Our run is over

[dasimp01]

It's a good thing we took advantage of our chances twice, because our slide has officially started, and now we're stuck with this fraud of a HC and his chosen POS assistants for a LONG time.

[chasing seven]

Looks like a fraud to me too.

[Madinsomniac]

Id say you guys are panicing pretty quick. Cowher had no offense for his first three years, and frankly had a huge dissapointment on defense when Rod went out in 95. Frankly there is no way Tomlin isnt the coach of this team for the next decade at least, because he has already won more than cowher did early and the rooneys stuck by Cowher through a horrid stretch from 98 to 00.

As soon as Tomlin learns to eliminate coaches that arent functioning properly things will be fine. It took cowher 31/2 years

[Stlrs4Life]

It isn't the coaches, give it up. It's the players that execute. They simply don't care.

[dasimp01]

That's the thing, he is NEVER going to make any changes. I guarantee you right now that not one single assistant will be fired no matter if we get shut out and give up KOR TD's each game for the rest of the year, it doesn't matter. He's too GD arrogant to admit that HE did ANYTHING wrong to the smallest detail. We are wasting our QB's prime years with a POS coaching staff.

[Franco]

Another thread by bandwagon fans

[elfiero]

Id say you guys are panicing pretty quick. Cowher had no offense for his first three years, and frankly had a huge dissapointment on defense when Rod went out in 95. Frankly there is no way Tomlin isnt the coach of this team for the next decade at least, because he has already won more than cowher did early and the rooneys stuck by Cowher through a horrid stretch from 98 to 00.

As soon as Tomlin learns to eliminate coaches that arent functioning properly things will be fine. It took cowher 31/2 years

Exactly, once Tomlin asserts himself the purging can begin. I think Tomlin is a good coach( cheesy but thats not a sin) he just lacks experience and walked into an established situation that he couldn't shake up right away. I think heads will roll at the end of the season if this team underachieves, as in no playoffs.

[Steelerz99]

THis team EVERY game gives up free points. Until that stops, it won't matter what the game plan is.

[VAN58STEELER]

It's a good thing we took advantage of our chances twice, because our slide has officially started, and now we're stuck with this fraud of a HC and his chosen POS assistants for a LONG time.

I hate to say it but this dude is a fraud. I just don't see any coaching from this guy. I really don't. Even when I listen to behind the scenes stuff. It's all platitudes and cliches of the highest order.

[illinois steel]

No offense but you guys are pretty pathetic posting shit like that you can jump off anytime you want we don't need you. Think you might be over reacting just a tad,as for Mike T he won a super bowl last year you spoiled brat. The only fraud I see is you as a fan!

[dasimp01]

Our "window" for championships is what's over. The only difference between Mike Tomlin and Dick Jauron is the players, the man has done no coaching since he got here.

[jasen@cardiostack]

No offense but you guys are pretty pathetic posting shit like that you can jump off anytime you want we don't need you. Think you might be over reacting just a tad,as for Mike T he won a super bowl last year you spoiled brat. The only fraud I see is you as a fan!

barry switzer won the super bowl so what does that mean

[Franco]

Can we have one official, "I need to vent and say stupid shit" thread?

[steel shinin]

You're just making the rounds with dumb ass post today aren't you. Please go cheer for the Bengals. They're leading the division and there's no doubt that that's Marvin Lewis's team. A bunch of go getters over there. Get the fuck outta here.

[dasimp01]

We're not going to beat the Ravens next week, they're now too desperate after today and our team is like a bunch of stoners. WTF would I cheer for the Bengals, besides you still haven't explained to me how great a HC marvelous mike is. FWIW, A true good for nothing fair-weather fan would go cheer for the Colts or Patriots. Has congress come up with a law that you can't be pissed at your favorite team???

[B.A.B.]

LOL. God, Steeler fans. Your bandwagon fans are jumping off already. To you bandwagon kids, theres plenty of room for you to root for the Bengals haha. To the real Steeler fans...see you in January.

[steel shinin]

Being pissed at the Steelers is fine.........but trying to take shit away from them and shit on Tomlin like he's a ballboy is jsut stupid.

[Franco]

LOL. God, Steeler fans. Your bandwagon fans are jumping off already. To you bandwagon kids, theres plenty of room for you to root for the Bengals haha. To the real Steeler fans...see you in January.

Exactly.........

[CoolieMan]

this thread and your other one on the same subject are totally fucking stupid.....yeah..Tomlin did no coaching last season on the Super Bowl run....has the team underperformed...Hell Yes...but to put all the blame on the coach is fucking stupid....

where are my mod powers so I can combine some of these lame ass threads

[CoolieMan]

LOL. God, Steeler fans. Your bandwagon fans are jumping off already. To you bandwagon kids, theres plenty of room for you to root for the Bengals haha. To the real Steeler fans...see you in January.

go fuck yourself

[Ironcitydrinker04]

I won't give up on Tomlin...he had these coaches last year and won a title in spite of them. BUT at some point, you have to recognize that you COULD BE lots better w/o them...including Dick "Time has passed me by and my HOF credentials took a serious hit today" LeBEau. The first news on Tuesday should be the firing of whichever chucklehead is responsible for KO's. No debate. NO DEBATE. If he doesn't do this, he has failed as a coach. And then you start to question his ability.

[CoolieMan]

why is it that 90% of the bashing of the coaches is from posters I have never heard of before?

[scstillerfan]

Oh yeah, we can't criticize the team or coaches, it makes us "bandwagon".

[dasimp01]

Why would I get banned, I'm not the one typing full swearing and cussing nor anything else like that??

[chasing seven]

Tomlin is trying too hard to be like his mentor Dungy. I'm sorry he looks more like a spectator than a coach on gamedays. Until he focuses on the small details i.e. PATHETIC 3 rd and 2 calls in OT. I don't want to hear that was Arias who called that either because MT can shime in at any moment and tell Arians tp run the f/n ball instead of going with the empty sets. He could of chimed in when the Steelers had the ball inside the 10 yard line and he let Arians call 3 straight passing plays tht resulted in an int.

[steelreeling]

This is entirely to do with the team we have become. Mike Tomlin's 09 Steelers have come full circle Bengals circa 2005.

We are the Bungles; face it. Carson Rothlisberger will pass the ball 40+ times a game because he is surrounded by "weapons". When you do that, not only do you tire your defense out, but you do two things which i think are legitimate gifts to an inferior opponent.
1) You ask your 'skill' players to make not just one or two big plays a game, but at the very least 4 big, big plays. If they DON't do that; you lose. and
2) You give the opposition more opportunities to get back into the game by giving them control of BOTH the clock and tempo of the game. Offensively, your opponent may get an extra 4 possessions, but defensively they also get opportunities to gain some momentum by stopping your vaunted offense.

Unless we do something to control the clock with a short passing game, all the games sift out like 2006.

[chasing seven]

This is entirely to do with the team we have become. Mike Tomlin's 09 Steelers have come full circle Bengals circa 2005.

We are the Bungles; face it. Carson Rothlisberger will pass the ball 40+ times a game because he is surrounded by "weapons". When you do that, not only do you tire your defense out, but you do two things which i think are legitimate gifts to an inferior opponent.
1) You ask your 'skill' players to make not just one or two big plays a game, but at the very least 4 big, big plays. If they DON't do that; you lose. and
2) You give the opposition more opportunities to get back into the game by giving them control of BOTH the clock and tempo of the game. Offensively, your opponent may get an extra 4 possessions, but defensively they also get opportunities to gain some momentum by stopping your vaunted offense.

Unless we do something to control the clock with a short passing game, all the games sift out like 2006.

exactly.. why does Arians constantly go with deep routes when he knows Big Ben is getting killed by blitzes every down.

[Ghost of Frenchy Fuqua]

I'll chime in:

Stupid thread.

[CoolieMan]

Read his post again. I think you misunderstood.

no..I understood completely...I just hate bungle fans.....no matter what their opinion is

[SteelerFan448]

This is entirely to do with the team we have become. Mike Tomlin's 09 Steelers have come full circle Bengals circa 2005.

We are the Bungles; face it. Carson Rothlisberger will pass the ball 40+ times a game because he is surrounded by "weapons". When you do that, not only do you tire your defense out, but you do two things which i think are legitimate gifts to an inferior opponent.
1) You ask your 'skill' players to make not just one or two big plays a game, but at the very least 4 big, big plays. If they DON't do that; you lose. and
2) You give the opposition more opportunities to get back into the game by giving them control of BOTH the clock and tempo of the game. Offensively, your opponent may get an extra 4 possessions, but defensively they also get opportunities to gain some momentum by stopping your vaunted offense.

Unless we do something to control the clock with a short passing game, all the games sift out like 2006.

Our offense dominated the time of possession today, even with 40+ passes. Our skill players made several big plays as well. We lost because of turnovers and penalties.

[Steelers Rule!]

Can we have one official, "I need to vent and say stupid shit" thread?

Umm, have either of them EVER posted anything that wasn't stupid?

[Str8liner]

It isn't the coaches, give it up. It's the players that execute. They simply don't care.

I kinda agree with this statement to a certain extent. The drops, the blown coverages, the fumbles, the lack of fire and determination in these last two games is troubling.

[Easy-E]

Relax, this is a joke. Tomlin just won a super bowl IN HIS SECOND YEAR. I don't give a fuck if it was with Cowher's players, HE STILL WON A SUPER BOWL. Not to mention, we have a franchise qb in the prime of his career. This upsets me almost as much as today's loss.

[FAB802]

This is entirely to do with the team we have become. Mike Tomlin's 09 Steelers have come full circle Bengals circa 2005.

We are the Bungles; face it. Carson Rothlisberger will pass the ball 40+ times a game because he is surrounded by "weapons". When you do that, not only do you tire your defense out, but you do two things which i think are legitimate gifts to an inferior opponent.
1) You ask your 'skill' players to make not just one or two big plays a game, but at the very least 4 big, big plays. If they DON't do that; you lose. and
2) You give the opposition more opportunities to get back into the game by giving them control of BOTH the clock and tempo of the game. Offensively, your opponent may get an extra 4 possessions, but defensively they also get opportunities to gain some momentum by stopping your vaunted offense.

Unless we do something to control the clock with a short passing game, all the games sift out like 2006.

Our poor "tired" defense played twenty two minutes today. That drive they rolled over on in overtime has ZERO to do with offense, or philosophy or anything other than execution. They can also contribute to TOP by getting off the field on third downs. Today was a cluster from top to bottom, but I'm sick of the defense getting a pass when they've played like hot garbage for stretches themselves this season.

[FREAKofSTEEL]

Your a sorry azzz Puzzzzzy. Man up or go to another team !! Phoney ass Fan !!

[FAB802]

Your a sorry azzz Puzzzzzy. Man up or go to another team !! Phoney ass Fan !!

Oooh, a switch teams slam. Aren't you clever?

[steelreeling]

Our poor "tired" defense played twenty two minutes today. That drive they rolled over on in overtime has ZERO to do with offense, or philosophy or anything other than execution. They can also contribute to TOP by getting off the field on third downs. Today was a cluster from top to bottom, but I'm sick of the defense getting a pass when they've played like hot garbage for stretches themselves this season.

First, I think the D played like ass at the end too. no arguments here. But those two things ARE definitely related.

You NEVER could put together a team that played all-star lights out on both sides of the ball at the same time. Has never been done; will NEVER be done. I DONT care who you have in personnel on the O & the D. The Patriots tried it, look how it turned out for them. Moss, Welker, & Brady= one of the greatest trios ever. Moss+Brady+Welker+Bruschi+Vrabel+Samuel= clusterfuck in a LOSS in the SB and a resulting shitty team thenext year with the exact same formula.

I am convinced of the fact that you cannot treat the NFL like baseball cards and simply put all the players with all the right stats and all the right combine numbers into positions on both sides of the ball and think you'll have an automatic winner. if that was true, Dan Synder would have the best team in the league. Accordingly, you cant just light the field on fire with five-wide and throw the goddamned ball 60 times a game and think your good defense is just going to take care of it easily.

It's not that simple.

THIS IS HOW YOU LOSE playing Carson Palmer ball. Ask Carson about it. Throw the goddamned thing enough times and maybe you'll get TOP (like we did today) but you'll get a terrible INT from a tipped ball (we had 2 TOs on those today). Or you'll fire up the other team when they stop your ass the one time in the game on 3rd down (they did that to us in OT and got so excited that their guy scampered 50 yard and change after catching a crossing pattern where Farrior usually sits). We had the ball, we just didnt keep fucking scoring. And that's what you absolutely HAVE to do if you want to win shootouts with a Carson Palmer offense. i don't know, maybe we really could take this to the next level with a greatest show on turf, but i don't see Santonio turning into Isaac Bruce soon (Ward is already there but has definitely lost a step). Our defense is good. Mendy miraculously tackles the pick at like the 5 yard line and the D fucking HOLDS right at that crucial point for a FG. Whoa. Looked like a Cowher D out there. But then, we come out after running it down their F-ing throats all game and start the 4 wide again?!@!

if there's anything we learned this week its that THIS IS HOW YOU LOSE playing Carson Palmer ball.

[cutty]

It's a good thing we took advantage of our chances twice, because our slide has officially started, and now we're stuck with this fraud of a HC and his chosen POS assistants for a LONG time.

Another joke of a fucking thread. All of the so called fans who keep starting these kind of threads, please jump the fuck off of the steeler bandwagon now because the true fans do not need you hogging up anymore room. This team will make the play offs still, watch and see, than it is anyone's game.

[dasimp01]

Here we go again with the "better" fans telling others below them that they should jump off the bandwagon because they're pissed. Tell me cutty, can I see a picture of you're homemade "#1 fan" trophy you keep over your fireplace??? You know, since you're so much better than me, what is the weather like up there in the clouds??? Perfect I presume.

[RoonGang09]

LOL. God, Steeler fans. Your bandwagon fans are jumping off already. To you bandwagon kids, theres plenty of room for you to root for the Bengals haha. To the real Steeler fans...see you in January.

Amen to that!


HERE WE GO STEE---LERS, HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[topseed]

You NEVER could put together a team that played all-star lights out on both sides of the ball at the same time. Has never been done; will NEVER be done. I DONT care who you have in personnel on the O & the D. The Patriots tried it, look how it turned out for them. Moss, Welker, & Brady= one of the greatest trios ever. Moss+Brady+Welker+Bruschi+Vrabel+Samuel= clusterfuck in a LOSS in the SB and a resulting shitty team thenext year with the exact same formula.

So you'd classify going 11-5 with a second-string quarterback as "shitty"?

[Steeler7082]

I'll agree that there are a few that appear not to care - Holmes and Parker to name a couple - but looking at Ben those parting shots of him on the sidelines, the last two games, I can assure you he's not one of them; he hates losing and he showed a tinge of anguish as to the season possibly slipping through his fingers.


It isn't the coaches, give it up. It's the players that execute. They simply don't care.