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60 MINUTES
10-09-2008, 11:04 AM
League fines Ward 5 grand for hit in ravens game. They are not talking about the hit on Ed Reed are they? That didn't look dirty to me.


anyone have anymore infor on it?

drew in gi
10-09-2008, 11:09 AM
i didn't see this...

60 MINUTES
10-09-2008, 11:15 AM
Its running on the bottom line now on ESPN and NFL network had it as well.

Coryea
10-09-2008, 11:24 AM
This is what I found:

http://rototimes.com/nfl/news.php?tqid=2519&nid=46670

Ward fined
Hines Ward has been fined $5,000 for what the NFL described as "unnecessary roughness" for his play against Baltimore September 29, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. He is unsure what play he was docked for as he never drew a penalty in the game. He said, "That's what's so crazy about it. How do you not get penalized but you get a fine?
Our View: He noted that he probably won't appeal the fine. He is among the best blocking receivers in the league, and perhaps he was fined by being too aggressive.

Steel Conviction
10-09-2008, 11:28 AM
Meanwhile, guys can tee off on our QB after the play and there is neither a penalty nor fine issued. Sweet.

60 MINUTES
10-09-2008, 11:37 AM
This is what I found:

http://rototimes.com/nfl/news.php?tqid=2519&nid=46670

Ward fined
Hines Ward has been fined $5,000 for what the NFL described as "unnecessary roughness" for his play against Baltimore September 29, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. He is unsure what play he was docked for as he never drew a penalty in the game. He said, "That's what's so crazy about it. How do you not get penalized but you get a fine?
Our View: He noted that he probably won't appeal the fine. He is among the best blocking receivers in the league, and perhaps he was fined by being too aggressive.




Holy shit are you telling me a football player got fined for being to aggressive, what the fuck? I swear someone has got to put a stop to some of this horse shit before they make the guys put on flags. What in the hell

drew in gi
10-09-2008, 11:38 AM
put the DB's in skirts i say... or tutus.

Smooth Criminal
10-09-2008, 11:40 AM
Just because all the other receivers in the leauge are pussies that arn't willing to block it doesn't make what Hines does illegal or dirty, it makes him better.

Iron Maiden
10-09-2008, 12:35 PM
It's only 5 grand. Hines should hit them twice as hard next time. fuck that.

Hines57
10-09-2008, 12:43 PM
I don't remember any play sticking out where Hines nailed Corey Ivy. Either way, its worth $5K to fuck up a Ratbird

http://post-gazette.com/pg/08283/918588-66.stm

Steelers Notebook: Harrison, Ward hit with fines
Thursday, October 09, 2008
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Linebacker James Harrison was not the only Steelers player fined recently. Hines Ward was hit with one, too.


Ward received notice from the NFL that his pay will be docked $5,000 for what the league described as "unnecessary roughness" for his play against Baltimore Sept. 29 in Heinz Field.


What play, Ward wanted to know, because he never drew a penalty.


"That's what's so crazy about it," the Steelers' leading receiver said yesterday. "How do you not get penalized but you get a fine?


"It was on [cornerback] Corey Ivy, I think. I don't know. All I saw was the letter, $5,000 for unnecessary roughness."


Ward, regarded widely as the most vicious blocking wide receiver in the NFL, said he probably will not appeal the fine.


"What are you going to say, I was too rough?"

Aries1247
10-09-2008, 12:55 PM
Baltimore = Pussies.

Jacksonville = Pussies

Steelerman
10-09-2008, 12:56 PM
The NFL is turning into a big pussy league.

Coryea
10-09-2008, 01:12 PM
I'd like to see the hit in question.

cutty
10-09-2008, 01:15 PM
If you know you are going to get fined, take the mother fucker's head off next time, that is my philosophy.

Booted
10-09-2008, 01:16 PM
Meanwhile I keep thinking about the hit Shaun Rogers put on Ben and no flag, no fine, nothing. No rhyme or reason to the way they call these penalties.

Coryea
10-09-2008, 01:18 PM
Meanwhile I keep thinking about the hit Shaun Rogers put on Ben and no flag, no fine, nothing. No rhyme or reason to the way they call these penalties.

Fuck yeah, the ball was long gone and Rogers hit Ben right in the shoulder, can't remember for sure, but it looked like he put his helmet on his shoulder, even after one of their players said during the week leading up that they'd take a fine if they had to.

Jer
10-09-2008, 01:21 PM
I'm writing to the NFL Office about this horse****. You can too. Email to:

roger.goodell2@nfl.net

Milkman Dan
10-09-2008, 01:27 PM
I'm writing to the NFL Office about this horse****. You can too. Email to:

roger.goodell2@nfl.net


Please mention the Shawn Rogers hit on Ben.

Coryea
10-09-2008, 01:30 PM
Also, how in the hell can you fine Ward a week and 3 days after the fucking game?

bearcatsno69
10-09-2008, 01:33 PM
Also, how in the hell can you fine Ward a week and 3 days after the fucking game?

They were still busy reviewing Hocules tape.

Milkman Dan
10-09-2008, 01:34 PM
Also, how in the hell can you fine Ward a week and 3 days after the fucking game?

That is silly, but it opens the door for them to go back and fine Rogers.

Hobbster
10-09-2008, 01:54 PM
Also, how in the hell can you fine Ward a week and 3 days after the ****ing game?


That's because the league doesn't review it if it is not a penalty, they only review plays submitted by the teams themselves if they are not a penaly.
What does this mean?

Baltimore cried to the League and the League responded with a fine. So much for Baltimore having tough players on defense when they cry about a WR being too rough for them.

Jer
10-09-2008, 02:14 PM
Here is what I wrote....

Mr. Goodell,

I have just received news that Pittsburgh Steeler's wideout Hines Ward has been fined for a hit that occured during the Baltimore Ravens game. The letter specifies the fine was issued for uneccesary roughness, but never identified which hit the fine was for. Furthermore, there was no penalty called during the game by the very officials that you trust to keep the integrity of the game intact as well as overseeing the safety of all players on the field. If fines are being levied against players without the necessity of a personal foul penalty, then why wasn't a fine issued to the Philadelphia Eagles' Shaun Rogers when he clearly hit Ben Roethelisberger's dislocated shoulder after he had released the ball? Rogers took at least a step and a half after Ben threw the football and laid him out on the field. The press released statments from the Eagle's players who stated that they would try to take out Roethelisberger even if it meant a fine. The Pittsburgh Steeler's sent the tape to the league for review and nothing was done about it.

There needs to be consistancy in terms of the fines levied against players, as well as consistant officiating during the games. The integrity of the game, and the league as a whole, is being questioned by the media and it's fans every week. It is my expectation that you ensure that the league is fair and just in it's decisions and rulings. Penalizing a wide reciever for being "too rough" in a violent sport such as football is completely idiotic and was undeserved. Especially when you ignore a defensive tackle trying to take a quarterback out of the game with a cheap hit.

Best Regards,

G. W. Lamb

Coryea
10-09-2008, 02:19 PM
Nice letter, but Rogers plays for the Browns.

Jer
10-09-2008, 02:40 PM
Nice letter, but Rogers plays for the Browns.

Ah shit....Fucking talking about the Eagles at work and the shit stuck in my head...I can't believe I did that.

Achie D
10-09-2008, 02:49 PM
I'm starting to get confused. Are they SUPPOSED to be playing football?

aSteelerFanDamnit
10-09-2008, 02:51 PM
Can you imagine Jack Lambert, Mean Joe Greene, Ernie Holmes or any of the 70s Steelers playing in today's "kid gloves" NFL? They'd be fined several times a possession!

markymarc
10-09-2008, 03:05 PM
More B.S. from the NFL. Unbelievable. And yet Rogers was never fined for an obvious late hit on Ben. This NFL is so damn inconsistent it's ridiculous. Get more consistent and then you wouldn't have so many fans questioning the officials and NFL office for silly fines.

paperclip
10-09-2008, 03:08 PM
Here is what I wrote....

Mr. Goodell,

I have just received news that Pittsburgh Steeler's wideout Hines Ward has been fined for a hit that occured during the Baltimore Ravens game. The letter specifies the fine was issued for uneccesary roughness, but never identified which hit the fine was for. Furthermore, there was no penalty called during the game by the very officials that you trust to keep the integrity of the game intact as well as overseeing the safety of all players on the field. If fines are being levied against players without the necessity of a personal foul penalty, then why wasn't a fine issued to the Philadelphia Eagles' Shaun Rogers when he clearly hit Ben Roethelisberger's dislocated shoulder after he had released the ball? Rogers took at least a step and a half after Ben threw the football and laid him out on the field. The press released statments from the Eagle's players who stated that they would try to take out Roethelisberger even if it meant a fine. The Pittsburgh Steeler's sent the tape to the league for review and nothing was done about it.

There needs to be consistancy in terms of the fines levied against players, as well as consistant officiating during the games. The integrity of the game, and the league as a whole, is being questioned by the media and it's fans every week. It is my expectation that you ensure that the league is fair and just in it's decisions and rulings. Penalizing a wide reciever for being "too rough" in a violent sport such as football is completely idiotic and was undeserved. Especially when you ignore a defensive tackle trying to take a quarterback out of the game with a cheap hit.

Best Regards,

G. W. Lamb


nice letter, but "idiotic" and "best regards" shouldn't have been so close together. :D

Jer
10-09-2008, 03:37 PM
I thought Best Regards sounded a little better than "Fuck Off"

MT~Forged
10-09-2008, 03:39 PM
Jer - I "Borrowed" youe letter, hope you don't mind.

Andymisiu
10-09-2008, 03:55 PM
This is bullshit! the NFL really needs to think about what it's doing with these penalties. I just don't understand why there getting so gay. I mean, yes, some of these hits have really hurt some guys and they do need to deter certain things like head to head hits and low leg hit's on quarterbacks but....... come on. let the guys play.

aSteelerFanDamnit
10-09-2008, 03:58 PM
G. W. Lamb
Am I the only one that gets a giggle over the fact that Jer's, aka "badcat's", last name is "Lamb" (as in ... "as gentle as a?"). :D

BermudaSteel
10-09-2008, 04:12 PM
Meanwhile, guys can tee off on our QB after the play and there is neither a penalty nor fine issued. Sweet.

Shut yo mouth, boy!!! You gonna git a fine too!!

Hines57
10-09-2008, 04:31 PM
Ah shit....fucking talking about the Eagles at work and the shit stuck in my head...I can't believe I did that.
Goodell is going to nail you for misconduct.

esteban13
10-09-2008, 04:47 PM
The NFL is turning into the NBA, less physical play, more boredom because of a greater focus on the finesse style of play. Notice the NBA is unwatchable now. Football is a brutal game played by large, angry men. Since Goodell took over for Tagliabue, there has been more and more of this kind of ticky tac penalization of players who still play the game the way it should be. These guys SHOULD be hitting each other; I am not advocating that these guys kill each other, but if you want finesse and no hitting, the NFL will turn into Arena League Football, which is like watching high speed soccer with no goalie.

BigSteelThrill
10-09-2008, 05:33 PM
Here is what I wrote....

Mr. Goodell,

I have just received news that Pittsburgh Steeler's wideout Hines Ward has been fined for a hit that occured during the Baltimore Ravens game. The letter specifies the fine was issued for uneccesary roughness, but never identified which hit the fine was for. Furthermore, there was no penalty called during the game by the very officials that you trust to keep the integrity of the game intact as well as overseeing the safety of all players on the field. If fines are being levied against players without the necessity of a personal foul penalty, then why wasn't a fine issued to the Philadelphia Eagles' Shaun Rogers when he clearly hit Ben Roethelisberger's dislocated shoulder after he had released the ball? Rogers took at least a step and a half after Ben threw the football and laid him out on the field. The press released statments from the Eagle's players who stated that they would try to take out Roethelisberger even if it meant a fine. The Pittsburgh Steeler's sent the tape to the league for review and nothing was done about it.

There needs to be consistancy in terms of the fines levied against players, as well as consistant officiating during the games. The integrity of the game, and the league as a whole, is being questioned by the media and it's fans every week. It is my expectation that you ensure that the league is fair and just in it's decisions and rulings. Penalizing a wide reciever for being "too rough" in a violent sport such as football is completely idiotic and was undeserved. Especially when you ignore a defensive tackle trying to take a quarterback out of the game with a cheap hit.

Best Regards,


G. W. Lamb


wtf??? :D


http://www.nfl.com/players/shaunrogers/profile?id=ROG535048

mightyguru
10-09-2008, 07:27 PM
Even the jag fan next to me was bemoaning the bs roughing call on Harrison. He shook his head and said "I don't believe it but I'll take it".

Steelerman
10-09-2008, 09:21 PM
Well gee wiz....yet ANOTHER Steeler fined:

Steelers' Clark fined for helmet hit
Thursday, October 09, 2008
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Steelers safety Ryan Clark was fined $7,500 this week by the NFL for a helmet-to-helmet hit on Jacksonville receiver Matt Jones Sunday, Clark told ESPN 1250 on a radio talk show this afternoon.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/08283/918798-100.stm

Chicoman
10-10-2008, 12:22 AM
Here is my letter to Mr. Goodell....

Dear Mr. Goodell,
YOU ARE THE WORST FUCKING COMMISH IN NFL HISTORY!!! FUCK YOU AND YOUR NUTHUGGING WITH BELLICHEAT AND THE WHOLE SPYGATE SCANDAL THAT YOU COVERED UP BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO LOOSE INTERNATIONAL APPEAL WITH FANS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES & THEIR REVENUE TO YOUR LEAGUE! FUCK OFF & DIE!!!

Cheers
Chicoman

SteelrzGirl
10-10-2008, 12:27 AM
Chico's my man.

Goodell is an owned bitch.

steelsnake
10-10-2008, 02:42 AM
Here is my letter to Mr. Goodell....

Dear Mr. Goodell,
YOU ARE THE WORST ****ING COMMISH IN NFL HISTORY!!! **** YOU AND YOUR NUTHUGGING WITH BELLICHEAT AND THE WHOLE SPYGATE SCANDAL THAT YOU COVERED UP BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO LOOSE INTERNATIONAL APPEAL WITH FANS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES & THEIR REVENUE TO YOUR LEAGUE! **** OFF & DIE!!!

Cheers
Chicoman

That should get an immediate response.:rolleyes:

Lmob0621
10-10-2008, 08:13 AM
It is just sad that the NFL can fine a player for something and not even tell him what play it was for... His big hits were mentioned as being great on the broadcast and they were all within the whistle.

Coryea
10-10-2008, 11:21 AM
The Clark hit wasn't even helmet to helmet was it?

thatrain
10-10-2008, 02:18 PM
The Clark hit wasn't even helmet to helmet was it?

No, and I'm not sure the football wasn't still in the air at the time.

GoSteelers
10-10-2008, 02:48 PM
Even the jag fan next to me was bemoaning the bs roughing call on Harrison. He shook his head and said "I don't believe it but I'll take it".

not the asshole jags fan in front of me said, after we saw the replay, we were all yelling the fact that it wasn't a late hit and he turns around and says"the rules state you can't hit the QB after he releases the ball.
but he hit him as he was letting go, and we catch a penalty for that? bad call, i say.
he replies...that's the rules!
i told him to turn around and shut the fuck up!

Jack_Handy
10-10-2008, 02:55 PM
I'd like to see the hit in question.



I had that same skateboard in your picture there, is that from you or the internet?

Jmat
10-10-2008, 05:14 PM
What defensive player wants to admit that he was knocked senseless by a wide receiver?
I never thought I'd see the day when a skill player was fined for being rough on defenses. Not just once but several times now.

How can you be fined for a play when the Refs don't even throw a flag?

Maybe the League ought to take a look at the films showing Ben getting mugged every game if they want to issues fines. I've seen Ben take more than a few cheap hits already this season.

thesteelcity
10-10-2008, 05:22 PM
LOL, the NFL is so back assward, it's sad. The Ravens and Jags are bitches for crying about hits. Sore losers. Ward should sent the NFL 5000 pennies and with a big, red bow tied around it. Total joke. They may be the best league in sports, but are coming off as soft wankers.

tdub88
10-10-2008, 06:00 PM
Well gee wiz....yet ANOTHER Steeler fined:

Steelers' Clark fined for helmet hit
Thursday, October 09, 2008
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Steelers safety Ryan Clark was fined $7,500 this week by the NFL for a helmet-to-helmet hit on Jacksonville receiver Matt Jones Sunday, Clark told ESPN 1250 on a radio talk show this afternoon.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/08283/918798-100.stm

They should just send the league a tape of the hit and a SASE requesting a refund for the postage. No way that was helmet to helmet. But there was one on Santonio(or maybe it was Miller). I bet the Jax player doesn't get fined.

khruuton
10-10-2008, 06:47 PM
Here's my letter. I know I sound like a dork and a raging doof... but whatever. lol

Mr. Goodell, or To Whom It May Concern,

I am writing in response to the fine imposed on Hines Ward of the Pittsburgh Steelers. While I understand the league trying to send a message to it's players for unsportsmanlike conduct, and unnecessary roughness, I have to wonder "on what play" did Mr. Ward receive this infraction for?

I was meaning to write the league about the hit upon the Steelers' Ben Roethlisberger by the Cleveland Browns Shawn Rogers. In light of the Cleveland Browns being very open and forward about their intent to "intentionally" injure Roethlisberger during the game. I'm certain the league is already aware of the comments posted in the local Cleveland and Pittsburgh newspapers, respectively.

I would like to question the motives of a "professional league" when it penalizes it's players with such disparity. When the likes of Linebacker Ray Lewis for the Baltimore Ravens is allowed to taunt players, taunt fans, and carry on during a football game as if he's auditioning for a carnal version of Soul Train.

I would also like to question the motives of a "professional league" when it's on field officials behave in a manner unbefitting an NFL Referee such as in the Pittsburgh Steeler/Jacksonville Jaguar game aired on National Television. The penalizing referee for the Steelers Nate Washington certainly behaved in a manner that deserved an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty being imposed upon himself. Such as was duly noted by NBC's on air announcers, John Madden and Al Michaels.

Although not the size of the NFL, I do run a Christian Flag Football League and I am head of officiating in conjunction with being a founding father of said league. While I only receive dozens of emails from players concerning our activities of the league, I can only imagine the countless complaints the NFL receives world wide in light of it's roots and foundation.

However, the NFL does have the resources to control these disparities. By the simple fact that the NFL employs people to fine players for uniform violations down to the style of shoe that is worn or the length of sock. With this known fact, I am amazed the NFL fines players such as James Harrison and Hines Ward for infractions that simply DID NOT occur. I am left to wonder as well, how a player such as Rodney Harrison is able to play in this same NFL without much attention or alteration to his style of play on the football field. With the common fact being known to all of us reading this email that he is by far the dirtiest player in this day's NFL.

As a lifetime fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers and in the same vein, the NFL, I would like to ask the League to please address it's inability to properly officiate it's games. I am not able to understand why the league is unable to forgive Harrison and Ward for their supposed infractions. One which was never penalized during the game---Ward's, and the other which should have never been penalized during the game---Harrison's.

If this same NFL is capable of burying the entire crime of the New England Patriots' scandal, and the Patrtiots' obvious act of cheating to 3 Super Bowl wins, this same NFL is capable of issuing proper justice upon it's officials in light of their mistakes instead of imposing the infraction upon players that seem to just be in the league's targets for the purpose of being an example.

If this same NFL is capable of turning it's head from the "conflict of interest" that is CBS and the New England Patriot's partnership, this same NFL should be able to determine when a player shouldn't be fined.

Thank you for time in this matter.

Sincerely,
Dennis McGrath

Ickster
10-10-2008, 07:14 PM
Some one please sign their letter to Goddell:

May the seed of your loin be fruitful in the belly of your woman...

Boom Shanka!!

Oh and the hit by clark was not helmet to helmet, He hit him in the shoulder. Unlike the LB that smacked Holmes down by the 10 yard line after he caught a pass.

Steeltime
10-10-2008, 07:29 PM
Oh and the hit by clark was not helmet to helmet, He hit him in the shoulder. Unlike the LB that smacked Holmes down by the 10 yard line after he caught a pass.

Reasoning by the NFL ...

"Holmes caught the ball, so the hit could not have been too bad. Poor Matt Jones, on the other hand, was so scared that he did not even touch the pass. Therefore, penalty and fine!!"

markymarc
10-10-2008, 09:06 PM
Great letter khruuton. You need to let us know if you get a response. Highly unlikely, but could happen. I am sure Goodell has his own full time employee just to go through his email and determine what's important or not. Also, did anyone else see how Adrian Wilson of the Cardinals was fined $25,000 for the hit he put on Trent Edwards of the Bills. The hit wasn't even a helmet to helmet hit and of course he didn't get penalized. Goodell seriously needs to get his shit together.

SteelrzGirl
10-10-2008, 09:44 PM
auditioning for a carnal version of Soul TrainLMFAO

Good letter. Now Im guessing I need to write one two, professional and collected. While they may not be read, if the number of letters received is large, that may be just as impactive.

This league only exists because of the fans and we need to remind them of that shit. If we dont watch, buy tickets, buy jerseys, buy NFL licensed merchandise, opt out for the Lifetime Movie Network, what do they have? Nothing.

StuartSteelerFan
10-10-2008, 11:30 PM
Ward should sent the NFL 5000 pennies

The league will still want the other $4950.