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LetMePlay

01-15-2008, 11:11 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/01/14/ncca.convention.playoff.ap/index.html

FistfullofRings

01-15-2008, 11:16 AM

Why, I thought the BCS worked? Maybe it just needs to be more complicated?

Coryea

01-15-2008, 11:17 AM

Why, I thought the BCS worked? Maybe it just needs to be more complicated?

They need more computers involved that's all.

ColdGinAgain

01-15-2008, 11:24 AM

The only problem is, his idea sucks. He wants to use the four major bowls as the first round. That's not gonna work because that stretches the season out until the middle of January.

What they should do is take the top 8 teams decided by the polls. they seed them and play the first round in Mid December with the high seeds getting the home games.

the 4 losers match up in two of the major bowls on New Years week.

The 4 winners match up in the other two bowls

two winners of that go on to the Champ game a week later.. season ends around the same time. Bowl games are in tact. everyone's a winner here.

SteelerGuy

01-15-2008, 11:27 AM

They need more computers involved that's all.

They need more teams....

Sluzilla

01-15-2008, 11:33 AM

i've been a big proponent of the tourney...but one thing i hadn't thought of that was brought up...

the fans...some of the tickets and travel are pretty expensive...if you have up to 3 games to travel to...will you really have the same fan turnout?...

FistfullofRings

01-15-2008, 11:38 AM

the fans...some of the tickets and travel are pretty expensive...if you have up to 3 games to travel to...will you really have the same fan turnout?...

I thought of that as well. I think they'd have to give home field in the early round(s) to the higher seed and only play the semi-finals and championship at neutral (bowl) sites.

FistfullofRings

01-15-2008, 11:39 AM

They need more computers involved that's all.

The decision of who plays for the championship should be 100% objective.

Hines57

01-15-2008, 12:25 PM

SteelerFan448

01-15-2008, 05:47 PM

It works for March Madness. Why wouldnt it work for football?

Well they are filling stadiums with about 5 times as many people that fit in a normal arena (not including the Final Four sites).

Sluzilla

01-15-2008, 05:50 PM

what are the ticket prices comparatively for March Madness vs BCS?...

i don't know...just asking...

Hines57

01-15-2008, 05:53 PM

Havent been to a final four or any of the tournament games but I seem to recall tickets going for $50 and up. Depends on where you sit and where the regional is.

Imagine the NCAA holding the playoff games in some of the big stadiums, Michigan, Tennessee, Ohio State, Penn State....they could pack in some serious people and make some serious cash.

The whole bowl system is antiquated. It doesnt work

Spike

01-15-2008, 06:11 PM

What a shitty thread.

A cutsey headline leading to only a link? WTF is going on around here? I hate shitty reporting.

I'm not opening that shit, I don't give a flying fuck what the story is about.

You suck. At least put a a fucking paragraph to let us know what it's about.

Did I mention this thread sucks?

Lunar7

01-15-2008, 06:16 PM

Clinton

01-15-2008, 06:31 PM

cue Southern Steeler to come tell us its all the big tens fault...
hehehe

Southern Steeler

01-15-2008, 06:56 PM

cue Southern Steeler to come tell us its all the big tens fault...
hehehe

I'm not the one saying it....

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-ohiost-noplayoffs&prov=ap&type=lgns

Don't count on Gee, Tressel to favor dumping bowls to institute playoffs

By RUSTY MILLER, AP Sports Writer
January 1, 2008

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Jim Tressel padded his resume thanks to college playoffs. Once a fervent supporter of the postseason format, now he's changed camps.

As for his boss, Ohio State President Gordon Gee, don't even mention revising the current system to him. You do, and the guy in the bow tie gets downright graphic.

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"As far as a playoff system, there will not be one," Gee said. "They'll have to wrench a playoff system out of my cold, dead hands." With Ohio State poised to meet LSU in the Bowl Championship Series title game on Jan. 7, Tressel is as anti-playoffs as one can get. He doesn't foresee anyone tearing down the bowl system to give many fans what they want -- a true playoff format similar to what takes place in the other three divisions of college football.

"A playoff system is proposed a lot. It's been talked about a million times. What I would say about it is you've got a lot of hurdles," said Tressel, who won four Division I-AA playoff titles while at Youngstown State. "What are you going to do with the dates because people like the bowls around the holidays? I think most importantly you have student-athlete issues."

Six times in his 15 years at Youngstown State, Tressel's teams played 15 games in a season. He had no problem with the way the postseason was laid out then. But now that he's spent seven years in Division I-A, or the Football Bowl Subdivision as it is now known, he believes that too much is asked of football players in most playoff formulas.

The lengthy postseason cuts into academics and increases the possibility of injuries, he said. It also affects preparations for all-star games and combines for juniors and seniors looking ahead to the NFL draft.

Not surprisingly, some of his current players agree with him.

"You can't tell me it isn't taxing on a D-3 or I-AA player," linebacker James Laurinaitis said.

Every year there are cries for playoffs. But there is no consensus on how many teams would be invited. Another hurdle that Tressel points to is no matter how many teams go into the playoffs, some teams will make the case that they were left out.

In this wacky season in which a team with two losses (LSU at 11-2) is playing for the BCS title for the first time, some wonder what Hawaii did that was so wrong. The Warriors won all 12 of their games -- the only FBS team to do so -- yet were shut out of the title game.

"Maybe it's a flawed system," wide receiver Brian Hartline said. "Maybe we should have a tournament or playoff at the end of the year, because as far as I'm concerned you're right -- Hawaii beat everyone they played, so why shouldn't they get a shot?"

But that's not happening this year, and the Hawaiis of the world likely will never get that chance because of the weight applied to being a perennial contender from a "power" conference.

It is university presidents who are seemingly at the controls of college athletics. Gee said there is no way that the current system will be tossed away for playoffs, and he thinks most other presidents would agree with him.

"The reasons are that the bowl system works and the BCS with all of its flaws has actually created a lot of excitement," he said. "The reason we're all here is it's been a crazy, topsy-turvy year. It's much more fun than if there was just kind of this slugging forward like professional programs.

"And the third thing is that it's a slippery slope. I listen to the media. The problem is when we entered into the BCS system, we said this is it, this is as far as we're going to go. We planted our flag in the ground. Then all of a sudden people said you have to go the next step."

And that is not going to happen, he said.

Tressel admits that the BCS is not perfect. He thinks there will be modifications to the current postseason structure. But, for the most part, what you see is what you're going to get.

"I don't think anything's good enough. Just like Edison used to always say, 'There's a better way to do this: let's find it.' We've been doing that over history. We've changed things methodically," Tressel said. "I'm sure 10 years from now it's not going to look exactly the way it does. I can't tell you exactly how it's going to change. But there have been some things that limit how we can change it."