Hines calls out the coaching

[Spike]

Steelers forgot about Mendenhall late

Monday, November 23, 2009
By Gene Collier, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Peter Diana/Post-Gazette

Steelers running back Rashard Mendenhall accounted for 116 yards combined rushing and receiving yesterday.


KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Remember when it was fashionable to trash Rashard Mendenhall, to snark on his fumbling, riff on his evident indecision, bewail his questionable status as a force for good on an offense laced with All-Pros and Super Bowl MVPs?

Well there's good news: Rashard Mendenhall's progression might have made him the best player on the field yesterday. Too bad the rest of the organization blew past him in the opposite direction.

Losing to the Kansas City Chiefs probably isn't the worst thing you can do in this league, but its degree of difficulty might suggest otherwise. Until yesterday, you should note, the Chiefs hadn't won twice in a row in more than two years.

"That is not us; it won't be us, but it was us today," Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said in a postgame, fast-distilling a 27-24 overtime loss into an audio edition of US Magazine.

The head coach forcefully accepted full responsibility for the Steelers' second loss in eight days, but it was intriguing that some of the uniformed personnel seemed to indicate general support for that assessment.

"The coaches have to put us in a better position," said Hines Ward, as tenured a Steelers player as you can find and a man who had just wasted a 10-catch, 128-yard performance. "All of us have to look in the mirror, but we're all in this together; the coaches have to evaluate themselves as much was we do."

The first thing Tomlin and his offensive staff have to ask themselves is whether they trust Mendenhall to win a game for them, because even though he nearly had done exactly that without authorization in 60 minutes of 600 Steelers mistakes, they still utilized him in the overtime like he was Plan 9 From Outer Space.

Mind you, there would have been no overtime without Mendenhall.

Without Mendenhall, the Steelers lose in regulation.

It was Mendenhall, lest anyone forget, who had the cardio and the will to gallop more than 100 yards to chase down Chiefs linebacker Andy Studebaker at the Steelers' 8 late in the third quarter. Studebaker, making his first career start, had taken off on a coast-to-coast flight with a misdirected Ben Roethlisberger pass he had collected 2 yards deep in his own end zone. Mendenhall turned a certain touchdown into a Chiefs field goal, keeping the score tied at that point, then beat the coverage on a quick post to pull in an 8-yard touchdown pass that put the Steelers back on top, 24-17, with 8:35 remaining.

The blown coverages in the Steelers' secondary, part of a systems-wide breakdown from one end of this Missouri lawn to the other, resulted in a tying touchdown less than four minutes later. But in a game when Mendenhall would account for 116 yards rushing and receiving, the Steelers ran exactly one play for him over two possessions in the final 4:54.

"I felt like we had a good balance between running and passing," Mendenhall said diplomatically.

The imbalanced balance yesterday was 42 passes, 29 runs. The Steelers haven't had a rushing touchdown since Oct. 19, but it looked suspiciously like they were capable of one in the overtime. Mendenhall got 7 yards on a first-and-10, 7 yards on the next first-and-10, then 8 on second-and-10 to the Kansas City 35.

But on third-and-2, or just one first down from a winning field goal, offensive coordinator Bruce Arians sent Mewelde Moore wide right on a toss play. A stampede of red shirts put Moore on the grass for a loss of 3, leaving Tomlin no choice but to punt.

"I guess if they go zero -- and all-out blitz, we might have been able to pop one outside on them," said Charlie Batch, suddenly in the game after Roethlisberger took a knee to the head from linebacker Derrick Johnson. "But they didn't."

"We tried to get a perimeter run there," Tomlin said. "We were at the outer edge of field-goal range."

"I guess we thought we could catch them in something," Ward said. "I cracked down on the end, but it didn't work. If you run something else and it doesn't work, maybe it's fourth-and-1 and you give us a chance. But when you lose 3 yards, you have no choice but to punt. The play call is what it is; we have to execute it."

Four plays later, Chiefs wideout Chris Chambers took a short Matt Cassel pass 61 yards through a fractured Steelers secondary to the spot of the winning field goal.

That the Steelers lost on the road for the third time this year (more than all of last year) is one thing, but that they lost to a team that is 90 percent talent-free speaks poorly of their pridefulness.

"We'll get it corrected, whatever it is," shrugged nose tackle Casey Hampton. "We can still win 12 games, so it don't matter. Twelve will get you in [to the playoffs]."

I don't know if playing 'em six at a time will be very productive, but being a little more trustful of No. 34 certainly ought to be.


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Way to go Hines - you have every right to fault the horsecrap calls on offense.

No boss is too big to be replaced on the job when he sucks, especially when the people who work for him KNOW he sucks and management is too gutless to call for his head I'd say it's about time the coaches get called out in public.

Get old man Rooney back on the sidelines, this shit has gone on long enough. Tomlin has let this team go soft, no more days off for these prima-donnas.

Choking the season away. - one play at a time.

Fuck it, if Ben can't get his swolled head under control, bench him too and let Batch start, play conservative and they might win the next game. Turnovers cost this game - you just can't do that.

[Vader]

Exactly right!! Tell them Mr. Ward. This is all on the coaches. How do you not use mendy more??? He is tearing them a new one and he is on the bench in crunch time. What a bunch of morons.

[LeXX75]

It was more than turnovers..there is a team wide malise going on..turnover, penalties..awfull special teams the inability to stop a terrible offense ..play calling ..you name it and we are doing it or not doing it. They play very much like a team that thinks they can just walk on the field and win.The season is not lost we are in the hunt..the talent is there its just a matter of making that talent do what it must do..Tomlin needs to take this team and drag it back to its roots...

[TMC]

Sorry, but the coaches did not fail to tackle on the kickoff. They did not fumble the football or throw 2 interceptions. The 2nd interception by Ben turned into a FG for the Chiefs. That is a 6 point swing, at the least.

What we really need now is the players to start dragging the coaches in the media. Then we can have fistfights in the locker room at halftime and players begging to be let out of contracts.

[Faux]

I'm sure it's a mix of all things, but I will say the coaching isn't impresing me. Our offence is so pass happy when we are actually able to run with Mendenhall that it's frustrating. Ben would throw less picks if we ran it a bit more. The offence being balanced means the D can't just stack the run or blitz the pass. Arians really needs to go. *gets pitchforks and torches*

To be fair, of course, the Defence isn't looking as good as we're used to this year... or is it just me. Troy cannot be that important. We need to draft a corner this year D:

[Steelerman]

Exactly right!! Tell them Mr. Ward. This is all on the coaches. How do you not use mendy more??? He is tearing them a new one and he is on the bench in crunch time. What a bunch of morons.

....and Gene Collier nails that one:

Steelers forgot about Mendenhall late



KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Remember when it was fashionable to trash Rashard Mendenhall, to snark on his fumbling, riff on his evident indecision, bewail his questionable status as a force for good on an offense laced with All-Pros and Super Bowl MVPs?

Well there's good news: RasharMendenhall's progression might have made him the best player on the field yesterday. Too bad the rest of the organization blew past him in the opposite direction.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09327/1015677-150.stm

[Diamond Dave]

"The coaches have to put us in a better position," said Hines Ward, as tenured a Steelers player as you can find and a man who had just wasted a 10-catch, 128-yard performance. "All of us have to look in the mirror, but we're all in this together; the coaches have to evaluate themselves as much was we do."

Hines better watch himself or some people here are going to start saying that he's not a real Steelers fan.

It's not just one thing. The players have to make plays, but the coaches have to put the right guys on the field with the right plan. It starts at the top. Our special teams was horrendous last year and they are horrendous this year. What has Tomlin done to fix it? Cut Arnold Harrison.

Troy Polamalu is a legendary player, but the defense shouldn't turn into a bunch of unemotional screen doors when he's out.

Sweed, Parker, Mendenhall - Tomlin has no problem calling out and benching players when they aren't performing up to standard. When are the coaches going to be held to that same standard?

[TMC]

Maybe, if we are lucky, the coaches will do an interview next and point out all the mistakes of the players. They could hold a Pay-Per-View and have an out the door locker room brawl.

The money could go to charity.

That is MUCH smarter than talking to the coaches in private and airing things out. The media always helps clear things up faster.

[ronburgundy]

Our special teams was horrendous last year and they are horrendous this year. What has Tomlin done to fix it? Cut Arnold Harrison.
Is Chidi Iwoma busy or did he get signed by Arizona too?

[SteelerScott]

A good place for the coaches to look is the Pass Attempts vs Rush Attempts.
Yesterday was 40+ Passes and 25+ Rushes.

[bigtwnvin]

On first and goal Arians runs a pass play with an empty backfield resulting in an INT. PLEASE lose this chooch now. Arians is out of options and has no imagination for the remaining 6 games.

[Sean]

Ben Roethlisberger is one of the last people we can point fingers at after this loss, eventhough he'll put the blame squarely on his shoulders. Roethlisberger threw one bad pass yesterday, and it was while he was getting hit. At the same time, it was in triple coverage so when the ball flubbed out of his hand we knew it was going to be an interception...

The other interception was NOT on Roethlisberger. Heath Miller let the ball hit him right on the shoulder pad and it popped up on him.

Roethlisberger was crisp yesterday. He was using his checkdowns, avoiding the rush to create bigger plays, and trying to make the most out of every play...which he usually did.

We stopped trying to run the ball once Chris Kemoeatu went out, despite never being behind in the game until the last play. When we finally do run it, it's a fucking sweep (which the Steelers have NEVER had success running) with the third fastest running back on our roster on a 3rd and 2. Result of the play? Loss of yards.

Willie Gay continues to show why he is the weak link on this defense, eventhough the Chiefs only had Chris Chambers to throw the ball to. Chambers was on Gay's side of the field prior to breaking open for the fateful 61-yard gain. Gay also blew coverage on the tight end in the red zone, which resulted in a TD.

As DD just stated, the defense is a completely different unit without Troy Polamalu. There is no doubt that he is the best safety in the league, and probably our defensive MVP, as the defense can't stop the Kansas City offense in the fourth quarter or overtime.

I'm livid with this team right now, as they have insulted me as a Steeler fan. If they do make the playoffs, which is a longshot at best right now, they will be one and done.

Bruce Arians and Bob Ligashesky must be replaced.

[Spike]

Of course Ben is to blame - he's making bad decisions - there's no reason for him to force that throw in the EZ - throw it away!!!

It's 1st and 10 from the 10 - if it's not wide open THROW IT AWAY!!! Worst happens - we kick a FG.

You have to play smart too - you have a 10 point lead - you run the ball, bust them in the mouth by running the ball down their throats and they give up.

When we needed a game manager we got a brain damaged turnover machine that lost the game.

[kev4heels]

Hey TMC -
Agree completely about Hines opening his mouth in public...yes, he has the equity to do it but that doesn't make it smart.

Not sure what to make of BA. I don't think he deserves as much bashing as he gets but yesterdays 3rd and 2 call (pitch to Mewelde)
was atrocious. I am starting to think BA may be gone at the end of the year. Do you think his job should be in jeopardy?
Of course Mikey T is letting him do his thing, so who knows.

[jse17]

Of course Ben is to blame - he's making bad decisions - there's no reason for him to force that throw in the EZ - throw it away!!!

It's 1st and 10 from the 10 - if it's not wide open THROW IT AWAY!!! Worst happens - we kick a FG.

You have to play smart too - you have a 10 point lead - you run the ball, bust them in the mouth by running the ball down their throats and they give up.

When we needed a game manager we got a brain damaged turnover machine that lost the game.


I see where you are going here albeit on the harsh side. With this said, however, knowing what not to do is every bit as important as knowing what to do!

[LastRide]

I see where you are going here albeit on the harsh side. With this said, however, knowing what not to do is every bit as important as knowing what to do!

Mendy had 21 carries for 80 yards before they never used him again.They should have kept pounding the ball with him. I guarantee the Steelers would have won in OT if they kept giving Mendy the ball.

[Turbo Pig]

Sorry, but the coaches did not fail to tackle on the kickoff. They did not fumble the football or throw 2 interceptions. The 2nd interception by Ben turned into a FG for the Chiefs. That is a 6 point swing, at the least.

What we really need now is the players to start dragging the coaches in the media. Then we can have fistfights in the locker room at halftime and players begging to be let out of contracts.

With all those mistakes, we still win the game if our Coaches don't act like a bunch of inexperienced morons

[Spike]

Like I said, blaming JUST the coaching is childish.

It's like an 8 year old that flunks a math test and blames his mommy for not preparing him right.
boo-hoo

At some point the players have to take responsiblility too.

[steelcan58]

Sorry, but the coaches did not fail to tackle on the kickoff. They did not fumble the football or throw 2 interceptions. The 2nd interception by Ben turned into a FG for the Chiefs. That is a 6 point swing, at the least.

What we really need now is the players to start dragging the coaches in the media. Then we can have fistfights in the locker room at halftime and players begging to be let out of contracts.

They might not be the ones not making the plays, but they sure as hell are the ones putting up with it.

My take on it is Hines is fed up with watching this lack of coaching. Coaches not making players accountable for subpar efforts. Tomlin and company has had how long to address this special teams situation and have come up with what - cutting one player. How many leads have we blown with breakdowns at the end of the game?

Nobody has worked harder over the years than HInes. He is coming to the end of his career and sees a Super Bowl opportunity flushed down the toilet by a lack of overall preperation. He's obviously frustrated. Is he right for doing this in the media? Nine out of ten times no. But he may see this as the only way to shake things up.

[hook]

You have to run the ball more, just like we did a few years ago. How many Super Bowls were won by pass heavy offenses like Miami with Marino and San Diego with Fouts? NONE. You have to run the ball to eat up the clock and wear down the defense, especially with our defense playing like it has been lately.

[Skully]

Like I said, blaming JUST the coaching is childish.

It's like an 8 year old that flunks a math test and blames his mommy for not preparing him right.
boo-hoo

At some point the players have to take responsiblility too.


Ive said it since we lost, everyone takes the blaim

yes I agree with what Ward is saying, but even he has to look in the mirror after that game. ok he had a typical Ward game, but if your the champs, and you cant get a win against a 2-8 team, dont point the finger at others, man up and take the blaim

now I know a lot of you will say "mendy/ben/ward had a great day, dont say its there fault", bullshit, theres only so much passing of the buck a team can take

if these guys want to get it together, they have to be a team, win like a team, lose like a team, for that to happen, coach needs to make that team work. So yes, even if it means coping with the coaches we have for the rest of the season. But even as much as i dont like BA, the fact MT kept him last year says he trusts in him, and I know after having a bad day in any sport, if your team keeps you, the moral and movation you get is amazing

yah, I know half of that was bullshit and jibberish, point im saying is lets not point the finger, lets point fingers at everyone in that team

[The Drake]

Like I said, blaming JUST the coaching is childish.

It's like an 8 year old that flunks a math test and blames his mommy for not preparing him right.
boo-hoo

At some point the players have to take responsiblility too.

Normally I would agree with you, but not getting a call in to the secondary in OT is on the coaches. Call a fucking timeout if there is a communication problem. 1st and goal and not running the ball at all is on the coaches. 3rd and 2 and you take out the guy that has been ass raping the defense for 7 yards a carry in OT for your 3rd down back who is then told to run a sweep to the right. I'm sorry, but thats all on the coaching staff. I'm glad Ward said something its time for Tomlin to take control of this team. #1 the special teams coach should not have a job today. #2 he has to start overriding Arians when he decides he is going to away from the run and away from the hot hand.

[Spike]

I already said on page one that Ward was right to call out the coaches - this is another conversation about Ben's decision making - if the play isn't there on 1st and 10 from the 10 - THROW IT AWAY!!!

Audible out, run the ball, kick the FG and win the game. Use your head.

[jmat]

The Steelers forgot about defense. Another 10 point lead blown. Then a 7 point lead blown with 6 minutes to play.

As lousy as the ST's are and as inefficient as the offense can be it's the overrated Steeler D that's giving away games and not holding on to leads.

[mightyguru]

Put me in the chorus...I was screaming "where is Rashard!!!" more than once. Ride that dude. He will break tackles for God's sake.

[coolshark]

Devastating to watch.

all loses were in the same fashion. I know the players make the plays. But our coaching sucks. There were so many bad play calls. The obvious ones mentioned above. plus when Kemo got hurt the very next play was 3&2 and we run behind Foster, who got no push. These are the inadequate calls that piss me off. Our OC blows.

[SteelAddiction]

Hines Ward was WIDE open in the back of the endzone on the second INT. If Ben wasn't hit as he released it than it's a TD and nobody is bitching about the one person that had a solid game yesterday. Once again we see how little depth we have on our OL and their weaknesses against a pathetic defense in terms of pass rush was exposed yet again. Exactly when is it the coaches responsibility? Is it Tomlin's responsibility to put competent players on the field, accentuate their strengths and mask their weaknesses, and try to put them in a position to succeed? Is it not Tomlin's responsibility to field competent coaches that can teach, coach, and mentor the players into better players? Is it Tomlin's responsibility to be the leader of the team, make the critical decisions during the game, and try to control the ebb and flow during the game? Tell me again what exactly Tomlin has done to warrant such devotion? Winning the SB last year? We lose that game if it were not for Ben playing out of his mind and making some spectacular plays out of nothing. If not for Ben making a once in a lifetime throw and Holmes making a once in a lifetime catch we lose that game. Our Defense carried us quite a bit last season and that is not happening this year. Expecting the Defense to always be there to bail out an inconsistent and questionable offense is no way to prepare in the NFL. Instead of looking at the deficiencies that the team had last season and finding ways to make them stronger he sat complacent with what we had since we won the SB and did NOTHING to improve this team. We won a lot of close games the past 2 years by some lucky breaks that rolled our way. This year, we are not getting those same breaks and it shows. I don't think you can stay the same in the NFL or any other business. You either improve or you get worse. It looks to me like the Steelers chose the latter.

[Wig]

You know what I see is simply a philosophy problem. For whatever reason the Steelers just don't have a killer instinct. I can't think of one game this season that they've flat out dominated from whistle to whistle. Every game is a tension-filled stress fest wondering if they're going to let the other team back in or if they're going to give up the winning score in the final seconds.

I love the Steelers, but given their inability to play 'finishing ball', I can't see how they beat the Ravens twice, let alone once. Does anybody have any faith in the offensive gameplan? In the defenses ability to hold Flacco AND the Raven's new toy RB in check throughout the game? We may be statistically high in terms of offensive and defensive ranking, but this team has no ability whatsoever to deal with adversity. It's not just a question of not being able to come back after they get down, it's a question of being able to hold on to a 10, 17 or 21 point lead.

That's on the coaches. They're scared and showing other teams that they can be easily intimidated. How do you call a chicken-shit sweep on 3rd and 2? Any team with balls would have lined up and shoved it down their throats despite the fact that the other team KNEW that's what they were going to do. Not us... We try a fancy sweep. Completely gutless. No faith in the players.

That's what needs to get fixed.

[Spike]

It's not all on the offense either - The D had folded like a cheap suit when we needed them the most late in games.
I saw where the defense has given up like 11 TD's in 10 games - ST's has given up 8.
Start there too.

[JenZwain]

We gave up 7 points on a kick off return. We gave up another 7 points from a INT returned TD, and then another 7 points after a 92 yard INT return and eventual TD.

21 freaking points off of turn overs!

Ben has got to do a better job managing the football. Throwing into 4 defenders is never a good idea.

I wonder if his head isn't messed up? He has thrown so many passes short this season. Is he concussed? Does he need glasses? Is his shoulder/arm injured? We really have no deep ball threat over 35/40 yards.

[warriors42]

I try not to get to emotional after a loss, and start bitching about players and or coaches, BUT, this team has lost its mojo, and that my friends is 90% on the coaches. Ya Tomlin might bench a player here and there but there is more to coaching then that. there is no fire in this man, Now none of us know what goes on in the locker room, or at practice, but I find it hard to believe the he shows any fire there when he can't show it during the heat of battle.

the fact that this organization is and has been the best run in all pro sports, and it is a known fact that they will let a head coach stick around till the bitter end, But could this be our downfall? I mean EVERY coach in the nfl would give his left nut to be in the burgh, one reason is job security. now I am not suggesting we fire Tomlin, but the fact of the matter is, this is not the steelers of old. the Rooneys are in debt up to thier eye balls right now, and I have lost count of how many "investors" there are. fact of the matter is we NEED to win right now so we don't fall into the trap of some of the other teams out there.

IMHO I think what needs to happen is a heart to heart with MT, Dan, and Art jr, and Dan, and Art need to get control of MT, and let him know some changes need to be made, IE: OC, and ST coaches. A coach is no Different from any other management job, your job is to prepare, train, and hold those that work for you accountable for the type of performance the give, and if need be make changes, And I do not see where Tomlin is doing these things..

[Lloyds legend]

We must get back to wearing down opposing defenses. Don't get me wrong it's nice to have the passing game but you've got to keep it on the ground with Mendy hit them in the fucking mouth and drag their sorry asses back on the field for more punishment. Special teams are a joke and we got zero consistency, I haven't given up hope but Hines is right we need to turn this thing around and play Steelers football.

[Spike]

I don't see anyone blaming Wallace for that boneheaded turnover after a big catch, that killed a drive too.

[steel shinin]

The coaches should be called out........and a guy like Hines can and will because he's been there and knows what it takes. It's gut check time for everybody, coaches included. They know what needs to be done, and they'll get it done. Mike Tomlin has not lost his team......not if a guy like Andy Reid can go out and choke every fuckin year. Tomlin is a no excuses type of guy.....I think that much is obvious so we'll see.

[SteelAddiction]

We gave up 7 points on a kick off return. We gave up another 7 points from a INT returned TD, and then another 7 points after a 92 yard INT return and eventual TD.

21 freaking points off of turn overs!

Ben has got to do a better job managing the football. Throwing into 4 defenders is never a good idea.

I wonder if his head isn't messed up? He has thrown so many passes short this season. Is he concussed? Does he need glasses? Is his shoulder/arm injured? We really have no deep ball threat over 35/40 yards.

You are still a fucking idiot. The first INT was NOT returned for a TD. the second INT did not result in 7 points since they kicked a FG, but don't let facts confuse your arguement.
Maybe this time it will sink into your thick skull, the first INT was on Heath Miller, the secon INT Ben was hit as he was released otherwise it was a TD because Ward was wide open in the back of the endzone. Are you concussed? Do you need glasses? Is your mentally retarded brain injured? You really have no comprehension over 1-2 sentences.

[Lloyds legend]

I don't see anyone blaming Wallace for that boneheaded turnover after a big catch, that killed a drive too.

No doubt, just flat out sloppy play.

[Steelersrule]

On the kickoff that was run back. If this was the first time this happened to the Steelers, yes I blame it on tackling. This was the fourth time in the urt, and last five games. We have two Special teams coaches. Why the hell can they not figure out the right people to put in for Special teams???

Bruce Arians Offense got Ben hurt and our backup QB gone for the season., plus we had to eat another loss. I am all for finding a new OC

[steelcan58]

I don't see anyone blaming Wallace for that boneheaded turnover after a big catch, that killed a drive too.

I think pretty well the whole team is being called out for this one. Which brings it all back to the coaching staff and especially Tomlin. If it is that many players having an off day it means the team was not well prepared, Tomlin admitted as much himself.

My problem is that this isn't the 1st game this has happened this season.We have been unprepared more times than not.

[B.A.B.]

LOL Chad did the same thing after our loss yesterday. Called out the coaches on offensive playcalling, albeit, not that direct. Guess the two aren't so different, eh? eh?

[jasen@cardiostack]

You are still a fucking idiot. The first INT was NOT returned for a TD. the second INT did not result in 7 points since they kicked a FG, but don't let facts confuse your arguement.
Maybe this time it will sink into your thick skull, the first INT was on Heath Miller, the secon INT Ben was hit as he was released otherwise it was a TD because Ward was wide open in the back of the endzone. Are you concussed? Do you need glasses? Is your mentally retarded brain injured? You really have no comprehension over 1-2 sentences.

Son of a bitch you beat me to it. I just read her thing and can't believe how retarded she is. Ben sucks sweed will be a star

[steelcan58]

LOL Chad did the same thing after our loss yesterday. Called out the coaches on offensive playcalling, albeit, not that direct. Guess the two aren't so different, eh? eh?

I think there are a couple of big differences.

Ocho Cinco does it every other week. Hines rarely does this.
Ocho Cinco has won jack shit. Hines has won 2 Super Bowls and has idea what it takes to win.

[z500zag]

Maybe, if we are lucky, the coaches will do an interview next and point out all the mistakes of the players. They could hold a Pay-Per-View and have an out the door locker room brawl.

The money could go to charity.

That is MUCH smarter than talking to the coaches in private and airing things out. The media always helps clear things up faster.


I'm willing to give Hines the benefit of the doubt. Who says he hasn't repeated aired the issue to BA? The players mistakes are obvious and always under a microscope, once in a while a veteran needs to say something that needs to be said. Coaches have giant egos and it's hard for them to see their own failings. Sometimes a mild criticism can be an eye-opener -- and this staff (and players) need an eye-opener.

[Caligula]

Maybe Hines should go to practice and catch balls instead of shooting off at the mouth.

[z500zag]

Funny that people think we need to run Mendy more. I was hoping we'd stop running on 1st. We had several good 5 yard runs on 1st down. The problem is that 2nd and 4 or 5 *always* resulted in a follow-up run -- and that resulted in 3rd and 3 - 4. That's OK sometimes, but it's hard to sustain a drive when you face 3rd and something 6 times in a row. Those 2nd down runs (except for once) were a waste of a down all game long. We don't have a line that allows us to hand off 8 times in a 14 play drive and score a TD. We need to throw and move in 15 yard chunks, then mix in runs to keep people honest.

I'd like to see BA give Ben the reins for at least 3-4 drives per game -- let him call the plays and execute out of the no huddle. We've almost abandoned the no huddle for 2 straight weeks.

[MT~Forged]

Ben did have a good game except for the few times he refused to throw it away and move on. I was glad to see him use his check downs, they do not show a weakness if you use them. Yes the 80 yard bomb does get the crowd excited, but they fail much more than they work.

How do you bench Mendy for being unprepared yet continue to allow Gay to screw up his assignments.

The problem is that BA has way too many options, feel free to not use them all in a single game. The game plan should include using the hot hand, no matter who it may be at the time.

[Turbo Pig]

We gave up 7 points on a kick off return. We gave up another 7 points from a INT returned TD, and then another 7 points after a 92 yard INT return and eventual TD.

21 freaking points off of turn overs!

Ben has got to do a better job managing the football. Throwing into 4 defenders is never a good idea.

I wonder if his head isn't messed up? He has thrown so many passes short this season. Is he concussed? Does he need glasses? Is his shoulder/arm injured? We really have no deep ball threat over 35/40 yards.

WOW ur an idiot...

We gave up 7 on a KR, 3 on the 90+ INT return... There were no more return points...

[far51]

i hope keanin lewis is progressing rawltliff and gay both suck, townsend is at the end.

[The Drake]

We gave up 7 points on a kick off return. We gave up another 7 points from a INT returned TD, and then another 7 points after a 92 yard INT return and eventual TD.

21 freaking points off of turn overs!

Ben has got to do a better job managing the football. Throwing into 4 defenders is never a good idea.

I wonder if his head isn't messed up? He has thrown so many passes short this season. Is he concussed? Does he need glasses? Is his shoulder/arm injured? We really have no deep ball threat over 35/40 yards.

What game were you watching?

[The Drake]

I don't see anyone blaming Wallace for that boneheaded turnover after a big catch, that killed a drive too.

We'll blame him next year you know when hes not a rookie.

[Pittsburgh]

He got it stripped.. Nice play by the Chiefs. He will now secure the balls, that much tighter, and that wil help us moving forward.

[clinton]

also, lets not forget that the 61 yd pass to chambers doesn't happen, if wood hands could catch the F'n ball!

[The Drake]

also, lets not forget that the 61 yd pass to chambers doesn't happen, if wood hands could catch the F'n ball!

Probably wouldn't have happened either if the fuckin' coaching staff had called a timeout instead of not signaling in the coverage. After that play it seemed like the damn Chiefs knew something was up because it seemed like they lined up pretty quick. Why they didn't call timeout there is beyond stupidity.

[SteelerFan448]

I agree with Dave. There appear to be no reigns on any of the coaches, particularly Arians. Mendenhall is developing into a stud running back and the ball needs to be in his hands.

[DaBurghBoyz7thHVN]

I don't see anyone blaming Wallace for that boneheaded turnover after a big catch, that killed a drive too.


Heath Miller anyone...

[DaBurghBoyz7thHVN]

What game were you watching?

Playing madden maybe?? I dont know how the hell he got those stats...