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THE flafan
10-06-2008, 01:25 PM
not to step on mesa Steelers toes, but I thought this was a good read:


http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=467739


They should start getting used to using this headline in Pittsburgh media all throughout the Steelers' 2008 season: "Big Ben does it again."

To imagine where the Steelers would be this season if someone other than Ben Roethlisberger were their quarterback, it would probably be where the Bengals and the Browns currently reside in the AFC North -- the bottom.

Instead, with him standing tall inside and outside of the pocket no matter how many hits he takes, no matter how many pass rushers fly toward him, the Steelers are alone in first place at 4-1 after a 26-21 victory in Jacksonville.



Roethlisberger came into Sunday night's game having been sacked 15 times in his first four games, most in the AFC. Against a Jaguars defense that had produced only five sacks, he was dropped three more times while under constant duress.

The Steelers' pass protection has had problems with all kinds of pressure through five weeks, and it isn't showing signs of improvement.

Roethlisberger is having all the usual quarterback ailments while absorbing blow after blow, most notably injuries to his shoulder and hand. A quarterback without his amazing level of physical and mental toughness would have packed it in.

Yet Big Ben, all 6-5, 241-plus pounds of him, keeps getting back up to make the necessary plays to win games. He did it last week in the second half and overtime against a relentless Baltimore defense. He did it this week, using his mettle and mobility to foil the Jaguars in the fourth quarter.

With Tom Brady lost for the season and Peyton Manning still regaining rhythm after having offseason knee surgery, we're able to appreciate other great quarterbacks in this league.

Eli Manning, in the same 2004 draft class as Roethlisberger and now with his own Super Bowl ring, appears to have ascended to that level. Drew Brees dazzles no matter to whom he's throwing. But Roethlisberger has dealt with a much higher degree of difficulty. Consider that the younger Manning and Brees have been sacked a combined nine times, and that the Eagles sacked Roethlisberger nine times just two weeks ago in Philadelphia.

The Steelers' offensive line did give Roethlisberger time to throw on some plays against Jacksonville. That's when we got to see his strong arm on display, such as the 48-yard touchdown strike to put Pittsburgh ahead for the first time, 17-14 in the second quarter.

But it's almost prettier when Roethlisberger fights through the contact, sneaks away, extends a play and delivers downfield magic. He did that twice on the Steelers' game-winning touchdown drive on Sunday. No matter how many times you hit Roethlisberger, if he has another down, he's dangerous.

It also helps that his receivers have the same kind of toughness to hang in there. Hines Ward is a prototypical tough wideout, and it's rubbed off on tight end Heath Miller and speedster Santonio Holmes. Roethlisberger and his top receivers are that kind you would expect to play in the Steel City.

The Steelers need to provide Roethlisberger with better protection, but realistically, looking at the injuries and other personnel issues affecting the offense, it will take another offseason of drafting and free-agent hunting to make significant improvements. In other words, they're stuck with a shaky group in front of him for the rest of this season.

The best the Steelers can do can get protection help from their backs and receivers, and also stay committed to running the ball to help wear down opposing pass rushers. Going no-huddle, having him throw out of the shotgun and rolling him out are other ways to reduce the pressure. Expect to some more favorable adjustments when they come out of their Week 6 bye.

After what he has played through in the first five weeks of the season, Roethlisberger deserves a couple weeks off.

BermudaSteel
10-06-2008, 01:39 PM
You're right...excellent read.

Hines57
10-06-2008, 01:46 PM
Would it be wrong to say we have two straight bye weeks?

Sorry had to do that.

Ickster
10-06-2008, 01:49 PM
Where is the part about him just being a game manager that hands off and loses when he throws more than 20 times??? This article didn't originate from Ohio then???

JEFFRO
10-06-2008, 01:52 PM
Great read.

And no, we don't. Division opponents are always tough regardless of the records. The Bengals always play tough against us. So we have one bye week and then it is back to the toughest schedule in the NFL.

Coryea
10-06-2008, 02:01 PM
The Bengals played the Giants and Cowboys real tough, they're going to play us very tough as well.

Hines57
10-06-2008, 02:11 PM
Great read.

And no, we don't. Division opponents are always tough regardless of the records. The Bengals always play tough against us. So we have one bye week and then it is back to the toughest schedule in the NFL.

The Bengals played the Giants and Cowboys real tough, they're going to play us very tough as well.
I know, I know. Those Bungle bitches will be looking to get their goose egg out of the win column.

CAH
10-06-2008, 02:20 PM
The Bengals are far from a pushover. If you think that, you haven't watched their last two games.

LeXX75
10-06-2008, 02:27 PM
rolling him out? I don't think BA has any idea what that means......

TazmanianDevil43
10-06-2008, 04:13 PM
I know guys i'm really surprised by the Bengals the last two games.

I think it's gonna be another slugfest with the Bengals. I hope the Steelers don't overlook them. With our schedule, we can't afford to lose to the Bengals.

Max Power
10-06-2008, 05:37 PM
The Bungles in as much have benefited from teams that were playing down to their level. It can be a fatal mistake as these two teams found out. Because they are better teams they were able to adjust by games end and not fall prey to the buggaboo of losing to a lesser than team.

The Bungles are NOT as tough as they have been made out to be in those two instances.

Hobbster
10-06-2008, 05:41 PM
The Bengals are far from a pushover. If you think that, you haven't watched their last two games.

you mean 2 of their last 3 games, the Giant and the Cowboy games. The Browns game was a joke of who wanted to loose more. for a while it was 6-3 Bengals and i was hoping for a Browns FG with that lasting through OT and have a 6-6 tie, now that would have been funny.

CAH
10-06-2008, 07:58 PM
you mean 2 of their last 3 games, the Giant and the Cowboy games. The Browns game was a joke of who wanted to loose more. for a while it was 6-3 Bengals and i was hoping for a Browns FG with that lasting through OT and have a 6-6 tie, now that would have been funny.

Actually, I was talking about the Giants and Cowboys games.

mesaSteeler
10-06-2008, 09:37 PM
Excellent read thank you for posting it.

"not to step on mesa Steelers toes, but I thought this was a good read:" - No worries here, It's all good. Anyway as a Civil Engineer I spend a fair amount of time on construction sites so I have steel toe boots.