ESPN ticker - 2011 season w/o a salary cap?

[Superman]

Jerry Jones is thinking the league will operate without a salary cap for the 2011 season

[Hollywood Bags]

The league won't open the season without a cap, seems like a lockout.

[Vader]

Jerry Jones is thinking the league will operate without a salary cap for the 2011 season

Jerry is in his own little world.

[Hollywood Bags]

Jerry has a 1.1 billion dollar stadium he isopening in 2009, don't think he wants to let it sit in 20011

[Big Fella]

There is a faction of owners that want to go without a salary cap after the current deal expires. I remember reading about it a few summers ago.

Hopefully rationality over-rides the group of silly owners that want to kill the hen that laid the golden egg.

The NFL is number 1 for several reasons, largely though, the parity created by the salary cap can be attributed to the leagues success. If rooting for the Steelers becomes like rooting for the Pirates, I will be forced to emotionally (thus, financially) de-invest in the Steelers and the league. I can not put my heart into a team that is at a competitive disadvantage.

I have to laugh at MLB fans that point to the Oakland Athletics as proof that a small market team can have success. Sure they have (had?) a great farm system that manufactured future stars. Young kids and great pitching get them into the playoffs (occasionally) where they are really no threat to win the Series. When the contracts are up they trade them and prepare to do the whole thing over again. The Steelers as a glorified farm team? No thank you.

[Sabin]

Jerry has a 1.1 billion dollar stadium he isopening in 2009, don't think he wants to let it sit in 20011


Holy crap--that thing's being built to last longer than a Toyota.

The only thing that'll still be around when that year rolls around is Morten Anderson. And Joan Rivers' face.

[Irv24]

Cap or no cap all they are gonna do is raise the price of tickets and merchandise. Guess who REALLY pays? US!!!!

[TDX27]

If the NFL loses the cap, it will spiral downward until the league just totally sucks and it has lost almost half of its fans. The owners, the players and the NFL can not let the cap expire.

[BLITZ 43]

If the NFL loses the cap, it will spiral downward until the league just totally sucks and it has lost almost half of its fans. The owners, the players and the NFL can not let the cap expire.

You are so right the cap is what is keeping the league what it is and if you take it away it will be just like MLB. I think it is just talk but when it comes down to it they will have a cap.


Cap or no cap all they are gonna do is raise the price of tickets and merchandise. Guess who REALLY pays? US!!!!

Amen to that.

[Achie D]

Jerry is in his own little world.

But everybody likes him there.

[dobre shunka]

The last few years of the CBA are option years and this November the owners will vote on whether or not to extend the current CBA. If they vote not to, then 2009 becomes the last year with a cap. The new CBA was doomed from the start. It was a bad deal for the owners, but they panicked and signed it anyways. Now that they've had to live with it a couple of years, they've realized just what a turd it was. They gave the players too big a piece of the pie.

Everyone is building these monster stadiums which increases revenue, but it also increases debt. Upshaw doesn't care. If a new stadium adds $25m/y in new revenue to a team, the players get $15m/y of it. Even if that stadium also adds $15m/y in new debt. Sure it looks like revenue is thru the roof, but so is the cost of business, and the players don't share a nickel in that. They get it off the top. That's why the big market teams hate the deal.

The small market teams hate it because the owners ramrodded the CBA thru, indexing it to total revenue right out of the gate, before ever adequately addressing revenue sharing. The big market teams are driving up revenue, which drives up player costs, and want the small markets to pay an equal share. It's like 32 guys going out to dinner. 10 order steak and lobster, 12 order chicken, and 10 order dinner salads, and when the check comes around, some dick tells the waiter to just split it 32 ways.

There's gotta be concessions all around for the CBA to be fixed. Upshaw is like Don King, getting rich and fat short term by cannabalizing his base. He got over on the owners last time because the owners were not unified, they never got their internal issues resolved, then panicked at the eleventh hour and signed the deal. Off that Upshaw has become cartoonishly arrogant and combative. He has dug in and won't give an inch. And although the owners still haven't resolved their internal issues, they are totally unified this time. They all hate this deal. If neither side gives, then the cap just goes away, and that's where this is heading.

[360x]

No Cap = Steelers become Pirates and I stop watching Football.

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[FistfullofRings]

No Cap = Steelers become Pirates and I stop watching Football.

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Right. The day the NFL does away with the salary cap, is the day I do away with watching the NFL.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Right. The day the NFL does away with the salary cap, is the day I do away with watching the NFL.

I concur.....

[Vader]

No Cap = Steelers become Pirates and I stop watching Football.

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Same here. I can't watch the Jerry Jones and Dan Snyders of the world win the SB every year because the small market teams can't pay their punter $15 Million a year.

[Max Power]

There is no way in hell the NFL ever operates again without some sort of Salary Cap in place. The popularity of the League has never been better. The league is making money hand over fist. Who cares what some idiots speculate about when they are dreaming. All are entitled to dream, regardless of who or why. Even if they are Fucking Matt Damon.

[Vindrow]

2011 teh year of the lockout, if there isn't a new salary cap in place.

[BermudaSteel]

Looks like I better get my PS3 ready for 2011...ah, PS6, perhaps????

[Rambo steel]

Anyone who downplays the importance of a salary cap doesn't understand the... well, the importance of a salary cap. Kiss the Steelers chances goodbye if the salary cap disappears.

No Salary Cap = Steelers = Pirates

[Turbo Pig]

No Cap = Steelers become Pirates and I stop watching Football.

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Agreed... we would never make the playoffs again...

[Sean]

Jerry Jones is thinking the league will operate without a salary cap for the 2011 season

Jerry Jones is a moron. A rich moron, but a moron nonetheless.

[LineDown!]

How come all you guys are saying the Steelers = Pirates with no salary cap?

[blitzburgh418]

they still have time to figure it all out

[Punxsutawney]

I am not sure that the Steelers would automatically become the Pirates. It is much easier to draft players in football than it is in baseball where you have to draft a kid and develop him for 2-4 years before he even makes your roster, if he does at all. Also, the Steelers are in the middle of the pack, somewhere between 15-20th in the league, in revenue generated. For as long as the Rooneys would be willing to spend more money from their own pocket as they would not longer have the near equal distribution of revenue throughout the league, then the Steelers would be OK, IMO. Teams like the Packers, Colts, Jags, Titans, Bills, and Bengals would be in much deeper sh1t.

However, like Big Fella said, even if the Steelers were to remain competitve without a cap and a major decrease in revenue sharing, just being aware of the fact that the Steelers were at disadvantage would maybe be enough for me to lose interest in the franchise and the league.

[SteelerFan448]

The NFL as a whole would take a huge hit if the cap goes away. I know I won't stop supporting the Steelers, but the casual fans will leave if they know their team can't compete.

[Turbo Pig]

How come all you guys are saying the Steelers = Pirates with no salary cap?

Because the Steelers are in the bottom 10 in terms of franchise value and we don't spend money... We would lose every decent player at the end of their initial contract to teams with rich owners...

[Rambo steel]

How come all you guys are saying the Steelers = Pirates with no salary cap?

I don't know if you are a hockey fan but remember how bad the Penguins sucked without a salary cap? We could never bring in good talent unless it was drafted by us, and even then other teams would just take all of our good players because we couldn't resign them. Year in and year out, just like the Pirates. It's no coincidence that once the league instituted a cap, our record went up as well as the name-brand players we brought in. Without a cap, Sidney Crosby would be good as gone by now, and you would have never seen Marion Hossa coming to town....

[nattybohfiend]

Major League Baseball doesn't have one and look how great they're doing. . . nevermind.

[GIJohnny]

There is no way in hell the NFL ever operates again without some sort of Salary Cap in place. The popularity of the League has never been better. The league is making money hand over fist. Who cares what some idiots speculate about when they are dreaming. All are entitled to dream, regardless of who or why. Even if they are Fucking Matt Damon.

They are done fucking Matt Damon now and started on Ben Affleck...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lcmNaXmjvs :D:D:D