Any News on Ben? [Archive]

JenZwain

11-22-2009, 10:14 PM

Statistically we looked good on paper, but a few very big plays cost us this game.

Bad play calling, imagine that. Bad execution inside the red zone, i'm used to it by now with Ben. And, poor job managing the game, again!

I hope Ben is OK..but he sure is dumb to be diving head first, and it's not the first time he's done it. He went right back to the average QB he was in years past where he was in a position to score and a play resulted in a TD or big run back INT for the other team.

dasimp01

11-22-2009, 10:14 PM

VAN58STEELER

11-22-2009, 10:20 PM

If he has ANY indication of a concussion to the SMALLEST degree, he sits next week, end of story. If that means our season, so be it, he is more important than one season. It's also time that they reign him in, he's not going to last us much longer at the rate he's going.

He's concussed all right. I suspect he was playing through one as well. He hasn't been seeing the field very well. Time to sit him and get him some rest and help. Get this legal bullshit out of the way and call it a year. This team and coaching staff are incapable of seeing what they are doing wrong.

Thorndike

11-22-2009, 10:25 PM

chasing seven

11-22-2009, 10:26 PM

We need to go back to smash mouth. Holmes is gonna command more money anyways and he will walk. Throwing the ball 30+ times a game is not out syle. We got the qb for it but we don't have the line and good OC to be the Colts.

JenZwain

11-22-2009, 10:29 PM

How can a QB look so good one play and make such stupid decisions the next play?

dasimp01

11-22-2009, 10:33 PM

Because the coaches LET him do it. No, we don't have to go back and play offense like we have Bettis, we need to get a REAL OC that strives for balance and has knowledge of a REAL passing game to coach Ben to do crap RIGHT and not screw around. And one is coming available very soon.

Aged Steel

11-22-2009, 10:38 PM

Jesus, people! Go change your tampons and have a cup of herbal tea or some shit.

We have injuries all over the field and aren't the best team in the league right now. So? Show a little class and give the Chefs some credit for not hanging their heads when they were down. Nice job by them.

Now, let's get ready for next week. The Rats are next up. Let's hurt somebody.

Oh, and...Ben has a head.

You just don't get it do you? This team is average and has been exposed. Injuries? Oh paleeeze! Just shut up. Let me repeat this for you because you seem to be in denial. This team is average and has no depth. They will hurt no one... Wasn't that clear to you the past 2 games?? They are an underachieving team with no identity and a clueless OC. Some major changes need to be made before they can hurt anyone. Now go back to smoking whatever you are smoking and have an herbal tea while you are at it. Go take out the trash and go buy some tampons for your girl. When you come back have her explain football to you...

Tibs

11-22-2009, 10:43 PM

Aged Steel, losing sure brings out that negative disposition, how 'bout that?

Wasn't that clear to you the past 2 games?? ..Exactly. Two games & you've called it a season...

MillerTime83

11-22-2009, 10:46 PM

You just don't get it do you? This team is average and has been exposed. Injuries? Oh paleeeze! Just shut up. Let me repeat this for you because you seem to be in denial. This team is average and has no depth. They will hurt no one... Wasn't that clear to you the past 2 games?? They are an underachieving team with no identity and a clueless OC. Some major changes need to be made before they can hurt anyone. Now go back to smoking whatever you are smoking and have an herbal tea while you are at it. Go take out the trash and go buy some tampons for your girl. When you come back have her explain football to you...

Jesus Christ... This loss was brutal, and it's hard to defend their play but settle down a bit. This is essentially the team that won a Super Bowl not that long ago. To think the season is over is just ludicrous at this point.

Tibs

11-22-2009, 10:49 PM

Back to the topic, I hope Ben is ok. This team needs a gut check, and a gut check w/o Polamalu & Ben is not gonna be pretty...

dasimp01

11-22-2009, 10:49 PM

They are NOT even close to resembling the team last year, they at least put some people away last year. Now, every GD week they just give other teams the game.

JenZwain

11-22-2009, 10:50 PM

CAH

11-22-2009, 10:50 PM

scrapdog

11-22-2009, 11:06 PM

Roethlisberger appears okay after game

Sunday, November 22, 2009
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who left today's game in overtime after taking a blow to the head, appeared to be lucid in the Steelers locker room after their 27-24 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs.

"Needless to say, it was a concussion-oriented thing, so I doubt he was going to come back into the football game,'' coach Mike Tomlin said.

However, Roethlisberger told the Post-Gazette as he pulled on his dress suit in the locker room that while he did not know if he received a concussion or not, he felt okay.

Roethlisberger left the game with 12:21 remaining in overtime after he scrambled and was sacked near midfield. Linebacker Derrick Johnson's knee inadvertently hit Roethlisberger in the head as the quarterback hit the ground.

Charlie Batch entered the game at that point, the first time the veteran backup has taken a snap since the 2007 season.

Starting left guard Chris Kemoeatu also left the game with a sprained MCL in his right knee. A similar injury kept safety Troy Polamalu sidelined for four games but offensive lineman normally can return more quickly because of the nature of the position. However, Kemoeatu is still likely to miss a couple of games with the injury.

For more on the Steelers, read the new blog, Ed Bouchette On the Steelers at www.post-gazette.com/plus. Ed Bouchette can be reached at ebouchette@post-gazette.com.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09326/1015593-100.stm#ixzz0XdIaMjKm

scrapdog

11-22-2009, 11:07 PM

"Needless to say, it was a concussion-oriented thing, so I doubt he was going to come back into the football game,'' coach Mike Tomlin said.

oh brother

CAH

11-22-2009, 11:13 PM

yes there is. Upper right hand corner of his post. The down arrow next to the post number.

...and how would anyone know who gave them karma?

Str8liner

11-22-2009, 11:14 PM

If Ben is even slightly questionable he better set out next week.

The only time the Ravens wont be blitzing is on the jog into the locker room at the half....

And they might blitz us then too.

Aged Steel

11-22-2009, 11:16 PM

Jesus Christ... This loss was brutal, and it's hard to defend their play but settle down a bit. This is essentially the team that won a Super Bowl not that long ago. To think the season is over is just ludicrous at this point.

You see that is the whole point! This is the Superbowl champs and they seem to have been exposed. The season is a whisker from being over. That is the cold hard reality. If you can't beat mediocre and bad teams as the defending champs, what does that say? I love this team and probably have been watching them many more years than you have. Since '69 actually. I have seen it all. This team is curently on life support and doesn't seem to be focused like they are the defending champions.... I don't see an identity with this team. Hey it's just a game...

Tibs

11-22-2009, 11:17 PM

...and how would anyone know who gave them karma?
They'll never know, will remain forever curious to wtf was that from?

Tibs

11-22-2009, 11:21 PM

This team is curently on life support ...Sorry Aged Steel, but I don't see it, just yet. I sit here and still can't believe we just lost to the Chiefs. Unbelievable & unacceptable... but there's still an opportunity to be had this year, not ready to throw the towel in, sounds like you've reached that point already.

CAH

11-22-2009, 11:25 PM

They'll never know, will remain forever curious to wtf was that from?
Sounds like a great way to drive someone nuts.

MillerTime83

11-22-2009, 11:25 PM

You see that is the whole point! This is the Superbowl champs and they seem to have been exposed. The season is a whisker from being over. That is the cold hard reality. If you can't beat mediocre and bad teams as the defending champs, what does that say? I love this team and probably have been watching them many more years than you have. Since '69 actually. I have seen it all. This team is curently on life support and doesn't seem to be focused like they are the defending champions.... I don't see an identity with this team. Hey it's just a game...

The season was a whisker from being over in 2005, remember that?

JenZwain

11-22-2009, 11:30 PM

I think Ben has been concussed for a few weeks now to be honest. He just has seemed off, and his decision making has gotten worse each week.

Who knows..but I hope he gets checked out. He's our QB and this team depends on him.

FREAKofSTEEL

11-22-2009, 11:34 PM

I tend to agree with the More important than One season. But Reign him in ?? He IS what he IS brother... if you Reign him in he is NO Longer Big Ben... We have to live with the Fact that Ben will do what Ben does. And Its what makes him GREAT also what makes us pull our Hair out ( Think Terry Bradshaw...but Better) like it or not thats the way it is !

Tibs

11-22-2009, 11:35 PM

Sounds like a great way to drive someone nuts.Dave & Co. know what they're doing The intent is to try to drive you mad.

Aged Steel

11-22-2009, 11:46 PM

The season was a whisker from being over in 2005, remember that?

No doubt about it... I hope history repeats. I am just really concerned that this team has to many deficiencies to overcome. So far I think that has been the case. Can they find the magic again with these coaches and the current roster? This defense has not been great this year and doesn't know how to put away a team. The offense has also been spotty. Not the way to go into December....

omar10213245

11-22-2009, 11:47 PM

He's concussed all right. I suspect he was playing through one as well. He hasn't been seeing the field very well. Time to sit him and get him some rest and help. Get this legal bullshit out of the way and call it a year. This team and coaching staff are incapable of seeing what they are doing wrong.

are you shitting me? call it a fucking year?? get the fuck out of here! its a concussion, the season isn't over yet, he'll BE BACK.

far51

11-23-2009, 12:08 AM

3 and short arians is deformed retarded, kept ben in the gun 5 step drop , after the 1st few times it was easy to see they were gonna bring 6 or 7 soi why not a hb or wr screen? remember those in 05?
I didnt like the last call a toss on 3-3, if we just wanted to run should ran a delay, mendy would of fought for extra yds ands maybe we would of picked up the 1st down or attempted what would have been a 54 yd FG.

FREAKofSTEEL

11-23-2009, 12:23 AM

Well EVERY TIME we get to the 10 or in ..we RUN on 1st down. The Defense is IN our backfield.then its 2nd and 3rd and long ..no guessing what we gotta do then ( next thing you know Ben Picked in the endzone) I KNOW we won a SB with Ariens ...but we have way to many weapons to live like we do on offense. Its very sad to watch at times. Anyone wanna tell me why I am wrong ... I am listening .

Steel 36 Bus

11-23-2009, 12:25 AM

I bet the BUNGLE FANS are B'ing and moaning right now also, get over this whole we lost to the worst team in football BS, this is the nfl right now, any team can get beat!!!!!

****ARIANS

11-23-2009, 12:29 AM

I'm so tired of hearing about how we are a smashmouth football team... NO WE FUCKING AREN"T.. We shouldn't be a Pass happy team either though. We should be balanced but our OC is the biggest dumb fucking arrogant Ass Hole in the league

****ARIANS

11-23-2009, 12:30 AM

I bet the BUNGLE FANS are B'ing and moaning right now also, get over this whole we lost to the worst team in football BS, this is the nfl right now, any team can get beat!!!!!

I realize any team can get beat but c'mon... Did you see how we played?

TDX27

11-23-2009, 12:32 AM

The Ratbirds are gonna kick our asses. Based on the last two weeks, I see no way we win next week. I sure hope I am wrong but we have definitely gotten worse the past two weeks.

Steeltime

11-23-2009, 12:35 AM

The season was a whisker from being over in 2005, remember that?

Of course I do ... but here is the incredibly huge difference.

In 2005, Ben went down for 4 games. Batch comes in and goes 2-0. Tommy Maddox stinks up the joint, going 0-2. Ben comes back from the injury and struggles in the first game, losing to the Bungles. Steelers are then 7-5, but had their QB back, and shaking the rust off.

This year, the problems are not related to Ben being out. Quite the opposite ... the concern now is that Ben may miss time. This season is not going to turn around when Ben gets back on the field after being out 4 games.

VAN58STEELER

11-23-2009, 12:38 AM

The season was a whisker from being over in 2005, remember that?

Back then they had one of the greatest motivators of all time as an HC. Right now, they have a YMCA administrator as an HC. See the difference?

Thorndike

11-23-2009, 01:10 AM

Aged Steel forgot his meds again.

PJSkiboy

11-23-2009, 01:39 AM

All the chicken little "the sky is falling" talk is the sh!t i expect on the bengals' forums.

blackandgold4ever

11-23-2009, 01:44 AM

The bottom line is this team sucks right now. They have to regroup asap and show us what kind of football team they really can be. They are the defending Super Bowl Champs right? Then let's start playin like it.

Punxsutawney

11-23-2009, 01:48 AM

I think Ben has been concussed for a few weeks now to be honest. He just has seemed off, and his decision making has gotten worse each week.

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I don't know. I thought Ben played extremely well today. I do not know how much of the INT in the endzone was his fault, as the ball was tipped and came out flat right to the defender. It sure looked like Ward was open in the corner of the endzone and if the ball would have came out with more arch, it probably would have been a TD

dasimp01

11-23-2009, 01:51 AM

The end-zone pick was the blockings fault, they blew it, as usual, and let the rushers get through too easily, especially Foster.

Steel 36 Bus

11-23-2009, 01:54 AM

I don't know. I thought Ben played extremely well today. I do not know how much of the INT in the endzone was his fault, as the ball was tipped and came out flat right to the defender. It sure looked like Ward was open in the corner of the endzone and if the ball would have came out with more arch, it probably would have been a TD

Ben was hit by hali, and was the reason for the pick, other than the pick and KO return the Steelers played a pretty good game, now I will get BLOWN A BUSH OF BS by the so called REAL FANS, because they can really see what kind of team we have LOL!!!!

omar10213245

11-23-2009, 02:57 AM

sometimes i wonder how many posters on this site take medication for bipolar disorder.

Steeler B

11-23-2009, 05:48 AM

some good news for a change:

from rotoworld:

A league source tells Profootballtalk.com that the early signs for Ben Roethlisberger (concussion) are "encouraging."
Roethlisberger was cleared to make the team flight home to Pittsburgh, remembers everything that happened on Sunday, and isn't dealing with any nausea. Big Ben was knocked out of the game in overtime on a hit by Chiefs LB Derrick Johnson. The Steelers play the Ravens in Week 12. PFT's source says "it'll take a lot" for Roethlisberger to sit out the intradivision matchup. Nov. 22 - 11:50 pm et

Steeler7082

11-23-2009, 06:17 AM

I concur, Ben's health is way more important than the next game - I was saying this just after the incident - and I think we have a very capable back-up to sub for him but even if we didn't...you keep Ben out the next game; I really doubt this will happen though.

If Ben is even slightly questionable he better set out next week.

The only time the Ravens wont be blitzing is on the jog into the locker room at the half....

And they might blitz us then too.

punxsutawneyphil

11-23-2009, 07:30 AM

You just don't get it do you? This team is average and has been exposed. Injuries? Oh paleeeze! Just shut up. Let me repeat this for you because you seem to be in denial. This team is average and has no depth. They will hurt no one... Wasn't that clear to you the past 2 games?? They are an underachieving team with no identity and a clueless OC. Some major changes need to be made before they can hurt anyone. Now go back to smoking whatever you are smoking and have an herbal tea while you are at it. Go take out the trash and go buy some tampons for your girl. When you come back have her explain football to you...

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You seem to be very creative in your put-downs which is entertaining i suppose, but i must admit i do question your logic and basic comprehension skills.

Let me ask you this, in all seriousness... Do you think last year's team was average?

If your answer is "no" then there is hope for you.

If your answer is "yes" i guess there's nothing any of us can do to help you.

insaniti

11-23-2009, 09:49 AM

As long as this team continues to find new ways to gift wrap points and hand deliver them to the other team each week, we are in trouble.

Ben is back to making bad decisions again. Arians has become so predictable you can call a play before they set on on the LOS, and our head coach seems to have lost control.

I think Ben has been concussed for a few weeks now to be honest. He just has seemed off, and his decision making has gotten worse each week.

Who knows..but I hope he gets checked out. He's our QB and this team depends on him.

Denver's stat line - 21-29 for 233 yards, 3 td's, 1 int.
Cincy's stat line - 20-40 for 174 yards, 0 td's, 1 int.
KC's stat line - 32-42 for 398 yards, 3 td's, 2 ints

I see ONE bad game from Ben in there. Ben played lights out today, Miller tips one to the defender, and Ben gets hit on the other and he had a bad game and isn't seeing the field? he made great throws all day long, hitting receviers in stride, finding the open man over the middle, checking it down. are you upset because Sweed didn't get in the past two weeks?

Back then they had one of the greatest motivators of all time as an HC. Right now, they have a YMCA administrator as an HC. See the difference?

yes, because last year shows us that Tomlin did nothing at all to motivate this team and keep them going despite the most difficult schedule in the NFL, a barrage of injuries, lack of running game, and inconsistant offense in general. that "one of the greatest motivators of all time" had games like yesterday happen quite often actually. one of the most notorious would be THE Raiders game, closely followed by THE Texans game. I guess when it takes you 13 years to win a SB you get a pass, but when you win one in your second year you skip the pass and get shit on directly.

sometimes i wonder how many posters on this site take medication for bipolar disorder.

I would be shocked if the number was under 75%

jasen@cardiostack

11-23-2009, 11:48 AM

I don't know. I thought Ben played extremely well today. I do not know how much of the INT in the endzone was his fault, as the ball was tipped and came out flat right to the defender. It sure looked like Ward was open in the corner of the endzone and if the ball would have came out with more arch, it probably would have been a TD
ben did play good. its funny people are blaming him but you hear no mention of how poor the o line was today. he avoided a bunch of sacks this loss was not his fault. jen retardzwain is blaming him then will tell you sweed will be a big player for us in the next sentence. brilliant

Coryea

11-23-2009, 02:36 PM

WOW, I don't think it matters what Ben's health is, most seem to think he's not playing that well anyways. Neither INT was his fault yesterday, and he saved the Olines ass at least 3 times when he some how got away from sure sacks.

Spike

11-23-2009, 02:43 PM

The bad part of the play he got hurt on is Ben had Mendenhall wide open 5 yds in front of him he could have flipped the ball to and he ran instead. I was screaming for him to stop and throw - he's wide open!!!!!

No - Ben thinks he's Tebow now.

Coryea

11-23-2009, 02:50 PM

Yeah, if he had the TV angle playing in his helmet he would've saw that too.

Spike

11-23-2009, 03:18 PM

I dont know how anyone blames Ben.

It's not all on him but he's not blameless either.
He's the field general - it's his offense. He has input, he's not a robot blindly calling plays.
Why didn't Ben audible more often to the run? He's able to look over the defense and adjust his calls at the LOS, right?

Spike

11-23-2009, 03:37 PM

Agreed. But the last two weeks start at the top.

That too, but you can't blame JUST the coaching.

It's like an 8 year old that flunks a math test and blames his mommy for not preparing him right.
boo-hoo

At some point the players have to take responsiblility too.

Harrison92

11-23-2009, 10:21 PM

Ben was hit by hali, and was the reason for the pick, other than the pick and KO return the Steelers played a pretty good game, now I will get BLOWN A BUSH OF BS by the so called REAL FANS, because they can really see what kind of team we have LOL!!!!

Ben was not at fault for either pick. The usually sure handed Heath missed one, and he was hit on the other throw, forcing it to come up short.

People should give themselves a day to calm down before posting irrational threads (we suck, team is done, fire tomlin, etc.). . .The loss sucks because Cincy lost and we could have made up that game on them. THAT is what pisses me off the most. What burns my ass more than anything else, week afeter week, are the dropped INT's by our secondary (troy notwithstanding).

moetec

11-23-2009, 10:28 PM

The end-zone pick was the blockings fault, they blew it, as usual, and let the rushers get through too easily, especially Foster.

that was not the blockers fault. i saw what BB was going to do before the play started and saw that he was going to run to the bottom and throw or run it in. the way the coverage was he should have ran the ball in. he had a blocker in front of him. he could have atleast got it to the 3 or 2nd yardline. he had QB runs on alot of plays. he needs to take them sometimes.