Jake long

[warriors42]

what would it take to get him? could he be had for this years and next years 1st rd picks?

Ya I know we would never trade up like that, but I am from MI, and have got to see this kid play a lot, and he is the real deal. If we could trade to get him and keep our draft picks for this year, he would be worth pretty much what ever was being asked.

Jake will be a stud in the nfl for a very long time, him and two more good OL in this draft would makes us contenders right now..

YA YA. I know. I'm an idiot, wtf am I talking about, yada yada....

[Steelz]

what would it take to get him? could he be had for this years and next years 1st rd picks?

Ya I know we would never trade up like that, but I am from MI, and have got to see this kid play a lot, and he is the real deal. If we could trade to get him and keep our draft picks for this year, he would be worth pretty much what ever was being asked.

Jake will be a stud in the nfl for a very long time, him and two more good OL in this draft would makes us contenders right now..

YA YA. I know. I'm an idiot, wtf am I talking about, yada yada....

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just kiddin... but yeah he'll be loooong gone before we pick & we have too many positions that needs depth to be giving up any picks. Plus it wont be that big of a drop-off from the best OL man in the draft to the guy we're getting.

[Pilz]

I would love to take Jake Long (or Chris Long for that matter), but it would cost too much to move from #23 to top five. Even next year's 1st rounder would not be enough without giving up our 2nd and 3rd rounders this year.

[kurtistb]

you'd probably have to give up this years whole draft and next years number 1 for the right to give some guy that has never played a down in the NFL a 30million dollar signing bonus.

[warriors42]

you'd probably have to give up this years whole draft and next years number 1 for the right to give some guy that has never played a down in the NFL a 30million dollar signing bonus.


maybe but he don't smoke pot. lol.. I was just curious what it would take. I'm surprised that TMC hasn't responded, he has this draft, and and the draft pts shit down pat..

I just personally think in this years OL draft, you got Jake Long, then everyone else, he is just way better then the next person in line.

[3diamonds5rings]

While I was watcing the combine today... I must admit I dreamed a little dream about Jake Long in black and gold...

[kurtistb]

Its actually even worse if you go by the points chart (which some teams are starting to get away from)

The number 1 overall pick is worth 3000 points our entire draft is worth less than 1400 points so if you go by the points chart we could give up this draft and next years draft and still be way short (future picks are given a 1 round penalty). While I'm sure the Dolphins would accept this year and next years draft for Long they would be doing us a favor if you go by the point chart.

[warriors42]

I don't think he is the first pick, I think he falls to KC. still out of our reach, but gotta be a better deal if he falls to 5th pick.. I'll tell you this. if my nieghbors thought I lost my mind when we drafted Ben, they aint seen shit if we were to get Jake. I would run down the street naked singing the steelers polka song. lol...

[TheStoneMan]

Nice thought, he looks great, but for a team who builds through drafting, we would have to give a way two years of 1st day picks for one player, i wouldnt want to do it even if the FO was willing to.

[K from Cal]

Plus you would screw your salary cap for a lineman. There was a certain lineman who Long reminds me of that the Faiders drafted, Robert Gallery, who hasn't exactly earned his status as a top pick. How about Tony Mandarich? Don't get too excited over a lineman.

[Big Fella]

In what way does Long remind you of Gallery?

Long was better than Joe Thomas was, and Thomas was a pro-bowl player as a rookie.

O-line is difficult to project from high school to college, and college to the NFL, but Long is close to a can't miss as there is. Andy Moeller (who was hired by the Ravens) has been the offensive line coach at Michigan since 2000. In the past few years, Michigan has seen multi-year starters at offensive line come and go without garnering much attention from the NFL.

Long is different, and that has been obvious since his sophomore season.

The only thing he has in common with Gallery is they both came out of the Big Ten. Gallery's arms were known to be a bit short coming out (like Thomas), Long has prototypical measurements for the positions.

I'm obviously a Michigan fan, but I don't know how anyone can predict this kid as a bust. He's as safe as a pick in the top 5 that there is this year, and I predict he'll be a staple at the Pro Bowl until his days are done.

[rossi]

With all the talent of the OT position it would not shock me that Long is not the best lineman to come out of this draft class. We won't know that for a few years however if we could find the guy as good or close say in round 2 like Nicks or Albert or perhaps a player like Benedict later then we'll likely not feel as badly about missing out on Long.

[kurtistb]

I disagree that Long is a better prospect than Thomas was. Thomas's pass blocking technique coming out is way beyond what Long can do but Long is a better run blocker. IMO Long looks like he could be a ridiculously good RT but at LT I'd pick Thomas any day of the week. Long has a more prototypical body (giant hands and long arms) body, but Thomas's hand technique, feet and overall body control just makes him alot natural and smooth in pass blocking.

[Steelerman58]

Forget it, fellas. We'd have to trade almost all the way up to #1 & that ain't happening.

He does look like he's gonna be a stud, though.

[BLITZ 43]

I too would love to trade up for Long I feel he is a can't miss but one thing to consider is if we don't do something at center all the Jake Long's won't mean shit. This pollack kid is starting to grow on me he might be a guy we have to consider int rounds 2-3.

[Supersteeler]

Not interested in pulling a "Mike"Ditka" this year. This is the year to need a Offensive Lineman, the draft class is deep.

[kurtistb]

Not interested in pulling a "Mike"Ditka" this year. This is the year to need a Offensive Lineman, the draft class is deep.

giving up two whole drafts for Long would make Mike Ditka look shrewd

[warriors42]

How about tagging AF. then packaging him with our 1st round to trade up. would tha be a possibality? A proven OLman and a 1st rd pick for a rookie..I know this is all just talk, but it is an interesting possibilty..

[kurtistb]

How about tagging AF. then packaging him with our 1st round to trade up. would tha be a possibality? A proven OLman and a 1st rd pick for a rookie..I know this is all just talk, but it is an interesting possibilty..

No its not possible. You can use the transition tag or the franchise in any one season but not both and Starks was already tagged. Not to mention the Dolphins would tell us to go fuck ourselves. There is no possible scenario that Jake Long ends up a Pittsburgh Steeler. Not to mention although he is a stud he is hardly studly enough to justify how bad you are slurping him right now.

[warriors42]

No its not possible. You can use the transition tag or the franchise in any one season but not both and Starks was already tagged. Not to mention the Dolphins would tell us to go fuck ourselves. There is no possible scenario that Jake Long ends up a Pittsburgh Steeler. Not to mention although he is a stud he is hardly studly enough to justify how bad you are slurping him right now.

I would be willing to bet the phins draft chris long, not jake long, and just because I am asking questions doesn't call for the slurping comment, I have seen a hell of a lot worse pimping on this site, then what I am doing. I would hardly call 4 or 5 post on this topic by myself slurping.

And yes I am a Michigan fan, and have seen Jake play alot, regardless of what you or anyone else thinks, this kid will be the best o-lineman in the nfl within 3 years bar none, I ewould also be willing to bet he makes the pro bowl this coming season....

[Steeltime]

Anybody who criticizes Jake Long's pass blocking technique is invited to watch the Florida game, where Long blocked 42 times on passes by Henne. He abused Florida's defensive ends, who were undersized but who traditionally know how to rush the passer.

[Avoid Lloyd1975]

I would love to take Jake Long (or Chris Long for that matter), but it would cost too much to move from #23 to top five. Even next year's 1st rounder would not be enough without giving up our 2nd and 3rd rounders this year.

I wouldn't totally put it out of question for us to move up a little in this draft to get what we want.

you'd probably have to give up this years whole draft and next years number 1 for the right to give some guy that has never played a down in the NFL a 30million dollar signing bonus.

Hey Ricky Williams was on Pro's vs Joe's last night. :rolleyes:

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Long was better than Joe Thomas was, and Thomas was a pro-bowl player as a rookie.


Thomas was better. Thomas is a much better athlete. Long doesn't have great feet and can be beaten with speed. Long will probably be a pro bowl RT but he's no lock to make it at LT.

[Steeltime]

Thomas was better. Thomas is a much better athlete. Long doesn't have great feet and can be beaten with speed.

As evidenced by the fact that he gave up 1 sack all last year.

On the field, and in the combine drills, he looks like he is 6'3" and 250 lbs.

He is a huge guy, who moves like a much smaller guy.

[kurtistb]

As evidenced by the fact that he gave up 1 sack all last year.

On the field, and in the combine drills, he looks like he is 6'3" and 250 lbs.

He is a huge guy, who moves like a much smaller guy.

Long moves great for such a large man but you must have not seen Joe Thomas last year

[t-bone]

I would be willing to bet the phins draft chris long, not jake long,


I'd be very surprised if the Phins don't trade out.

very, very, surprised even..

[Coryea]

He looks like the real deal, but I wouldn't want to spend that much money on a guy for potential. That's what I hate about the draft, these guys come from college never having played a down in the NFL and are instantly one of the highest paid guys at their position.

[warriors42]

He looks like the real deal, but I wouldn't want to spend that much money on a guy for potential. That's what I hate about the draft, these guys come from college never having played a down in the NFL and are instantly one of the highest paid guys at their position.


I agree 100%, thats why I am all for having a cap on all college kids going into the nfl. this would also free up money for some of the proven vets. every year teams have scramble to get enough money to sign thier rookies, and how much just depends on where you draft.

Its a double whammy, even if you are willing to give up draft picks to get your guy, you may not have the money to pay for him..

I think they really need to look at capping rookie's depending on what round theyt are taken in.. they have tried to level the playing field in so many other aspects of the sport, this is another way to even things out..

[Vader]

I'd be very surprised if the Phins don't trade out.

very, very, surprised even..

I'm sure they would love to trade out but who will trade with them? There isn't really an absolute must have player this year. I'm sure they will find somebody but they may not get the entire value of the pick.

[t-bone]

they might not, but I doubt they keep it.....unless the Tuna see's something in Matt Ryan that I've missed.....my guess is they want two #1's and a body.....and they'd take what they can get, as long as it's 3 bodies.

[ekeicher16]

Long was better than Joe Thomas was, and Thomas was a pro-bowl player as a rookie.



Although Jake Long is a monster and is completely the real deal, he is not better than Joe Thomas, look at any draft website. They aren't even really the same type of tackle. (I'm from Michigan and I see Long play every game). But I do agree that Long and Gallery are much different.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/jakelong.html

[BermudaSteel]

He's too rich for our blood...but would be a nice addition...

[Max Power]

I'd rather dream about that type of pick than to actually be in line to pick it up. Do you realize how agonizing it would be to be in that part of the draft? No thanks. I'd rather have the problem of knowing who to take in the late twenties on through 32. Yessiree that!