Pro Bowlers announced tomorrow

[In Ben We Trust]

How many Steelers do you think go to Hawaii? I would say Ben is a lock...it should be him, Brady, and Manning. Ben has 29 td's, 11 picks, and plays behind the worst or very close to the worst o-line in the league. After that I think Willie runs the best chance and then Hampton, Harrison, and Reed. I think we will have 3 players when all is said and done....Ben, Willie, Casey. Anyone see it differently?

[Southern Steeler]

Don't be surprised if Anderson goes ahead of Ben.

[Vader]

I don't think Mahan will make it this year.

[Steelr4evr]

I don't think Mahan will make it this year.

Oh come on,Mahan is a lock:D

[In Ben We Trust]

Don't be surprised if Anderson goes ahead of Ben.

No chance in hell. OK let's see...

Rating - Ben 100.5, Anderson 85.8
TD's - Ben 29, Anderson 26
Int's - Ben 11, Anderson 14
Comp% - Ben 64.7, Anderson 56.2
Yards - Ben 2,897, Anderson 3,384

Score - Ben 4, Anderson 1

Throw in that in their head to head meeting Ben's team won and Ben probably played his best game of the year.

The only person you can make a legit case for in the AFC is Garrard but he missed 3 games due to injury....Ben is the choice IMO and if he is not it would be a damn crime. Take him off this Steeler team and we are 5-9 at best.

[Vader]

They should cancel the pro-bowl if Anderson goes instead of Ben. Put Anderson behind this wreck of an offensive line and see how he does.

[In Ben We Trust]

Bouchette from the PPG said that he thinks the 3 qb's will be Brady, Manning, and Big Ben....I hope he is right....Ben deserves it this year.

[Southern Steeler]

Just a point of reference....Vince Young played in the Pro Bowl last year.


It certainly CAN happen.

[mightyguru]

Ben better damn well get the nod.

[In Ben We Trust]

Just a point of reference....Vince Young played in the Pro Bowl last year.


It certainly CAN happen.


True but I think he was named to the team due to an injury to one of the top 3.

[Southern Steeler]

topseed won't know what to do since I'm not riding the bandwagon on this.

[Steelerfan81]

As of the beginning of December, Polamalu was leading all safeties in votes.. which is highway robbery.. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near that stadium.

I'm guessing, Ben, Parker, Faneca (on name), Hampton, Polamalu (on name and popularity) , and Harrison is a decent chance.

[Super Heathen]

Just a point of reference....Vince Young played in the Pro Bowl last year.


It certainly CAN happen.


OUCH! Yes, i suppose that anything can happen after all. Will Colon be an alternate OL?

[Southern Steeler]

True but I think he was named to the team due to an injury to one of the top 3.


he was.

Just the fact that he was there renders the whole thing kinda silly, I think.

[BuckeyeSteel]

he was.

Just the fact that he was there renders the whole thing kinda silly, I think.

Since when is the Pro Bowl about the best? I thought it was a popularity contest and a free vacation?

[In Ben We Trust]

The only reason I am worked up about it is because I want to get Ben's pro-bowl jersey.

[Aries1247]

Ben should fucking go lightyears before Anderson.

[Tres Rios]

Faneca will go just to help pad his resume for a bigger payday next year from Arizona.

[hamster]

I place watching the Pro Bowl in the same category as watching mold grow on cheese.

[Buster]

As of the beginning of December, Polamalu was leading all safeties in votes

Just wondering how Anthony Smith is faring in the voting?:rolleyes:

[Coryea]

Fuck Anderson,
Manning 28 TD's, 14 INT's, 95.2 rating
Ben 29 TD's, 11 INT's, 100.5 rating
I realize Manning has been missing a ton of players on offense, but that's saying something when Ben tops all his stats.
If Ben doesn't make the pro bowl, it's pure bullshit with the Oline he plays behind.

[warriors42]

maybe I am just being a homer, but I felt Ben should have went his rookie season, 13 straight wins and an AFC championship apperance. I know he had a lot of help, and the coaches actually did a grat job the way they managed the game for him, but how many rookie records does Big Ben hold..

[Steelerlyn1017]

Big Ben SHOULD make the Pro Bowl behind Brady and Manning. However, given the fact that the Steelers have been on a downward curve lately and not an upswing might sway the votes toward someone else like Derek Anderson.

[thatrain]

As of the beginning of December, Polamalu was leading all safeties in votes.. which is highway robbery.. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near that stadium.

I'm guessing, Ben, Parker, Faneca (on name), Hampton, Polamalu (on name and popularity) , and Harrison is a decent chance.


Those are the names I expect to see there.

[Coryea]

As of the beginning of December, Polamalu was leading all safeties in votes.. which is highway robbery.. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near that stadium.

I'm guessing, Ben, Parker, Faneca (on name), Hampton, Polamalu (on name and popularity) , and Harrison is a decent chance.

Why not, Ray Lewis has been getting a free ride for a few years now on name alone. Everyone knows when healthy Troy is the best safety in the game.

[CoolieMan]

Mario Williams of the Texans should be in.....eat that VY and Reggie fans.....

[steelberger1]

Ben, Willie, Harrison...I think that is it.

[Supersteeler]

Mario Williams of the Texans should be in.....eat that VY and Reggie fans.....

And I love hearing every single one of those dick eats their words after ridiculing the Texans the past two years. Haha, he's the best of the 3 at this point.

[BillvinCowbert]

Why not, Ray Lewis has been getting a free ride for a few years now on name alone. Everyone knows when healthy Troy is the best safety in the game.

Most Steelers fans think so, but he doesn't tackle well enough to be the best safety in the game. Sanders, Reed, and Adrian Wilson are all more complete players.

And his actual play the past two years definitely doesn't warrant going to the Pro Bowl.

[Vader]

Most Steelers fans think so, but he doesn't tackle well enough to be the best safety in the game. Sanders, Reed, and Adrian Wilson are all more complete players.

And his actual play the past two years definitely doesn't warrant going to the Pro Bowl.

I would take a straight up trade, Troy for Sanders right now. Sanders is a tackling machine.

[Coryea]

Reed gets beat deep a ton and can't tackle worth a shit, if you want a safety that is good with the ball in his hands then he's your guy.
Sanders is awesome love him, but he tackles the same way, uses himself like a torpedo, see the 2005 Monday night game when he kept coming up and popping Parker, he never once wrapped him up, and he's average in coverage.
Adrian Wilson, I don't get to see enough of him.

Most DB's don't wrap up, especially vs RB's, it's not just Troy.

[Vader]

Reed gets beat deep a ton and can't tackle worth a shit, if you want a safety that is good with the ball in his hands then he's your guy.
Sanders is awesome love him, but he tackles the same way, uses himself like a torpedo, see the 2005 Monday night game when he kept coming up and popping Parker, he never once wrapped him up, and he's average in coverage.
Adrian Wilson, I don't get to see enough of him.

Most DB's don't wrap up, especially vs RB's, it's not just Troy.

Sanders may not have had a great game against us a few years ago but he is one of the best tackling safeties in the game. Have you watched him this year? Or last year during their playoff run? He has been stellar.

[Sarge]

Sanders may not have had a great game against us a few years ago but he is one of the best tackling safeties in the game. Have you watched him this year? Or last year during their playoff run? He has been stellar.


If I'm building a team, I take Sanders over Polamalu and Reed. He's better than both of them.

[Blount 47]

Sanders is so much better than Troy it is not even funny. He elevates his teams play and they are awful defensively when he is out. We on the other hand are a better, more sound defense when Troy and his gimmick blitz and freelance crap is out with injuries accorsing to the stats, the wins and losses and the shutouts.

[ColdGinAgain]

Ben, Willie, Faneca, Harrison, and Troy.

[Tres Rios]

Reed is a heavy hitter and has good hands. That's it. He's lost trying to cover one on one and isn't that great in space.

Troy, Sanders and Adrian Wilson on the Cards are far and away the best safeties in the NFL.

[Coryea]

Sanders may not have had a great game against us a few years ago but he is one of the best tackling safeties in the game. Have you watched him this year? Or last year during their playoff run? He has been stellar.

Bob Sanders is awesome, he's one of my favorite non-Steelers, but he tackles the same exact way as Troy does, as do most DB's.
Sanders averages 1 tackle more per game than Troy does this year, Troy has 8 passes defensed in 10 games Sanders has 3 in 13 games. Maybe Sanders is a little better vs the run, but Troy is was better in pass coverage, he's a more complete player than Sanders is.

So Blount, what you're saying is that you'd rather have Tyrone Carter starting instead of Troy?

[t-bone]

on deserves...

Ben, Willie and Ike.....

thats it.

Troy and BigCase might make it on name.

[Coryea]

I think Hampton deserves to go, he'll never have great stats, but he pushes the center back just about everytime he's in the game.

[Ghost of Frenchy Fuqua]

Don Carter, Dick Weber, Earl Anthony, Walter Ray Williams...

Now that would be worth watching...

[Malice]

Ben, Willie, Hampton & hopefully Silverback

[Coryea]

Don Carter, Dick Weber, Earl Anthony, Walter Ray Williams...

Now that would be worth watching...

especially if they'd do the trick shots.

[Spike]

The teams will be announced at 4 p.m. (ET) Tuesday, December 18 on a special NFL Total Access 2008 NFL Pro Bowl Selection Show on NFL Network

[Hines57]

NFL network exclusive. lovely.

[bearcatsno69]

I heard Anthony Smith was a lock. He has recently purchased 2 general admission tickets.

[Ghost of Frenchy Fuqua]

Interesting phenomenon:

A lot of people are interested in who makes the Pro Bowl.

But relatively few actually take time to watch the game. Traditionally it's a very low-rated telecast.

I think I once wrote that pro bowling on ABC drew a bigger audience...

[Coryea]

Interesting phenomenon:

A lot of people are interested in who makes the Pro Bowl.

But relatively few actually take time to watch the game. Traditionally it's a very low-rated telecast.

I think I once wrote that pro bowling on ABC drew a bigger audience...

I like the skills competition things they do more than the game, but I usually watch the game if there's a few Steelers playing.

My favorite is when ESPN does the Gridiron Challenge, where they compete in different sports and advents, it was pretty funny watching Porter and Chad Johnson trying to hit a golf ball.

[Spike]

NFL network exclusive. lovely.

"True Fans®" get Sunday Ticket and the NFL Network

[Ghost of Frenchy Fuqua]

Crafty marketing by the NFL (and DirecTV) to include NFL Network if you're a Sunday Ticket subscriber...

[Steel Dino]

The real question is......

Will the Browns have more Pro Bowlers than the Steelers.....

[FAB802]

The real question is......

Will the Browns have more Pro Bowlers than the Steelers.....

They probably will. I see us having Ben, Willie, and Harrison should go but may not.

[Sarge]

I don't think Ben will make it although I can't see anyone besides Brady that deserves to be ahead of him in the AFC. Not even Manning. But after reading several sites, It appears that the sexy pick is Derek Anderson along with Brady and Manning. Some even have David Garrard ahead of Ben. I'm not sure he makes it.

[steelberger1]

I don't think Ben will make it although I can't see anyone besides Brady that deserves to be ahead of him in the AFC. Not even Manning. But after reading several sites, It appears that the sexy pick is Derek Anderson along with Brady and Manning. Some even have David Garrard ahead of Ben. I'm not sure he makes it.

I could make a case for Garrard even though he missed half the season, but Anderson hasnt done shit for the 2nd half of the year....he doesnt deserve to get in.

[In Ben We Trust]

If Ben does not go to the pro-bowl this year it would perhaps be the biggest snub in history. His stats are better than Garrard and Anderson and he plays behind a terrible o-line....you take him away and we suck.

[avoidlloyd]

just heard 11 cowgirls made it

[mightyguru]

Troy, Ben, James, Alan and Willie. Cool.

[Assgry]

What about Mahan? Timmons?

[mightyguru]

What about Mahan? Timmons?

Mahan made the All WTF Team.

[Balls&YourWord]

They've been announced. Roethlisberger is the third QB, Parker the 3rd RB, Faneca starts at G, Harrison starts at OLB, and Troy backs up Sanders at SS.

[Clinton]

glad to see Ben make it. Don't really see what Harrison has done to be a pro bowler though.(one good game). But hey...We'll take it.

also, Ocho Stinko no makey

[Dante LeRoi]

Glad to see Ben got in, he deserves it as does Willie. Faneca and Troy get in no matter how good they play ;)
And I really hoped Silverback would make it but didn't think he had a chance...glad I was wrong :D

[Sarge]

Glad to hear Ben made it. ECXELLENT. As I said before, no AFC QB other than BRady deserves it more than Ben. Not this year.

[ColdGinAgain]

Ben, Willie, Faneca, Harrison, and Troy.


Boo- yaa bitches. I called it first.

[markymarc]

Very happy to see Ben, Willie and Harrison make it. Faneca and Troy are givens. Ben had an amazing year. Just think what he could have done if we had a better OL protecting him.

[Max Power]

Five players in the Pro-Bowl - we should be more than able to dispense with the Rams on Thursday Night.

[Far51]

the all WTF team

QB'sGrossman Boller Bulger
RB's Benson Bush Green
WR's CJ Boldin Bennett Colsten
TE's Troupe Shockey Heap
OT's Smith Tra Thomas
OG's Simmons Stacey Andrews (played both OG & OT in absence of Anderson)
OC Mahan

[toledosteel7]

The real question is......

Will the Browns have more Pro Bowlers than the Steelers.....

Browns have two: Edwards and Cribbs.

[Vindrow]

Glad to see Willie and Ben get in they both deserve it this year, and congrats to Troy, Harrison, and Faneca.

[Hallmarky]

The Pro Bowl selection is a joke. Ray Lewis made it.

[Lunar7]

I didn't vote for any Patriots, was that wrong?

[Stlrs4Life]

Congrats to Ben, Willie, Troy, Alan, and Harrison.

[SteelerFan448]

Congrats to all of the Steelers that made it!!

[Jmat]

Troy Polamalu????? WHAT?!?!

First he gets named to the 75th Annivesary Steeler team, which he didn't give a shit about. Now he makes the Pro Bowl?

Unreal.

Congrats to Ben and Silverback and Willie and Faneca.

[Steelerman]

First he gets named to the 75th Annivesary Steeler team, which he didn't give a shit about. Now he makes the Pro Bowl?

.

I always liked Troy but that really pissed me off when he flat-out said he practically didn't give a shit. He was voted by the fans onto a team loaded full of Hall of Famers. He better fucking give a shit.

[Spike]

I can't believe Ogden is on that list. He's started a whole 8 games this season...and they lost every one of those games.

[Vader]

I can't believe Ogden is on that list. He's started a whole 8 games this season...and they lost every one of those games.

You know you shouldn't be in the pro-bowl if a Steeler LBer punks you. He had a good game against the pats* but was just average or below average outside of that game... much like the team.

[Spike]

No Jags on that list either.............none....nada....zero....zip.

Fred Taylor gets snubbed again.

[Jmat]

No Jags on that list either.............none....nada....zero....zip.

Fred Taylor gets snubbed again.

That's a damn shame.

[Steel Dino]

Browns have two: Edwards and Cribbs.

Winslow didn't make it?

[Spike]

NFL Channel just had a Steeler's Cam live interview with Willie. Too bad you cheap bastards missed it.

Ben was on too - some blond chick in the locker room asking him stupid questions. He sounded fired up for Thursday.

[Aries1247]

Shame on those who didn't think Ben would make it. Hang your heads.

[CoSteelrgrl]

I always liked Troy but that really pissed me off when he flat-out said he practically didn't give a shit. He was voted by the fans onto a team loaded full of Hall of Famers. He better fucking give a shit.

I think the point he's trying to make is that all the accolades don't mean a thing if he isn't a solid contributor to the team. He is not a man for resting on his laurels. The man has always been uncomfortable being singled out. The Jacksonville game was the closest to the old 'balls to the wall' Troy we've seen this year. Most games this season he's been a half-step off. His fantasy numbers were way off, even before he was out with the knee.

Faneca got in strictly on his name this year, because his play sure hasn't been up to par. It kills me that FN Faneca gets in and Casey Hampton does not.

Nice to see Harrison being recognized. Deservedly so. He's been a real bright spot on the defense this season.

[mightyguru]

Really happy for FWP and Ben especially. Very much desereved the recognition.

[insaniti]

I honestly see one snub from our team for the probowl. Jeff Reed, dude has been lights out for us this year, his only two misses were a 65 yard attempt and the one from the mud bowl... he has 99 pts to Boronas 119, but he has a much better %.

[OhioSteel]

Congrats to Big Ben, Willie, Troy, Alan, and Silverback.

[Sarge]

Shame on those who didn't think Ben would make it. Hang your heads.

Come on that's not fair. I doubt there's anyone who didn't think he deserved it. But I felt sure he wouldn't get selected because:

1) Ben plays for the Steelers, "a running team. All he does is manage the game." We all know that's not the case, especially this year. He broke a franchise record for touchdown passes that stood for how long, and has been fantastic with a shitty O-line and a less than stellar and healthy WR corps. I think one game the Steelers started Washington and Wilson at WR because Hines and Holmes were both injured. I would love to see lord Brady put up the big numbers behind our line, with Arians playcalling, having to rely on a 50% Holmes, an aging Ward, Washington and Wilson. Gimmie a break. It would be a train wreck.

2) David Garrard and Derek Anderson are the new hotness, despite the numbers Big Ben has put up. Manning got in on name recognition, and Brady simply couldn't be denied this year. I thought for sure it would be Anderson over Ben, because the Browns have be so shitty for so long, somebody comes along at QB and has a good season, makes the Pro Bowl, it's a great story. It would have been a travesty to non-homer football fans the NFL over, but man, ESPN would be poppin right now.

I said it before and I'll say it again. Other than Tom Brady, NO QUARTERBACK IN THE AFC, including Manning, deserves to be in the Pro Bowl ahead of Big Ben. Not this year. Talk about doing more with less. Ben could tell you all about it.

I didn't think he'd make it. I thought he'd get robbed. Sure you heard about his play up until the Steelers hit this funk they're in. Then it was all Garrard and Anderson. But Ben wasn't playing that badly, if it was bad at all. He was steady if unspectacular. He earned it this year, and I'm glad people outside of Pittsburgh's fan base saw it. Once you get labeled a "game manager", it's tough to shake no matter what you do. I'm proud of Ben. This is a few years over due if you ask me.

[Steelz]

Im really happy for Alan Faneca because he could've held out this year if he really wanted to. I'm sure everybody's glad he didnt. Im glad Ben's finally starting to get recognized as being among the NFL's elite Qbs.



But Jeff Reed & Ike Taylor got snubbed IMO.

[omawho]

http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2007/12/18/2008-nfl-pro-bowl-selections/

[BillvinCowbert]

I honestly see one snub from our team for the probowl. Jeff Reed, dude has been lights out for us this year, his only two misses were a 65 yard attempt and the one from the mud bowl... he has 99 pts to Boronas 119, but he has a much better %.

Bironas is 31/35 to Reed's 21/23, that's not even close. So I assume you'd put Fred Taylor and Justin Fargas in before Willie based on their YPC?

[thatrain]

Im really happy for Alan Faneca because he could've held out this year if he really wanted to. I'm sure everybody's glad he didnt. Im glad Ben's finally starting to get recognized as being among the NFL's elite Qbs.



But Jeff Reed & Ike Taylor got snubbed IMO.

Ike has had a decent year, but Cornerbacks need to catch the ball to make the pro bowl, and that's not Ike's strong suit.

[VaSteelerFan]

Crafty marketing by the NFL (and DirecTV) to include NFL Network if you're a Sunday Ticket subscriber...


DirecTV has the NFL Network on their basic packages. You don't need the NFL Sunday Ticket

[VaSteelerFan]

Ben won't know how to react playing behind a real OL. I bet he scrambles out of non-existent pressure out of habit.

[insaniti]

Bironas is 31/35 to Reed's 21/23, that's not even close. So I assume you'd put Fred Taylor and Justin Fargas in before Willie based on their YPC?

and like I pointed out, he only has 10 more points than Reed. so what exactly is your argument here? do you really think Boronas is a better kicker? lets not forget that he had EIGHT of those in one game, so he basically gets in because of one game?

[Steelerman]

I think the point he's trying to make is that all the accolades don't mean a thing if he isn't a solid contributor to the team.



"My wife doesn't even know about it," Polamalu said. "I don't know what it has to do with anything, quite honestly. It really doesn't have much to do with anything, but I don't want to disrespect anyone because I know people do care about things like this."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07299/828705-66.stm?cmpid=steelers.xml

[Steelerlyn1017]

Congrats to all who made it, especially Big Ben. I honestly thought he would get snubbed again this year.

And I really dislike Fred Taylor, so him not making the pro bowl again makes me happy. I used to get so angry watching him when he played for UF under Visor Boy Spurrier. I have a friend who is a JAX fan and she was on another message board BRAGGING that Taylor was gonna get in and how JAX is the best team ever and how Taylor is the best running back EVER (over Walter Payton and the like). So now I can go rub it in her face too.:D

[BillvinCowbert]

and like I pointed out, he only has 10 more points than Reed. so what exactly is your argument here? do you really think Boronas is a better kicker? lets not forget that he had EIGHT of those in one game, so he basically gets in because of one game?

Yes, I think he's a better kicker. His "touchback %" is also nearly double Reed's.

[Spike]

And I really dislike Fred Taylor, so him not making the pro bowl again makes me happy

Sorry Muffin, but that's just wrong, I hate the jags as much as the next folk, but I'd rather see Fred get in. He's earned it.

[Steelerlyn1017]

Sorry Muffin, but that's just wrong, I hate the jags as much as the next folk, but I'd rather see Fred get in. He's earned it.

I know it is wrong, but I can't help it. I can't stand the guy. Yeah, he earned it, but it gives me better satisfaction knowing that he didn't get in. Yeah, I know. I am a bitch.;)

[carbonsteel]

I'm sorry, but I have to say this.

Troy getting into the Pro Bowl is an absolute joke.

I'm sorry, but it is.

Do I think he is a great player, yes. Do I think he is a pro bowl CALIBER of player, yes.

But THIS year he has done nothing performance-wise to justify a pro bowl designation. Other than past performance from previous years.

JMO

[Steelerlyn1017]

I'm sorry, but I have to say this.

Troy getting into the Pro Bowl is an absolute joke.

I'm sorry, but it is.

Do I think he is a great player, yes. Do I think he is a pro bowl CALIBER of player, yes.

But THIS year he has done nothing performance-wise to justify a pro bowl designation. Other than past performance from previous years.

JMO


I agree with you. And I am a HUGE Troy fan.

[markymarc]

Yes, I think he's a better kicker. His "touchback %" is also nearly double Reed's.


I also think Bironas is a very good kicker, but do you honestly believe he could put up good numbers like Reed if he had to kick in Heinz field 8 games a season? No question Bironas has a very strong leg, but Reed has done a decent job residing in Pittsburgh.