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Tibs
01-26-2010, 09:59 PM
Pretty good run-down on FA corners & safeties, thought I'd post it here....

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New England Corner Leigh Bodden

Cornerbacks:

Leigh Bodden: Leigh Bodden's 1 year $2.25 million contract includes a "No Franchise Tag" clause. I don't think he needed it. New England's secondary has regularly been exploited by quarterbacks as heady as Drew Brees and as young as Chad Henne. Bill Belichick loves a veteran group in his defensive backfield but is currently coping with the growing pains of a youthful bunch. Shawn Springs will be back next year (barring retirement) and it's possible the Pats could track down an inexpensive veteran like DeShea Townsend to add to the unit, or possibly bring back Ellis Hobbs if the Eagles don't re-sign him, but as for Bodden, expect him to be lost in a nickelback rotation possibly in New York where the Giants desperately need depth or in Seattle, where depth is a perrenial concern.

Nick Harper: Tennessee's secondary was exposed in the absence of both Cortland Finnegan and Nick Harper. While the Titans drafted Ryan Mouton and Jason McCourty, it remains to be seen if they're confident enough in the developement of their two young corners to either let Nick Harper go, sign a supplementary veteran, or use a high draft pick on a counterpart for Finnegan, who has quickly become one of the NFL's elite corners. The Titans have some signifcant free agency concerns and it's a good possibility Nick Harper won't be in the mix, unless his asking price is cheap enough. A better Cover 2/Press corner, Harper could be a good signing in Minnesota, but could also fill a roster spot in places like Detroit or St. Louis.

Anthony Henry: When Jim Schwartz came to Detroit, the emphasis figured to be on defense and some early offseason moves (Julian Peterson, Larry Foote, Grady Jackson) appeared to be catalysts for the direction Detroit was heading in. But the acquisition of Anthony Henry, followed by the drafting of saftey Luis Delmas- the only defensive back drafted by the Lions- spawned a secondary full of journeymen and draftees released by other teams. Hence dead last defensive rankings in both points and pass yards allowed and second-to-last in overall yards allowed. It's unlikely Henry will return and he could become a journeyman himself, but could be retained to fill a void in the roster if the Lions part ways with the likes of William James, Eric King or Phillip Buchanon. While it isn't his best attribute, Henry is capable of playing saftey on passing downs and safety Daniel Bullocks is also a free agent, which could increase Henry's value to Detroit.

Ellis Hobbs: The move to acquire Ellis Hobbs was one of those head-scratchers the Eagles never fail to commit at least once an offseason, especially when the move was made on the same day Victor Harris was drafted and only nine weeks after Joselio Hanson was signed to a $21 million contract extension. The most the Eagles got out of Hobbs before he suffered a season-ending injury in a week nine loss to Dallas was a redeeming kick return following an earlier return in the same game where Hobbs lost a fumble. Though the redeeming return wasn't for a score while the lost fumble tallied points for the opponent, Hobbs' chest pounding gorilla act that followed would have said otherwise. Still, with Victor Harris moving to safety and unlikely to return to corner if free agent Sean Jones is shown the door, Hobbs could be retained. Not to mention, while Sheldon Brown had a hell of a season- even while dinged up- he's made it known he either wants to be paid or wants out of Philadelphia.

Marlin Jackson: Joining the oft-injured Bob Sanders on I.R. this season, Marlin Jackson's injury may have made him expendable when rookies Jerraud Powers and Jacob Lacey (the latter of which went undrafted) stepped up in his absence. A former first round pick, Jackson commands the kind of money the Colts only invest in their offense and should be with a new team in 2010. Turning only 27 this offseason, Jackson should be coveted by teams like Detroit, St. Louis and Tampa Bay, but don't count out New England or Pittsburgh, who could certainly use a free agent splash in the secondary.

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Indianapolis Corner Marlin Jackson


Richard Marshall: Drafted in the 2nd round of the 2006 draft by the Panthers, Richard Marshall quickly worked his way onto the roster and up the depth chart. Unfortunately for Marshall, 2009 seventh round pick Captain Munnerlyn is doing the same thing. Munnerlyn still isn't quite ready to move into a starting role and it's possible Marshall could be franchised but all that depends on the depleting cap space the Panthers have and what is done about Julius Peppers. Marshall is a physical, gritty corner a team like Pittsburgh could use, but don't rule out the likes of Kansas City, Buffalo or any other teams frequenting the list of possibilities.

Stanford Routt: Following the deal that brought DeAngelo Williams to Oakland, Al Davis traded former first round pick Fabian Washington for a fourth round pick he then used to draft receiver Arman Shields. Eight weeks later, DeAngelo Williams was released and a huge vacancy opened up in the Oakland secondary, currently occupied by Chris Johnson; one of only three pure corners on Oakland's entire roster- the others being Stanford Routt and Nnamdi Asomugha- while the entire defensive backfield totals just seven players. Routt's speed won't keep him on the market for long and he'll contribute where ever he signs, but probably best in nickel and dime packages. The Green Bay Packers invest quite a few draft picks on building depth behind All Pros Charles Woodson and Al Harris and might take a look at Routt as could the Chicago Bears, who always spend a middle round pick on the secondary but have a shortage of picks.

DeShea Townsend: The corner position for the Pittsburgh Steelers has thrived in the shadow of an outstanding front seven and secondary centerpiece Troy Polamalu. But an overall dropoff in defensive production- due in large part to the absence of Polamalu- has left corners DeShea Townsend and Ike Taylor (a free aget in 2011) exposed as, essentially, the mediocre corners they've been for quite some time. While most cases of the hiccups come in seemingly incurable bunches, the Pittsburgh Steelers rarely have more than one hiccup and, while rookies Keenan Lewis and Joe Burnett, 3rd and 5th round picks respectively, haven't exactly displayed the kind of promise that is standard in Steelers defenses, expect them to play a larger role in 2010 with the possible addition of another draft pick in preparation for Taylor's departure. If he doesn't decide to hang up the cleats, Townsend will be 35 in September of 2010 and probably won't see any offers until the start of mini-camps from teams looking to fill some holes.

Fabian Washington: The Ravens faced a daunting task in free agency in 2009 with key linebackers Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs and Bart Scott. When the dust settled and Scott was the only piece missing, followed by the additions of rookies Jason Phillips (5th round, 137th overall) and Dannell Ellerbe (undrafted) to the existing depth of Tavares Gooden and Brendon Ayanbadejo, it appeared everything was going to be okay. Obviously, the loss of Rex Ryan and linebackers coach Mike Pettine was going to take some getting used to and the Ravens have bounced back from losing quality coordinators in the past, but the longtime duo of Samari Rolle and Chris McAlister at the corner positions also did some transitioning in the offseason and is now Domonique Foxworth and Fabian Washington. With only a year in the new defense, Washington has looked good and has similar ball-hawking tenacity to safety Ed Reed. While Washington should be retained, it could be one and done for the former Cornhusker should Ozzie Newsome see a way to replace Washington, who would certainly be a commodity on the free agent market and may demand money Newsome isn't willing to or able to spend.

Tibs
01-26-2010, 10:00 PM
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Pittsburgh Safety Ryan Clark

Safeties:

Antoine Bethea: It's difficult to imagine the Colts without Bob Sanders, and it's obvious Sanders will be a Colt for a very long time (at least until 2013) but perpetual injuries to the All Pro saftey cause the Colts to "move on without him" on a yearly basis and, although his absence is often a considerable setback, they always seem to do so. In 2009, the Colts got a lot out of Melvin Bullitt, but the third year safety out of Texas A&M is also a free agent, albeit a restricted one, who has displayed enough ability to step into a starting role opposite Sanders in 2010 if tendered to a one year deal that would certainly be more cost efficient than retaining Antoine Bethea. It would make a lot of sense for teams like Chicago or Minnesota to obtain Bethea's services as both teams still uphold the ideals of a Tampa Two-esque defense and could use improvement/depth at safety.

Ryan Clark: While the Steelers got a good look at what their defense looks like without Troy Polamalu this year, they also got a look at how their defense performs without Ryan Clark last year, yet didn't take any measures to add depth or find a successor to Clark in the offseason and instead thinned out at the safety position when 2006 3rd round pick Anthony Smith was let go. Now not only do the Steelers face losing Ryan Clark, but backup safety Tyrone Carter is also a free agent and you have to wonder how sturdy the Steelers' stance is in their proven philosophy of perseverance beyond the tenures of high-profile players. There's no doubt Pittsburgh's secondary is in flux and they may have their eye on some draft prospects, but unless the certainty to obtain those players is rock-solid, maintaining Clark for another season is paramount.

Nick Collins: After parting ways with Aaron Rouse (now with the Giants) and tendering the talented Atari Bigby, who was a restricted free agent in '09, to a one year deal that no other team's matched, the Packers now face both depth and fincancial issues at the safety position. Tendering Bigby to a deal (that was above what most teams might have thought he was worth ($1.545 million) was the right move in that had a team matched the offer, the Pack would have received a quality draft pick; however, with Bigby performing as good or better than he did in '09, it will take a more lucrative deal to retain him. In the case of Nick Collins, who has been consistent in the secondary since being drafted in the 2nd round of the '05 draft, the financial committment may be even more. Both safeties are still young (Collins, 26 & Bigby, 28) and at least one should be offered a long-term, unless rookie Trevor Ford is moved to free safety and Derrick Martin, Atari Bigby's back-up who is also a free agent, is the one retained. Then again, there's a situation in New Orleans with Darren Sharper that could pique the Packers' interest if they wanted to make the All Pro veteran an offer to return to Titletown.

Brodney Pool: Whether or not the Cleveland Browns part ways with Brodney Pool could be determined by the new GM and/or the possibility of a new head coach. It was obvious to everyone except the decision makers in Cleveland that an influx of New York Jets players wasn't a budding success story, and after losing Brodney Pool for the remainder of the season in week twelve, some signs of needing a patrolman in the secondary have been evident. If Eric Mangini is fired and a new coaching staff put in place, there could be a complete overhaul of the defense but for a young, blossoming pair of corners in Eric Wright and Brandon McDonald, it might be a better choice to keep Brodney Pool on the roster with either a long-term deal or the franchise tag.

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New Orleans Safety Darren Sharper


Darren Sharper: What was potentially the greatest offseason acquisition in free agency went considerably under the radar last year and has been building momentum toward what will be a headlining story in free agency this year. But it's buyer beware in Darren Sharper's case as Sharper's story happens all too often in the NFL and his outstanding play on the field in 2009 could have been the last of what's left in the tank for a veteran player who's frequently explored the media career many players look into in life after the NFL. As the scent of a Super Bowl title lingers thick for a player with a thirst like Darren Sharper's, the "leave it all on the field" mentality grows stronger until the dream is accomplished or lost, and all that's left in either event is reality. It's likely a mutual feeling between Sharper and the Saints franchise of a one year signing won't have the safety back in The Big Easy next season and the Saints have the much younger Roman Harper to deal with in free agency as well, but if the Saints do re-sign Darren Sharper, it'll be boom or bust and a quality draft pick will need to be spent on an insurance policy.

Pat Watkins: The Dallas Cowboys have been signing, drafting and jostling players in the secondary for a few years now and still haven't really settled on much. But free agent veteran Gerald Sensabaugh and '07 seventh round pick Alan Ball have climbed over Pat Watkins on the depth chart, probably awaiting their respective successors once they don't work out either. But a methodical, twelve pick draft by Jerry Jones did bring some depth to the entire team and, notably, the secondary so the loss of Watkins probably won't be felt. As for the contribution Pat Watkins could bring to another team, it will likely be in the depth department and/or on special teams. But Watkins has had his shining moments and, if he's able to put it all together with his next team- possibly the Saints, Packers, Seahawks or 49ers- he could be prove to be a valuable acquisition.

On the Move? With a spark of youth in the Indianapolis secondary, it remains to be seen when the Colts will finally say "enough is enough" for the oft-injured Bob Sanders. If it comes in 2010, it likely won't come from the Colts organization themselves, but rather a tempting offer from another team who knows those thoughts are weighing on important minds. It would be bold, there's no doubt about that, but the NFL's proven itself to be a bold business of late and, sometimes, significant ties need to be severed.

Hines57
01-26-2010, 10:15 PM
Burnett & Lewis better be ready next year. Gonna have to draft more depth

SteelerFan448
01-26-2010, 10:53 PM
I wouldn't mind a guy like Marlin Jackson, but don't think we'll be signing any of these guys outside of maybe Clark.

far51
01-26-2010, 11:00 PM
I want my man Marlin to sign with us was great as a wolverine he just doesnt fit the mold of a cover 2 CB, woulddo better as a zone CB
Jackson finished his career second all-time among Michigan players in pass breakups. During his senior year, opposing coaches and quarterbacks, concerned at Jackson's interception and pass break-up ability, threw less than 14% of their passes in his direction.[1] (http://www.steelernation.com/forums/)

TacklesSacksInterceptionsMisc SeasonTeamG SoloAstTotal SackYdsL IntYdsIntTD DefTDFFumPDSfty 2005-06Indianapolis15 431558 0.00 1160 0040 2006-07Indianapolis14 612182 0.00 1240 0050 2007-08Indianapolis16 691988 0.56 100 0140 2008-09Indianapolis7 41647 0.00 000 0110 2009-10Indianapolis4 7310 0.00 130 0010 Career




Coming of a atorn acl and not proven starter but with still with upside a force vs the run, put him at RCB and he could be counted for 60 tackles every year and perhaps 2-5 intc.
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black & gold soul
01-26-2010, 11:10 PM
richard marshall sounds like one of the under the radar signs the Steelers anually make.

blegursky
01-27-2010, 12:55 AM
We loved Clark in 2008 when he was putting crushing hits on Welker and McGahee. He`s not old enough to have become incapable of another good year - - WITH Troy healthy. I`d re-sign him and expect improvement at safety simply because it couldn`t get any worse.

Carter, not so much. Too old, has lost a step and was never that fast anyway.

Steelers1356
01-27-2010, 01:08 AM
Now not only do the Steelers face losing Ryan Clark, but backup safety Tyrone Carter is also a free agent


How will we ever survive ?

scstillerfan
01-27-2010, 01:30 AM
richard marshall sounds like one of the under the radar signs the Steelers anually make.

Yep. Marshall or Jackson would look good in B&G...