OK, let's say we get our wish

[Diamond Dave]

Bruce Arians is fired, hired by another team or shot down over Macho Grande. Either way, he's out of here.

Who do you bring in/promote?

Brian Billick? Forget his ties to the Ravens as a head coach. Remember what he did in Minnesota with the Vikings as an OC. Plus, he would have a hard on for Baltimore. Charlie Weiss is gone from Notre Dame after this season.

Who is your guy?

[Superman]

Bruce Arians is fired, hired by another team or shot down over Macho Grande. Either way, he's out of here.

Who do you bring in/promote?

Brian Billick? Forget his ties to the Ravens as a head coach. Remember what he did in Minnesota with the Vikings as an OC. Plus, he would have a hard on for Baltimore. Charlie Weiss is gone from Notre Dame after this season.

Who is your guy?

a shit flinging one-armed monkey from a New Zealand zoo.

[GRBman]

Man, Dave I wish we could have had this conversation a couple years ago when Arians was hired originally...I'd have said Cam Cameron...

I'm not 100% sold on Charlie Weis, but he does have credentials and is a BRILLIANT play-caller. Mike Martz was a very good coordinator and with our receiving corps, would light it up here...

I think you could also take a look at Bill Callahan. Again, shitty head coach but did a great job at OC...just a couple of thoughts, but not 100% on any of them

[Superman]

other than that, i'll dip into the collegiate rank and take Gus Malzahn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Malzahn

[Spike]

Let Charlie Batch call the plays - he's not busy - surely he can flip through the charts without breaking his other arm.

[Vader]

I maybe in the minority but I would love to have Billick. After watching him on several shows, he is very impressive and would love to stick it to the Ravens...

[Southern Steeler]

Chan Gailey.

Imagine what he could do with a QB like Ben.

[SteelAddiction]

I would vote for Billick or even Ken Anderson. Really though, a mental midget would be an upgrade to what we currently have to endure each week.

[ZACKB]

Chan Gailey...

[Diamond Dave]

I'd think twice before letting Anderson move up to OC. That's what he was doing when the Bengals were clocking in with 3 wins per year.

[WoodyHarrison]

Chan Gailey... It would be ironic as he was fired at the KC coordinator just a few months ago.

Who ever they bring needs to do the following:

- find a way to get Dennis Dixon in the game.

Bring back some of the gadget plays that were so effective with Randle El and before him, Kordell etc...

Make the RB Screen a staple of the offense again... Finally, we have a starting RB who can catch... let's use him.

And finally, find me a coordinator who would prefer to beat you running his best play and best players at crunch time instead of trying to out THINK you...

[MT~Forged]

I want ANYONE who will help Ben learn to take what is given and not try to win it on every throw. That and get back to some sense of balance run/pass.

[SteelAddiction]

I'd think twice before letting Anderson move up to OC. That's what he was doing when the Bengals were clocking in with 3 wins per year.

Fair enough and good observation but at the same time what did he really have to work with in Cincy? I can see it both ways but at the same time I can't believe that with the talent this team has on offense that it would be that difficult to keep the ship running straight.

[Lloyds legend]

Hines Ward when he retires of course!

[Spike]

OH - I thought our wish was to fire him tomorrow.

Screw next year - I'm still trying to win NOW.

[Caligula]

Too bad he stayed with MNF.

http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/chucky.jpg

[Diamond Dave]

Too bad he stayed with MNF.

http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/chucky.jpg

He's holding out. Danny Boy is going to throw a blank check at him in the off season.

[Royd92040]

How about promoting Ken Anderson? Let Batch coach the QBs

[hben]

You mean none of the genius offensive minds on this board who apparently know way more than any person actually on a NFL team's payroll aren't already in consideration for the job? I'm shocked.

Y'all realize that Weiss probably isn't going to bring back the fatback, right? He seems to like to throw the ball. And, I've read comments from a few reporters who actually watch the team practice everyday, not just rewatch the most recent game 100 times before the next game is played and think that tells them everything about the team, that they don't think Ben is really all that comfortable throwing screens all day.

[ark steel]

a mental midget would be an upgrade to what we currently have to endure each week.

While probably still an upgrade, I don't want Supe as OC either...

[far51]

Chan Gailey

[Steeler B]

Chan Gailey... It would be ironic as he was fired at the KC coordinator just a few months ago.

Who ever they bring needs to do the following:

- find a way to get Dennis Dixon in the game.

Bring back some of the gadget plays that were so effective with Randle El and before him, Kordell etc...

Make the RB Screen a staple of the offense again... Finally, we have a starting RB who can catch... let's use him.

And finally, find me a coordinator who would prefer to beat you running his best play and best players at crunch time instead of trying to out THINK you...



you know, I've been wondering why we're letting Dixon ROTT on the sidelines....it's crazy to me, to think that we can't find a way, any way, to get this guy on the field.

[Steeler B]

Billick's my guy

Yeah I vote for John Cleese as well.

[Pittsburgh]

Man, Dave I wish we could have had this conversation a couple years ago when Arians was hired originally...I'd have said Cam Cameron...

I'm not 100% sold on Charlie Weis, but he does have credentials and is a BRILLIANT play-caller. Mike Martz was a very good coordinator and with our receiving corps, would light it up here...

I think you could also take a look at Bill Callahan. Again, shitty head coach but did a great job at OC...just a couple of thoughts, but not 100% on any of them
Charlie WIESS??!??

KK Thanks for posting. Now i know who to write off when i see their name posting.

Excellent. I am all about efficiency.

Losses make it easy lol.

Does this Board have an Ignore Feature? That would be good. A couple people i can't stand already on here. And it's only been a few days.

[Steeler Nation]

You mean none of the genius offensive minds on this board who apparently know way more than any person actually on a NFL team's payroll aren't already in consideration for the job? I'm shocked.

So, you think there's only 32 people in the world qualified to hold the position?

[ronburgundy]

How about promoting Ken Anderson? Let Batch coach the QBs
That would be my first choice.
Mike Shanahan might be interested in a job that involves slightly throttling back from being HC.

[Pittsburgh]

Charlie Coach our QB's???
Ummm.. No...
Bring me in Troy Aikmen, or Joe Montana or something.

[USDA#1]

I got no problems giving it to Anderson.....a QB from the "call your own plays era", and he was good at it.....just outta curiousity, who were his QB's when he was winning 3 games as the Bungles OC?

[OhioSteel]

a shit flinging one-armed monkey from a New Zealand zoo.

LMAO Thats f-n funny. Well done Supe!

[USDA#1]

I got no problems giving it to Anderson.....a QB from the "call your own plays era", and he was good at it.....just outta curiousity, who were his QB's when he was winning 3 games as the Bungles OC?

Jeff Blake, a washed big bags Boomer, Neil O'Donnel, Akilli Smith, Doug Pelfry.

the defense rests in the case of Mr. Anderson, your Honor.

[OhioSteel]

I maybe in the minority but I would love to have Billick. After watching him on several shows, he is very impressive and would love to stick it to the Ravens...

Same hear. I look forward to his analysis on the NFL Network.

[hben]

So, you think there's only 32 people in the world qualified to hold the position?

Sort of, but my point actually is that no matter who the OC is for this team, there will always be yinzers who feel they, or someone else, could do a much better job. If that were true, then they wouldn't be typing away on an internet message board. They would be on a team's payroll.

[Aries1247]

Fuck cheating Charlie Weiss or anyone else affiliated with the Belicheat coaching tree. It will be nice to outwardly root for ND again once he's gone. I'd be open to Chan or even Bildick, maybe even Norv if he somehow ends up unemployed after this season.

[jmat]

Put Dick LeBeau out to pasture. His defense sucks ass and can't hold a double digit lead this year and can't create turnovers.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Chan Gailey... It would be ironic as he was fired at the KC coordinator just a few months ago.

Who ever they bring needs to do the following:

- find a way to get Dennis Dixon in the game.

Bring back some of the gadget plays that were so effective with Randle El and before him, Kordell etc...

Make the RB Screen a staple of the offense again... Finally, we have a starting RB who can catch... let's use him.

And finally, find me a coordinator who would prefer to beat you running his best play and best players at crunch time instead of trying to out THINK you...

Mike Mularkey,is that you?

[Pittsburgh]

Put Labeau what???

Dude. Don't push it.

A Smith done, Troy, Done. We have crap at Backup for safeties, and we need another CB.

We are STILL tearing people up. ZIggy Hood, has come in and performed very highly.

Watch your mouth.

[Turbo Pig]

Chan Gailey or Charlie Weiss

[Steelersguy]

Chan Gailey or Charlie Weiss

I vote Ditka

[steelcan58]

Kent Austin - OC at Ole Miss.

[BAS]

I can't see Billick coming back to the league for an OC role... not one bit, but I'd take him over Weiss any day.

[Milkman Dan]

Billick. I think he would have a field day with an offense that boasts Ben, Ward, Holmes, Wallace, Miller, Mendy, and maybe he can get our Oline to kick it up a notch to boot.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Sure would have been nice to have Wiz calling the plays again.....

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

What no call to dig up Ron Erhardt's bones......?

[GoSteelers]

how about this? a darts professional. just throw a dart and whatever play in ends up hitting, run it!
1st and ten, throw the dart, whoops we have to punt!

[Pittsburgh]

It would be a nice transition for him. Come on board for 1 year. and move back into a vacant coaching position. Oakland, MAybe houston if they crumble, Maybe the Browns after next year. Carolina could potentially open up in a year, or less.

If he would check his Ego at the door, and do it Tomlin's way... I would love to have him.

If he is acting like a know it all, and rubbing people the wrong way.. We don't need him. I think he is very bright. But i don't want him thinking he should be in charge. He needs to know his role.

Tomlin will interview him. As well as the Rooney's. They will know whats best.

[Confluence]

Jim Zorn.....

[clinton]

I like Billick.
also, I'll throw Jim Harbaughs name out there

[Steel Ballin]

Fuck Billick. Anyone who had Randy Moss on their team isn't an option. Moss could even make BA look like he knew what he was doing.

[FSF]

Why on Earth would anyone believe that a coach with a Super Bowl ring is going to go back to being an Offensive Coordinator?

All a moot point, Arians will be back next year.

[Pittsburgh]

NO way Jim Zorn. That dude is SOFT. I dont want him anywhere Near Big Ben.

NO WHERE NEAR HIM!.

There is one more guy i can ignore.
You saving me precious moments here fellas! Keep Postin'!

[Caligula]

Mark Whipple.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/mifl/sports/m-footbl/auto_headshot/3371427.jpeg

[Steeler B]

Jim Zorn is light in the loafers.

[The Drake]

Pretty simple dig up Chan Gailey wherever he is. He made freakin' Kordell Stewart look good at times imagine what he would do with Ben.

[GoSteelers]

Steve Addazio, florida gators OC and O line coach
gailey, and ?

[Diamond Dave]

That would be my first choice.
Mike Shanahan might be interested in a job that involves slightly throttling back from being HC.

Shanny is going to the Bills

[JEFFRO]

While I am not the foremost authority on Offensive Coordinators.

My ideal would be to find somebody fresh, a college OC.

Other than Billick, all the other names listed above get me sick to my stomach! And Billick is nobody's pool boy! He will be a HC next year if he so chooses!

[Diamond Dave]

Fuck Billick. Anyone who had Randy Moss on their team isn't an option. Moss could even make BA look like he knew what he was doing.

Are you shitting me? The was the year the Vikings ran up 40 some points on teams before they even got warmed up.

[scstillerfan]

1. Billick
2. Gailey
3. Shit flinging one-armed monkey

[Steel Ballin]

Are you shitting me? The was the year the Vikings ran up 40 some points on teams before they even got warmed up.

Yes....thanks to RM not Billik. How good was the Ravens O under Billik?

[CAH]

Sure wish Norv Turner wasn't a head coach b/c he'd be great at that job. I like Ken Anderson but not as a OC.

[Diamond Dave]

Yes....thanks to RM not Billik. How good was the Ravens O under Billik?

Was he the OC?

[Tibs]

Steve Sarkisian- Head Coach, Washington Huskies
Joe Lombardi- QB Coach New Orleans
Terry Malone- TE Coach New Orleans
Tom Clements- QB Coach Packers
Ken Anderson QB Coach Steelers
Bryan Harsin- Offensive Coordinator, Boise State
Brian Kelly- Head Coach, Cincinnati Bearcats
Darrel Bevell- Offensive Coordinator, Minnesota Vikings

[jasen@cardiostack]

Steve Sarkisian- Head Coach, Washington Huskies
Joe Lombardi- QB Coach New Orleans
Terry Malone- TE Coach New Orleans
Tom Clements- QB Coach Packers
Ken Anderson QB Coach Steelers
Bryan Harsin- Offensive Coordinator, Boise State
Brian Kelly- Head Coach, Cincinnati Bearcats
Darrel Bevell- Offensive Coordinator, Minnesota Vikings

really like clements and kelly. but i dont see anyway kelly takes a coordinator job. he is inline to get a bigtime hc job in college if he wants it and thats a much more secure stress free job

[cowherjaw]

It doesn't matter as long as they bring back the fullback, run 55% or more of the time, draft offensive lineman in the first 2 rounds and turn Ben back into a game manager. Then YinzerNation will be back in their comfort zone.

[ark steel]

I want one that will come in and design an offense that fits the players he has not try to fit the players into a pre-designed offense.

[Southern Steeler]

I want one that will come in and design an offense that fits the players he has not try to fit the players into a pre-designed offense.

That's a hare-brained idea.....but by golly it just might work!!!

[Steel Ballin]

Was he the OC?

I'm sure, being the offensive genius everyone thinks he is, that he and his OC could have worked things out.

[Buff]

As a couple people have already said, Billick is too much of an egomaniac to leave his analyst roles at Fox and NFL Network to get back into the league as a OC. Ditto for Gruden. And Shanahan not only wants to be a HC again, he wants total control. Good luck.

Realistically, I would take Chan Gailey. No way I would promote Ken Anderson or hire a college guy

[Buff]

Was he the OC?

He was during his last year after he canned his buddy Fassel. But he already lost his team long before that anyway

[hook]

Fuck Weiss. They'd have to charter another jet just to get his fat ass from game to game. Offensive genius? Wasn't Jimmy Claussen one of the most highly recruited QB's in a long time? He's sure turned out well under fat ass' tuteledge.

I'd like to bring back Chan.

[cement head]

piece of cardboard and a fathead of Ron Erhardt and let Ben call the plays, can't be that much worse

[SteelerFan448]

Mark Whipple.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/mifl/sports/m-footbl/auto_headshot/3371427.jpeg

He's done great with Miami in the games that I got to see.

[chasing seven]

Steve Addazio, florida gators OC and O line coach
gailey, and ?
Sorry, but Florida's offense is over rated. The spread option sucks and won't last in the real league. Addazio is having a hard time with collegiate players. What makes you think he will be succesful here? H e is in his first year as a OC ever. Sorry but that offense sucks.

[chasing seven]

Bobby Bowden? <sarcasm>

[Tulsa]

other than that, i'll dip into the collegiate rank and take Gus Malzahn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Malzahn

Hey guys. Lifelong Steeler fan born and raised here in Arkansas. I never post, my first time. But I had to post on this. I realize this won't happen. But Gus is a good friend of mine. I just thought it was cool to all of the sudden see him name in this thread.

He did start the "wildcat" and even named it so. It wasn't David Lee at Miami. Lee is from Arkansas too and got it from Gus. Not stealing, just copying.

Anyway, love the board. I'm fighting the good fight down here in Dallas Cowboy country. Don't want to derail a thread. Just wanted to put my toe in the water.

[mightyguru]

This place has gone shithouse-rat-crazy since the new board was put up.

Man, I loved Gailey back in the day. I don't know about Billick...he's genius you know...and an arrogant fuck that I couldn't stand. But...he sure convinces me when I see him on 212.

[stillafan]

In my preferred order:

1. Mike Mularkey (I know he's currently OC for Atlanta--can we get him by offering him a promo to Asst. Head Coach?)
2. Jim Zorn (he's done in Wash)
3. Mark Whipple (OC at Miami)
4. Tom Clements (Packers QB coach)
5. Kevin Gilbride

[omar10213245]

What no call to dig up Ron Erhardt's bones......?

erhardt's dead?

[Superman]

I want one that will come in and design an offense that fits the players he has not try to fit the players into a pre-designed offense.


so you vote for the shit-flinging one-armed monkey

[Steelersrule]

If we are saying today, I go with Chan Gailey.

If after the season is over, I want to see who gets the axe first.

[ronburgundy]

If we are saying today, I go with Chan Gailey.

If after the season is over, I want to see who gets the axe first.
If I was a betting man, I'd say no one.

[Thorndike]

I say we just stay at the line and tell everyone to get open.

[cowherjaw]

I love it that people are calling for Jim Zorn. Look at that Redskins offense go.

[elfiero]

What's Ernie Zampese doing? He knows how to run an offense, the bad thing is he's probably pushing 80 by now.
Gailey, Turner, anyone. A retarded baboon can do better than Mr. "Lets see what we can pull out of the grab bag of plays"

[dasimp01]

No doubt Chan Gailey, and since that probably means that porn-stash Larry is gone as well, I'll bet you we could lure Rick Dennison away from Denver to coach the OL, he's a disciple of Alex Gibbs and while he's not the best in the game, he sure as hell is light years better than the buffoon we currently have.

[Superman]

we need an OC who can divide by zero.

[Stlrs4Life]

Chan Gailey.......................

[TC237]

Frank Cignetti Jr

[Super Dave]

Hey guys. Lifelong Steeler fan born and raised here in Arkansas. I never post, my first time. But I had to post on this. I realize this won't happen. But Gus is a good friend of mine. I just thought it was cool to all of the sudden see him name in this thread.

He did start the "wildcat" and even named it so. It wasn't David Lee at Miami. Lee is from Arkansas too and got it from Gus. Not stealing, just copying.

Anyway, love the board. I'm fighting the good fight down here in Dallas Cowboy country. Don't want to derail a thread. Just wanted to put my toe in the water.

Welcome to the board Tulsa.....

Are there any Zoos in Tulsa/Northwest Arkansas area that have one armed shit flinging monkeys?

[Tulsa]

Welcome to the board Tulsa.....

Are there any Zoos in Tulsa/Northwest Arkansas area that have one armed shit flinging monkeys?

1 armed? I'll go back and check.

[GoSteelers]

I love it that people are calling for Jim Zorn. Look at that Redskins offense go.

remember, danny 'boy' snyder took the offensive play calling away from zorn a few weeks ago.

[bigtwnvin]

Billick is on record as saying "give me 22 Hines Wards and I'll beat you any day in any game"!

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

erhardt's dead?

It was a facetious statement.......

[jmat]

People want a change of OC just for the sake of change. Because you don't like the way he calls the game.

Ben seems to like BA. Tomlin apparently is happy with BA.

Someone should look up how the Steelers have done since Bruce Arians became the Steelers OC.

I'm really glad the message board know it alls aren't running the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Parasite]

People want a change of OC just for the sake of change. Because you don't like the way he calls the game.

Ben seems to like BA. Tomlin apparently is happy with BA.

Someone should look up how the Steelers have done since Bruce Arians became the Steelers OC.

I'm really glad the message board know it alls aren't running the Pittsburgh Steelers.


Someone should look up how the Steelers did with Mitch Berger as their punter. We should've kept him too right? As for Ben really liking him, well Ben is quickly approaching vegetable territory with the amount of hits he's taken.

[Spike]

I bet Martyball Schottenheimer can be coaxed to return.

[ark steel]

Welcome to the board Tulsa.....

Are there any Zoos in Tulsa/Northwest Arkansas area that have one armed shit flinging monkeys?

That is most of the state population. Could you be more specific?

[Drink IRON City]

I would vote for Billick or even Ken Anderson. Really though, a mental midget would be an upgrade to what we currently have to endure each week.



See super man's post above



Salute the nation

[famlife]

weiss is my pick

[famlife]

but it wont happen

[Sluzilla]

wasn't weiss' success during the spygate years?...just saying...

[SteelChip]

Let Charlie Batch call the plays - he's not busy - surely he can flip through the charts without breaking his other arm.

LOL........that's a classic Spike !

[Vader]

wasn't weiss' success during the spygate years?...just saying...

Yes, which means he probably still has the tapes...

[Spike]

LOL........that's a classic Spike !



...and still I get no karma

[Pittsburgh]

You a Pimp Spike.

Automatic Bad Karma.

And most likely a case of the Aids. or the Herpes.

[Decleater]

What the hey? Promote Ken Anderson. If he would coach the O anything like he played O we'd be alright IMO.

[Awesome-o]

niether. chan gailey.

[Edreed4prez]

Billick is not an offensive mastermind, he had Randy moss before the league knew what Randy could do. Billick was over-hyped from the jump. So in short, I hope he becomes the steelers OC.

[hvykvy]

[QUOTE=SteelAddiction;4000]Fair enough and good observation but at the same time what did he really have to work with in Cincy?
You can say the same thing about Arians in Cleveland and look how that turned out.

[Rod Farva]

What's Joe Walton up to these days?

[markymarc]

I would love to see Brian Billick or Chain Gailey as our next OC.

[tjack]

No thanks to video taping Charlie Weiss.

Now Chan Gailey, I don't know? He did wonders with Kordell Stewart in the NFL back in the day but couldn't help the Ga.Tech football team or his star QB Reggie Ball make it to the next level. Careful for what you ask for with Chan.

[scrapdog]

1. Darrell Bevell MIN OC
Worked with Mike Tomlin previously. Knows how to run the ball, use a QBs talent.

2. Ken Anderson QBs Coach PIT
And give Charlie Batch his old job (if he retires).

3. Turner Gill HC & OC Buffalo University
Turned that program around, but will have trouble making Buffalo a legit team, because it's such a small school.

4. Chan Gailey KC OC
Came up with PIT, WRs Coach 94-95, OC 96-97, PIT won the division all four of these years. Took Neil O' Donnell & Co. to a SB, too.

5. Joe Lombardi, NO Quarterbacks Coach
Big part of that NO Offense's success. Not that it really matters, he's Vince's grandson.

[Bluesteel]

Bruce Arians is fired, hired by another team or shot down over Macho Grande. Either way, he's out of here.

Who do you bring in/promote?

Brian Billick? Forget his ties to the Ravens as a head coach. Remember what he did in Minnesota with the Vikings as an OC. Plus, he would have a hard on for Baltimore. Charlie Weiss is gone from Notre Dame after this season.

Who is your guy?

Hey! After tonight's Giants/Denver game, maybe Kevin Gilbride will be available... maybe they should bring him back! Lets bring back Slash, too since we can't rely on Batch anymore. Gilbride and Stewart could bring us our next championship... like we thought they would years ago! Or maybe the players that won the S.B. last year will realize the talent on their team and play up to their ability!!!!!!!! There is no excuse for the way they have played this year... period!

[obxsteeler]

There are about 10 fans on the board who are obviously so much smarter than Arians that the only problem would be picking one. All we would need is the NFL permission to call the plays the next day. Would Billick and Weis come with Randy Moss who was sort of a key to their success? Maybe we could get Gillbride back from the Giant's after last night. Coaches don't make plays-they put players in position to make plays. It's interesting to see how few real coices the Arian's haters really have. Be careful what you wish for.

[khruuton]

I guess the parameters are these two contestants. lol With that said I would choose Bilick. I'm not a fan of his personality but he does know his stuff. Perhaps with the pressure of HC off his shoulders he'd be a tame son of a gun on the field. I also think he'd be willing to have his offense match the Steelers style of play. A hard nosed run game balanced with the passing attack.

Charlie Weiss IMO will forever be tainted with Spygate. He's really done zippo since those days. And with the ability to pull in major talent with Notre Dame's FB program, I expected more from his abilities. If he really had them. ;o)

Bilick it is given the two choices.

[cowherjaw]

What short memories we have! When was the last time you feared the Baltimore offense in as long as Billick was there??? But hey, he had a good year over a decade ago, he must be our best option...LOL.

[SteelChip]

...and still I get no karma

There ya go.......who loves ya Spike

[Drexel]

Oh, I would say that any of the experts here would work, being they are all knowing. can't swing a dead cat here without hitting an expert.

[fogdoctor]

Norm Chow or Chan Gailey.

[60 MINUTES]

Charlie. Pleas let it be Charlie. For many reasons. One Tomlin wants to be the Pats O and though I hate the shit out of pats I would love to have our O put up some of those numbers ( minus the cheating of course ) number two Charlie can take BEN up even another level, he seems to be great with QB's. Number Three after his Head Coaching start has went in the ground he would not be offered another HC job for a long time. It would be a chance to have a good OC for quite a few years even if we are kicking butt, I bet most teams stay away from offering a HC position to him for quite some time. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner baby.

[Eastshoresteelerfan]

Billick wins, He IS a mastermind.

[markymarc]

Let's just make Ben the starting QB and OC!

[khruuton]

I would certainly prefer Chan Gailey above either of the options. But given just those 2 as the options, I would take Bilick over Weiss.

[Hines57]

In the immortal words of one Al Davis, "Norvell Turner"

Of course he needs to be fired from San Diego first. Great coordinator, shitty head coach.

[coupon]

Cheatin' Joe Dumbrowstaboggan

[ZACKB]

Charlie Weiss...he was just fired...

[ZACKB]

Which Offensive Coordinator's will be available in the offseason that we would legitimately get? No, we won't get Charlie Weiss. Who is dynamic and has a good reputation?, no...not Gailey.

[Turbo Pig]

Well you eliminated the two best candidates

[Teal 37]

How about some college coach guy named Whipple... I seem to remember him from somewhere.

[Steel Ballin]

per Sup - A one-armed shit slinging monkey will do.

[GoSteelers]

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewCFSE.asp?selposition=2

[SteelAddiction]

Please NO college OC's that think you can run the same schemes in the NFL that you can in college.

[va_steelman]

I'm not convinced Weis is anything to write home about, unless he has the defensive signals written on his play calling chart covering his fat mouth.

[Milkman Dan]

I think if we have a new OC next year it will be a position coach that none of us have ever heard of.

[Vader]

Really could anybody be much worse? Has anyone done less with as much talent as BA? I'm no football expert but even I can tell the offense has no identity and is built on Ben just being Ben... which is a horrible offensive philosophy.

[moetec]

get Cower get someone in here that can make changes! we have to score. our plays are not designed to attack. we have to attack and score. PLAYOFFS! PLAYOOFFS!

[Litos]

The rooneys have to fire BA, there is no other option, if there's a positive from this meltdown is that there are no more excuses to keep him. If we had gone to the playoffs you can bet he would stay at least 1-2 more years.
His firing means the steelers have a chance to another SB title with Big Ben, cause you dont know how many more hits he could take with this shitty playcalling.

[60 MINUTES]

Charlie is the guy. We really do need him.. He has proven that he is a OC that is a QB guy. He could take BEN to the next level. BEN is already probowl material but Charile can take him to the HOF for sure. A lot of players can't stand to hear this but it really is about coaching. Phins 1 - 15 bring in Bill P and your in the playoffs with pretty much the same guys. Yes you need some players here and there but thats also what good coaches do. They have a way of knowing which spot you need that player. Now some coaches are not made to pick the players and thats where they get hurt however they are made to teach the player. Charlie W. John Gruden, Andy Reid, Mike H. and Mike Shan. Are guys that take your QB to the next level. Of that list the only one we have a chance to get to be O Coord is Charlie.

[60 MINUTES]

Just to add to this more. I will take it a step futher. If not for some of these guys history would be different. has anyone ever paid attention to the old films where Mike hol. basically made Brett F. Brett was a guy with toughness and a big arm but Mike H made him who he is. Without Mike I think Brett could have been another Jeff George, or Jay Cutler. A talent but not a HOF GOD QB. It really is cool to watch how Mike taught him. Now once Brett learned it he didn't need Mike anymore.

How about Rich Gannon. who was a sub average QB all his life for the chiefs, heck he split time there I think. He comes to the Radiers and John Gruden who is a QB guru makes him a PRO BOWL MVP type QB for a couple of years.

The Gruden shows the world that Rich is nothing but a guy running exactly what he taught him. cause the next year his Bucs were standing in the spot Rich was gonna throw it all night long ( and the bucs didn't have to cheat to achieve this )

McNabb would have been out of the league with kordell, vince young, whatever the guys name was in Dallas Tee ? and of course Mike Vick who was the best Running QB we have seen. Anyway McNabb gone in 5 years or less if you take away Andy Reid who is a QB guru. All these guys are from bill Walsh who produced maybe our greatest QB in Joe Montana, and lets not forget the HOF great Steve young who was a Running QB and pretty much was sucking until he got to walsh and the those guys who made him.

Again the Players can't stand to hear this but its all about coaching. Yes you need talent but you will piss iit away if someone doesn't show you how to use it.

Look how great BEN is with this freaking guy, could you think of how great he may be with a proven OC

[Jack Tripper]

Just to add to this more. I will take it a step futher. If not for some of these guys history would be different. has anyone ever paid attention to the old films where Mike hol. basically made Brett F. Brett was a guy with toughness and a big arm but Mike H made him who he is. Without Mike I think Brett could have been another Jeff George, or Jay Cutler. A talent but not a HOF GOD QB. It really is cool to watch how Mike taught him. Now once Brett learned it he didn't need Mike anymore.

How about Rich Gannon. who was a sub average QB all his life for the chiefs, heck he split time there I think. He comes to the Radiers and John Gruden who is a QB guru makes him a PRO BOWL MVP type QB for a couple of years.

The Gruden shows the world that Rich is nothing but a guy running exactly what he taught him. cause the next year his Bucs were standing in the spot Rich was gonna throw it all night long ( and the bucs didn't have to cheat to achieve this )

McNabb would have been out of the league with kordell, vince young, whatever the guys name was in Dallas Tee ? and of course Mike Vick who was the best Running QB we have seen. Anyway McNabb gone in 5 years or less if you take away Andy Reid who is a QB guru. All these guys are from bill Walsh who produced maybe our greatest QB in Joe Montana, and lets not forget the HOF great Steve young who was a Running QB and pretty much was sucking until he got to walsh and the those guys who made him.

Again the Players can't stand to hear this but its all about coaching. Yes you need talent but you will piss iit away if someone doesn't show you how to use it.

Look how great BEN is with this freaking guy, could you think of how great he may be with a proven OC

Wasn't Ken Anderson from the Bill Walsh school, as well? Maybe he doesn't have the input within the offense or maybe he's doing a poor job. I certainly don't know, but it'd be interesting to know how much of a role he's playing or is expected to play with Ben.

[Dreamman0]

Im not sure who I would choose but I know what I qualities Id be looking for.

1) a coach who understands how to design and execute a running game (and play-action off of that)

2) a coach who gameplans according to the opponent's weaknesses

3) a coach who can motivate players to perform, either through positive or negative means

4) a coach who believes in the use of a fullback

[Hines57]

In the spirit of 5 WIDE, Mike Martz.

[ronburgundy]

I'd make Ken Anderson OC and tell Charlie Batch it's time to retire from playing and become the QB coach.

[TC237]

Is time to fire up FlightAware.com and start tracking Rooney planes again ??

[Penguins Fan]

I like the guy that was the Chargers' OC in 2006, Rob Chudzinski. He coached the Brownstains' Derek Anderson to a good season in 2007.
Before anyone launches on him being with the Brownstains, so were Cowher, DL coach John Mitchell and Chuck Noll, for that matter.

Arians is terrible. The Steelers have a lot of offensive talent and it is wasted. Maybe Ben needs an OC that he doesn't like so well because everyone needs a kick in the ass - even Ben. Ben's habit of scrambling in the backfield instead of throwing the ball away - or tucking in the ball and running it himself - annoys the hell out of me.

[Hines57]

Arians was also a former Browns OC. I wouldn't mind them interviewing the guy (Chudzinski). Its a positive to talk to someone with division experience and also with a rival AFC team in San Diego

[TC237]

BA's problem (one of them?) is that he talks about wanting the "Colts" offense yet does nothing similar to the Colts, other then a single RB.
No screens or draws against the blitz, etc...

[NYSteel]

He's 77 years old right now, but I'd be thrilled with Ron Erhardt.

[ben#7]

Bruce Arians is fired, hired by another team or shot down over Macho Grande. Either way, he's out of here.

Who do you bring in/promote?

Brian Billick? Forget his ties to the Ravens as a head coach. Remember what he did in Minnesota with the Vikings as an OC. Plus, he would have a hard on for Baltimore. Charlie Weiss is gone from Notre Dame after this season.

Who is your guy?

Charlie Batch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or Ken Anderson

[crimsonsteel]

I've always liked Chan Gailey's sense of balance and propensity for a well timed trick play. I was really surprised to see him let go earlier this year. Who would you like to see replace BA and any others who are potentially on their way out?

[steelhurt]

OC my choice would be Brian Billick or Mike Mularky. SP would be Bobby April but that won't happen. I think he had a chance to come back but turned the Steelers down. Don't know what was up with that.

[Turbo Pig]

You have to wonder who is going to line up to coach under Tomlin

[Steeltime]

Diamond Dave started this discussion about three weeks ago.

http://www.steelernation.com/forums/showthread.php?194-OK-let-s-say-we-get-our-wish

[Rod Farva]

IIRC, Mularkey's departure was pretty welcomed by fans, no? I have always liked Chan and think he might be the guy......good relationship w/ the Rooneys, again IIRC.

As far as coaching under Tomlin, I'm not sure why that would be viewed as a negative by an prospective assistant. Tomlin's mo up to this point seemes to be kind of hands off.......to a fault

[crimsonsteel]

Diamond Dave started this discussion about three weeks ago.

http://www.steelernation.com/forums/showthread.php?194-OK-let-s-say-we-get-our-wish


Sorry I missed that. The difference here is that Dave only addressed O Coordinator, I'm asking about changes across the board in the coaching staff. Dave, or mods feel free to merge the threads if you wish.

[elfiero]

OC my choice would be Brian Billick or Mike Mularky. SP would be Bobby April but that won't happen. I think he had a chance to come back but turned the Steelers down. Don't know what was up with that.

I like Billick he's a sharp guy who built a team very much modeled after the Steelers, the problem is his ego. He hasn't been an OC for about 10 years, I doubt he would want to be one again but who knows.

[CAH]

I was certainly glad to be rid of Mularky once and don't want him back now. Two gadget plays, back to back, is a little much. He assumed defenses were stupid.

[dasimp01]

Mularkey was full of, well, Mularkey, absolutely no thank you. I'd probably choose Chan Gailey, but he has to get control of BR, be a hard-ass to him, tell him that they will do things HIS way, not what Ben likes or wants.

[60 MINUTES]

After watching Denver play today some, and I also watched the Pats who are both running the same thing 100 percent of what they use to with Charlie W. I have to say I may change my mind on bringing in Charlie. why?? simple I think we need to run the ball in December and play Steeler football. Play action and get back to doing what we do. you can still be a Passing team but you need balance. Norv Turner with the Cowboys in the 90's . I think it fits the Steelers alot better then all the shotgun formations that Charile W likes to operate out of.

Either way it won't matter just so long as BA is gone.

[denobrien]

I also like Chan Gailey think he would bring back the run, and let him pick his line coach.

[MillerTime83]

Haven't read this so I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this.

I'd consider bringing Tom Clements, our old quarterback coach. I remember hearing rumors back when Mularky went to Buffalo that the Steelers were upset when Clements went with him to be offensive coordinator cause they felt he was a top candidate to replace him as their own OC. Obviously things didn't really work out for him in Buffalo, but he's quarterback coach in Green Bay right now and deserves a lot of credit for his bringing along of Aaron Rodgers who has turned into a pretty good qb...

I don't see the Steelers going after a high profile coordinator; somebody like Clements seems right up there alley.

[elfiero]

Haven't read this so I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this.

I'd consider bringing Tom Clements, our old quarterback coach. I remember hearing rumors back when Mularky went to Buffalo that the Steelers were upset when Clements went with him to be offensive coordinator cause they felt he was a top candidate to replace him as their own OC. Obviously things didn't really work out for him in Buffalo, but he's quarterback coach in Green Bay right now and deserves a lot of credit for his bringing along of Aaron Rodgers who has turned into a pretty good qb...

I don't see the Steelers going after a high profile coordinator; somebody like Clements seems right up there alley.

Wasn't Clements Kordells coach? I vaguely remember him. Has he ever been an OC before?

[MillerTime83]

Wasn't Clements Kordells coach? I vaguely remember him. Has he ever been an OC before?

He was the quarterback coach for both Kordell and Maddox, turning both of them into pro bowlers during his tenure.

He was an OC for Buffalo, didn't do great but had nothing to work with. I really like how Rodgers has turned out under him and see some similarities between him and Ben. Green Bay has had a pretty brutal offensive line all year but they've started to move Rodgers around a lot (imagine that! offensive adjustments as the season goes on!!!)

[crimsonsteel]

That's correct about Clements. I think he was our first QB coach too. For years, Cowher didn't use one. Mark Whipple was Ben's first QB coach.

[Teal 37]

Since they both have a recent history with the Steelers (unlike Chan... he isn't recent) both Clements & Whipple should be strongly considered as the OC replacement. Hell, even the one-armed shit-slinging monkey would be an improvement over Airhead.

[GoSteelers]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clements


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Whipple

[Teal 37]

So much for Whipple... MT let him go as QB Coach when MT took over in Jan07.

[StuartSteelerFan]

I'd be thrilled with Billick as OC if he were really interested in coming in as an assistant to Tomlin, but I just don't see that being realistic... a guy with his credentials and football acumen doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would want to be anything less than head coach. For the money, he's probably better off remaining a TV analyst. Has he expressed any recent interest in getting back into coaching at any level?

Anti-Baltimore prejudice aside, he's smart, articulate and as far as I can tell, a good disciplinarian. Those are qualities we could really have used on offense this year, none of which Arians possesses. He definitely comes across as the kind of coach you don't want to have pissed off at you, as opposed to Tomlin who has proved his bark is worse than his bite, what with all the threats about starters losing their jobs and never following through (at least not until all playoff hopes were lost). The only good bit of motivation Tomlin accomplished all year was when he benched Mendenhall for that one week and got him to get his head back in the game.

[SteelerSask]

Kent Austin - OC at Ole Miss.
Well played my Canadian friend. One year as a head coach in the CFL and he took a team that hadn't won a title for 18 years to the promise land. I'll be watching the Cotton Bowl very closely. That is my pick right there!!

[hvykvy]

As well as someone who will develop an offense that use the strengths of the players he's got rather than trying to force players into a system. One who is more concerned with doing what is working rather than trying to be the star.

[BermudaSteel]

I mentioned Charlie Weiss when I knew he was about to be fired - and most everyone shot the idea down....I've always loved Chan Gailey - I just want an OC that will keep his foot on the gas until the final whistle.

No more Mr. Nice Guy...

[markymarc]

I just want an OC that will keep his foot on the gas until the final whistle. No more Mr. Nice Guy...

I second that!

[SteelChip]

I'd make Ken Anderson OC and tell Charlie Batch it's time to retire from playing and become the QB coach.

This seems like a logical progression if Anderson has the aptitude for the job.

[crimsonsteel]

This seems like a logical progression if Anderson has the aptitude for the job.


Never thought about this before but it's kind of ironic that Ken Anderson is Ben's QB coach. If one didn't know that he was, you never could tell by Ben's style of play. Anderson was the one QB who gave the vaunted Steel Curtain of the 70's fits because he played in Bill Walsh's system at Cincy. He was one of the QBs they played who didn't get punished very much because of the quick timed passes designed by Walsh. I don't know how well Ken would adjust to being "our" offensive coordinator given the type of QB he has and considering his background that maybe, just maybe his offensive philosophies aren't very Steeler like. If that's the case, then no thank you to Ken Anderson. Not saying it is, but just thinking out loud about what could transpire. It's quite possible he's evolved into a smashmouth loving son of a gun.