12-2008, 11:10 PM
Seems as though we are scanning those waiver wires already...Kyle Clement's knee sprain must be a bad one as he is the unlucky player to go in favour of Huntley. Has the size at 6-7, 290lbs. Has been in Oakland and Atlanta and recently the Redskins.
BermudaSteel
08-12-2008, 11:19 PM
Link needed...
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/sports/13714324/detail.html#huntley?rss=pit&psp=sports
The Steelers claim third-year defensive end Kevin Huntley off waivers from the Washington Redskins. Huntley (6-7, 290) originally signed with the Oakland Raiders as a rookie free agent from Kansas State in 2006. He played in the final five games of his rookie season with Oakland and registered 10 tackles, 2.5 sacks and a recovered fumble. He spent the 2007 season with the Atlanta Falcons and recorded three tackles while playing in five games. The Steelers made room for Huntley on their roster by releasing rookie free agent defensive end Kyle Clement.
Steelers coach Mike Tomlin held his weekly news conference this afternoon.
tjack
08-12-2008, 11:30 PM
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/BDX/BDX009/angry-senior-man_~bxp252759.jpg
WHAT! Another Huntley? Well good thing he plays on Defense so if he happens to causes a fumble it won't be a bad thing.
BermudaSteel
08-12-2008, 11:41 PM
Hmmm...he doesn't seem to have an injury (noteably)...
I wonder what's wrong w/ him? Must be a big, slow, black guy:eek:
slashsteel
08-12-2008, 11:43 PM
Huntley tall and light in the pants IMO for a DE in our scheme. Shame about Clement I had heard a lot of good things about him.
Kyle Clement looked like a boy amongst men the other night. I was cheering for him also.
Super Dave
08-13-2008, 12:10 AM
Did they have to release Clement?
CornerBlitz
08-13-2008, 12:22 AM
Probably an injury settlement and hopefully a practice suad spot
SteelerFan448
08-13-2008, 12:39 AM
Depth doesn't hurt. Too bad it was at the expense over another DE with some potential.
Sluzilla
08-13-2008, 10:35 AM
looks like Huntley's been on 4-3 teams...which as a DE or DT he may not have fit well...may be OK in a 3-4...
I would not call a 6'7"-290 pound man light in the pants. He is almost the same size as Max Starks.....
The thing is, Huntley was penciled in to be the starter at RDE for the Raiders as early as last season. They felt he would be a force against the run.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2007/07/18/position-group-analysis-defensive-line/
I think he was caught in a numbers game in Oakland. They started Burgess and Kelly at end in the first game and had Clemons, Brayton, and Richardson waiting in the wings.
After being released from Oakland, he landed on the Falcons practice squad, was activated, played 4 games, was released and placed back on the practice squad. The Falcons had Abraham at RDE and Anderson, the rookie, at LDE. They used Huntley in a few games as the 4th DE in rotation, but bounced him down and brought up another guy....almost like they were simply searching for help. I have to wonder if it was the player or just a poorly ran franchise. This was happening around the time that Patrino was bailing. I would not put a ton of stock in anything that happened with this franchise last year.
The Redskins signed him this offseason to compete for a job. They lost a starter and key backup to injuries the first day of camp. Andre Carter (former 49er) is the RDE and they traded for Jason Taylor, who is their starting LDE. They also traded for Erasmus James, who was on the PUP. He came off the PUP list and they needed roster space for him, so they released Huntley. The Skins also have Demetric Evans, who has been a valuable backup for them. They have 2nd year guy Chris Wilson, who is a speed pass rusher and he shows good promise. The last spot is held down by a rookie they seem to like.
While I am not stating Huntley will be a world changer for us, he has started in this league at DE. It is not like we have not cut guys to watch them go elsewhere and find a home....Hank Fraley anyone?
I like his size. If he can show ANYTHING resembling a pass rush and is able to tackle a runner, IMO, I keep him over some we have.
Seems as though we are scanning those waiver wires already...
This is something I wish we would do more often. You cannot tell me that a guy like Micah Rucker or Jeremy Bloom is shining so brightly that we cannot take a look at other team's cuts to see if they can help us.
If Huntley comes in and in a week, he looks like shit, get back on the wire and keep looking. It only costs you ONE roster spot in 80 to look at these guys. Hell, if it cost you 4 roster spots and you stumble on a guy like Hank Fraley once every other year, you are better.
There is no signing bonus here. His salary is not in the top 51. We basically get a free look.
If he is worse than what we have, it will show in a few days of practice. I feel we should leave no stone unturned.....especially 6'7"-290 pound stones that can rush the passer.
leftcoaststeelerfan
08-13-2008, 11:38 AM
But can he play on the O-Line?
/SN members
papa lazarou
08-13-2008, 11:53 AM
Some sites have him listed at 270lbs and others 290lbs... a bit of a difference... perhaps he is light in the pants as a DE in the 3-4???
Smooth Criminal
08-13-2008, 01:24 PM
Hes got th size if hes anywhere near 290. Hell 270 is a decent sized 3-4 end. Size doesnt always equal strength though.
Sluzilla
08-13-2008, 01:28 PM
Hes got th size if hes anywhere near 290. Hell 270 is a decent sized 3-4 end. Size doesnt always equal strength though.
290 is the low side for a 3-4 DE...i wouldn't want him less than that...270 at 6'7" he'd be closer to a OLB IMO...
He was 270 coming out of college. That was in 2005. I would guess that in 3 seasons he has added 20 pounds.
CornerBlitz
08-13-2008, 03:09 PM
He had 2 1/2 sacks in a handful of games with the Raiders, how many did Kiesel have in 16 games last year.
By the way, Bruce Smith was the best DE ever in a 3-4 defense, he was smaller than Huntley, as TMC pointed out it is not costing us shit to check him out.McBean is not showing much according to Tomlin and Eason amd Kirtschke are both garbage..
Hell, if James Harrison can beat a LT with his size, size should not be the issue. Kendrell Bell used to abuse ANY lineman he faced, he is not where near the size of Huntley.
It will come down to simple ability. Either you can play or you can't.
Max Power
08-13-2008, 04:33 PM
Hell, if James Harrison can beat a LT with his size, size should not be the issue. Kendrell Bell used to abuse ANY lineman he faced, he is not where near the size of Huntley.
It will come down to simple ability. Either you can play or you can't.
Is there enough time for a player such as Huntley to even show that he's worthy of a roster spot? One Pre-season game past and the second coming up tomorrow.. can he have enough of an impact that quickly?
In short is time on Huntley's side?
Well, he also has practices. The cutdown date to 75 is August 26th. That is almost 2 full weeks and 2 preseason games.
Also, just thought I would mention, I just saw the last 10 minutes of the Bills preseason game against Washington. I saw Huntley on 6 defensive plays. Here is what he did:
1-He was at RDE (#97) and they swept his side, he was able to keep his arms extended, shake the block, and make the tackle.
2-The Bills pass, Huntley gives a nice push-pull and slings his man aside. He closes pretty quickly for a big man. The QB is facing him and unloads it hitting one of the DL and it fell to the ground. Huntley was flagged for roughing the passer....I think his helmet hit the helmet of the QB and he was flagged. It really did not look flagrant.
3-An inside run, he steps outside, keeps containment, then crashes inside to get an arm on the RB. The ball is fumbled and picked up by Rian Wallace who takes it down the sideline. Now, the play was whistled down, but I thought it was interesting that Huntley was leading the convoy of blockers down the sideline.
The Skins held the damn ball until there was 27 seconds left and gave it back to the Bills on their 1.
4-The play was a quick swing to the right side of the defense. The Skins had flipped Huntley to the left. He was a non-factor.
5-The Bills drop back to throw and go deep. Huntley had pushed his guy back and the ball was underthrown and incomplete. Oddly enough, Huntley's guy was called for illegal formation because he lined up too far off the LOS.
6-They dumped it to the back on the other side. Huntley basically handled contain and was looking for a screen dump. He popped up and had his head up.
Honestly, while I realize he was playing against guys like Parquet and Lentz, he looked alright. He damn sure looked better than what I have saw from Prince and Reffet.
Spike
08-13-2008, 05:20 PM
Thanks TMC - good scouting jaerb!
GoSteelers
08-13-2008, 05:35 PM
Kevin Huntley
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Kevin Huntley
Pittsburgh Steelers — No. --
Defensive end
Date of birth: April 8, 1982 (1982-04-08) (age 26)
Place of birth: Washington, D.C.
Height: 6 ft 7 in (2.01 m) Weight: 270 lb (120 kg)
National Football League debut
2006 for the Oakland Raiders
Career history
College: Kansas State
Undrafted in 2005
Teams:
* Oakland Raiders (2005-2006)
* Atlanta Falcons (2007)
* Washington Redskins (2008)*
* Pittsburgh Steelers (2008-present)
*Offseason and/or practice squad member only
Current status: Active
Career highlights and awards
* No notable achievements
Stats at NFL.com
Kevin Huntley (born April 8, 1982 in Washington, D.C.) is an American football defensive end for the Pittsburgh Steelers of the National Football League. He was signed by the Oakland Raiders as an undrafted free agent in 2005. He played college football at Kansas State.
Huntley has also been a member of the Atlanta Falcons, and Washington Redskins.
[edit] Professional career
Huntley was signed as an undrafted free agent by the Oakland Raiders in 2005. He was released by the Raiders on August 29, 2007. On September 12, 2007 he signed with the Atlanta Falcons but was released October 9. On October 29, 2007 he was signed back to the Falcons practice squad. He signed with the Washington Redskins during the 2008 offseason but was released before playing in any games. On August 12, 2008 he was claimed off waivers by the Pittsburgh Steelers.
[edit] External links
* Oakland Raiders bio
* Atlanta Falcons bio
* Washington Redskins bio
he should be fresh to play.
Before anyone asks, I could only list 6 defensive plays because that is ALL the Skins had in the last 10 minutes.
The Bills announcers were talking about how good their depth was because the backups played so much last season, then the Skins started ripping runs on them right up the gut.
It was sad.
K from Cal
08-13-2008, 06:48 PM
Hey, we can always convert him to LB like so many others before him if he comes in light.
Hey, we can always convert him to LB like so many others before him if he comes in light.
He looked pretty damn big when he was shucking that OT.
markymarc
08-13-2008, 09:54 PM
Well he can't be any worse than Eason or Kirschke. I hope we do continue to watch the waiver wire and give players chances the last couple weeks.
BermudaSteel
08-13-2008, 10:27 PM
...If he can show ANYTHING resembling a pass rush and is able to tackle a runner, IMO, I keep him over some we have.
...McBean is not showing much according to Tomlin and Eason amd Kirtschke are both garbage..
CB beat me to it...
Irv24
08-13-2008, 11:18 PM
A speed bump would be more effective than Nick Eason.
topseed
08-13-2008, 11:59 PM
I would not call a 6'7"-290 pound man light in the pants. He is almost the same size as Max Starks.....
Wow. 6'7" and 290 is almost the same as 6'8" and 337 to you? That's almost fifty pounds, man.
No wonder you would need x-ray vision to tell that Casey is fat.
markymarc
08-14-2008, 08:03 AM
A speed bump would be more effective than Nick Eason.
LOL. Isn't that the truth.
Wow. 6'7" and 290 is almost the same as 6'8" and 337 to you? That's almost fifty pounds, man.
No wonder you would need x-ray vision to tell that Casey is fat.
Well, since Casey has cut the weight to make Tomlin happy, I would guess he is skinny now. Or, is he just less fat.
And, it was reported that Max Starks cut weight this year. So, would you like to go by what we see, what is reported, or what is listed?
So, are we using published weights that place Starks at 337 and Hampton at 325?
Are we going with reported weights that state Hampton is up 40 pounds and Starks is down between 10 and 20 pounds?
What are we using today? Why don't you break out your magic eyeballs and tell me what Starks weighs.
topseed
08-14-2008, 09:48 AM
Well, since Casey has cut the weight to make Tomlin happy, I would guess he is skinny now. Or, is he just less fat.
And, it was reported that Max Starks cut weight this year. So, would you like to go by what we see, what is reported, or what is listed?
So, are we using published weights that place Starks at 337 and Hampton at 325?
Are we going with reported weights that state Hampton is up 40 pounds and Starks is down between 10 and 20 pounds?
What are we using today? Why don't you break out your magic eyeballs and tell me what Starks weighs.
Yeah, I would say "less fat" now applies to Hampton.
I'm not the guy with the magic eyeballs. Only yours could bridge the gap between 290 and 337 as "almost the same."
Yeah, I would say "less fat" now applies to Hampton.
I'm not the guy with the magic eyeballs. Only yours could bridge the gap between 290 and 337 as "almost the same."
WHO IS 337?
Starks stated in an article with the Trib that he had lost 15-20 pounds or so. IF he was 337 (big IF) when that happened, would that not mean he is no longer 337?
Wait, does 337-20=337?
And, I am not the one who stated that could LOOK at a player and tell his weight. Never have.
LetMePlay
08-14-2008, 10:21 AM
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o24/MasterPhoenixCA/Raider%20Nation%20Celebration/DSCN3116.jpg
I think he is #94.
DaSwitz
08-14-2008, 10:37 AM
Don't the Skins have serious depth problems at the DE position? They lost 2 RDE on the first day of practice. It seems weird they let a guy go in a position they need depth if he was any good. It's like use cutting an OL.
I haven't seen the guy play, so maybe he's a better fit for our DL. I'm just saying, it seems weird to me...
topseed
08-14-2008, 12:23 PM
WHO IS 337?
Starks stated in an article with the Trib that he had lost 15-20 pounds or so. IF he was 337 (big IF) when that happened, would that not mean he is no longer 337?
Wait, does 337-20=337?
And, I am not the one who stated that could LOOK at a player and tell his weight. Never have.
Who is 337? Starks is, according to your other argument about Peter King and the "biggest" players he's ever seen. I said there was no way Max should be included. You were using listed weights. Remember?
Now, because it suits your current position, he's lost 20 pounds. OK. Still, does 317=290?
You're right, dude, I give up. Max Starks and Kevin Huntley are the same size, because your magic eyeballs tell you so.
rossi
08-14-2008, 01:48 PM
Who is 337? Starks is, according to your other argument about Peter King and the "biggest" players he's ever seen. I said there was no way Max should be included. You were using listed weights. Remember?
Now, because it suits your current position, he's lost 20 pounds. OK. Still, does 317=290?
You're right, dude, I give up. Max Starks and Kevin Huntley are the same size, because your magic eyeballs tell you so.
Hey if you two can stop pissing on each other for long enough to answer the following I would like your opinions.
Can Huntley be a quality back up 3-4 end? He was tried on both sides of the line so that has to be a plus and he has size but does he have enough skills? Do you believe Eason must be replaced?
Thanks.
Spike
08-14-2008, 02:25 PM
Well he can't be any worse than Eason or Kirschke.
Well, that remains to be seen....but at least they're bringing in players for a look-see.
He was the 275th player taken in the 2005 draft - 33rd choice at DE position
http://www.raiders.com/uploadedImages/Team/Players/Huntley_action1.jpg (http://www.raiders.com/uploadedImages/Team/Players/Huntley_action1.jpg)
slashsteel
08-14-2008, 07:42 PM
Eason did have a sack in the Eagles game. Not that that proved alot..............
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