Free agency moves from around the league

[TMC]

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Cleveland Browns have agreed in principle on a trade to acquire Green Bay Packers DT Corey Williams in exchange for a second-round pick. John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports Cleveland Browns DT Corey Williams is expected to sign a six-year deal worth $38 million.

Updating a previous item, Calvin Watkins and Todd Archer, of the Dallas Morning News, reports Dallas Cowboys OT Flozell Adams signed a six-year contract worth more than $43 million with $15 million guaranteed.

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the New York Jets have agreed in principle to trade LB Jonathan Vilma to the New Orleans Saints in exchange for a conditional draft pick based on Vilma's playing time.

Roy Cummings, of the Tampa Tribune, reports the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have signed free agent C Jeff Faine (Saints). Terms of the deal were not disclosed, but it is believed the contract will make Faine the highest paid center in the game.

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Miami Dolphins have signed free agent OG Justin Smiley (49ers) to a five-year contract worth $25 million.

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the San Francisco 49ers have signed free agent RB DeShaun Foster (Panthers) to a two-year contract worth $1.8 million.

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the San Francisco 49ers, St. Louis Rams, and NY Jets have contacted the agent for free agent OG Alan Faneca (Steelers).

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the New York Jets will acquire Carolina Panthers DT Kris Jenkins in exchange for a third- and fifth-round draft pick.


Most of this was reported before midnight. No tampering....right.....

[SteelerScott]

I had heard on ESPN about Foster to SF and the teams interested in Faneca.
Enjoy your new $h!tty team, Alan!

Does anyone here really expect to read these words soon?...
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Pittsburgh Steelers.....

[Sarge]

Weren't the Steelers pretty high on Williams? Is Williams worth a 2nd rounder? If so, it's a shame to lose out within the division. But oh well. The Steelers are never big players in FA anyway.

[BermudaSteel]

We'll sit and look "mystified" as all the talent is distributed elsewhere...

[CoolieMan]

Andre Davis resigned with the Texans

[PsychoWard]

When are the Browns gonna run out of money??? Bentley, Steinbach, Jurevicius, Fraley, McGinest, Zastudil, Jamal Lewis, and now Corey Williams. WTF

I wish Anderson had agreed, I hope they don't get a 1st and 3rd.

[Steel Dino]

How good of a player is this Corey Wiliams guy?

[PsychoWard]

How good of a player is this Corey Wiliams guy?

7 sacks last year, only 27 years old. NT was one of the Browns biggest holes last year. I'm not saying he's amazing but it is a definate upgrade.

[LetMePlay]

The rumor on both sports radio stations is that Eagles have already inked Asante Samuel.

The key word is rumor. I think it based on the fact that it is his only scheduled visit to any team and the Eagles have a some kind of press conference they are trying to schedule for later today. Nothing has been reported form the Eagles or his agent.

[TMC]

How good of a player is this Corey Wiliams guy?

The Packers franchised him. He probably would have been the top DT free agent. Over the past 2 seasons, he has been a mid-30 tackle guy with 7 sacks a season.

The thing is, he played in a 4-3 and is now moving to the 3-4. Will he play end or NT? I am thinking he will be their NT.

When you look at the Browns and Ravens, both have stout NTs now and it magnifies our need to upgrade at center and replace Faneca. Of course, that cock-strong mean-assed Kemo could be just what the doctor ordered.

I am also willing to be we draft a center in the 3rd/4th round this season.

[TMC]

One more point, the Browns have now traded away their 1st and 2nd round picks in this draft. They have a backup QB and starting NT to show for it.

[nattybohfiend]

Wow, that's pretty impressive that they were able to work out these deals so quickly without tempering before the deadline. *wink*

[TMC]

Wow, that's pretty impressive that they were able to work out these deals so quickly without tempering before the deadline. *wink*

Cleveland could have negotiated a deal with Williams before the free agency period began. I am sure they had contact with Green Bay to find out what they wanted and since Green Bay had the rights to Williams, they could have granted permission.

[PsychoWard]

One more point, the Browns have now traded away their 1st and 2nd round picks in this draft. They have a backup QB and starting NT to show for it.


Quinn is now Cleveland's starter IMO, I hope he busts.

Thinking about Derek Anderson, I figure these teams need a QB possibly.

Miami (1st pick)
Atlanta (3)
Kansas City (5)
Baltimore (8)
Carolina (13)
Chicago (14)
Minnesota (17)

Is Derek Anderson really worth trading that high of a pick? In addition to a 3rd rounder?

That's crazy.

[Coryea]

No way in hell does some team give up their 1st and 3rd round pick to Cleveland for Anderson.

[Buster]

Quinn is now Cleveland's starter IMO, I hope he busts.

Thinking about Derek Anderson, I figure these teams need a QB possibly.

Miami (1st pick)
Atlanta (3)
Kansas City (5)
Baltimore (8)
Carolina (13)
Chicago (14)
Minnesota (17)

Is Derek Anderson really worth trading that high of a pick? In addition to a 3rd rounder?

That's crazy.

A first & third may be worth it for Minnesota, considering the urgency of their need for a QB & the fact that they pick at #17.

[kurtistb]

Quinn is now Cleveland's starter IMO, I hope he busts.

Thinking about Derek Anderson, I figure these teams need a QB possibly.

Miami (1st pick)
Atlanta (3)
Kansas City (5)
Baltimore (8)
Carolina (13)
Chicago (14)
Minnesota (17)

Is Derek Anderson really worth trading that high of a pick? In addition to a 3rd rounder?

That's crazy.

just because a guy gets tendered at a first and a third that doesn't mean youhave to trade that for him. He can be traded for any compensation Cleveland wishes to accept.

[dobre shunka]

True, but I don't think they take anything less than a 1st for Anderson. Minnesota offered a 3rd for Sage Rosenfels, and were turned down.

[TMC]

The 49ers could pull the trigger, they have the 29th pick in the first. It is not like Smith is burning things up. I would not rule out Jacksonville. IMO, Garard is slightly better than Leftwich.

And, if you are a top team, you just start calling around asking teams if they want your pick....take less than value and stockpile 2nd/3rd rounders. By the time you are done, you could be giving up a late 1st, your 3rd, and be added 2-2nds....especially if you draft high enough.

[kurtistb]

True, but I don't think they take anything less than a 1st for Anderson. Minnesota offered a 3rd for Sage Rosenfels, and were turned down.

I just meant a team like Miami o Atlanta could probably put together a package that doesn't include a first round pick since their seconds are so high and Atl actually has 2nds. Also you have to look at the possiblilty of throwing a player into the package to offset not including a first and/or third.

[Blind Official]

We're fine. We have Max Starks.

[Slaine]

The 49ers could pull the trigger, they have the 29th pick in the first. It is not like Smith is burning things up.

Smith just had a clause in his contract picked up to extend him to 2010.

[SteelerScott]

We're fine. We have Max Starks.

Sigh, your're right. We'll be fine.

[TMC]

Smith just had a clause in his contract picked up to extend him to 2010.

I know. Cleveland picked up a clause like that on Couch. Houston did the same with Carr. Both were released within 2 seasons.

I am sure the 49ers know this. They picked up the clause the same reason we transitioned Starks, because there was no one else behind them.

[Buster]

SF just picked up a three year option on their backup QB Hill if I recall correctly.

[BermudaSteel]

This whole scenario makes me sick...cuz we NEVER have enough money to get one inkling of a good player during FA...

[Superman]

I hope Anderson goes to Cincy.

[CoolieMan]

This whole scenario makes me sick...cuz we NEVER have enough money to get one inkling of a good player during FA...

and yet the Steelers are almost always one of the better teams in the league....

[360x]

I'd just like to see us patch ONE hole in free agency. You don't have to break the bank to do that. Pick up a Safety or a Dlineman. Something... I mean, you don't have to totally merc your philosophy in order to move the team forward. Just bend a little...

[Blind Official]

This whole scenario makes me sick...cuz we NEVER have enough money to get one inkling of a good player during FA...

Well, we DID. We don't anymore

[Blind Official]

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Miami Dolphins have signed free agent OG Justin Smiley (49ers) to a five-year contract worth $25 million.

What did we sign Simmons to again?

[BermudaSteel]

I'd just like to see us patch ONE hole in free agency. You don't have to break the bank to do that. Pick up a Safety or a Dlineman. Something... I mean, you don't have to totally merc your philosophy in order to move the team forward. Just bend a little...
I fully understand and agree wholeheartedly...but you and I are NEW GENERATION FANS w/ NEW IDEAS...that's frowned upon:confused:

Well, we DID. We don't anymoreAh, when? and who?

and yet the Steelers are almost always one of the better teams in the league....
No doubt about it...but 360 said it best...we have a coupla of holes...and I'm sure ONE could be sorted out via FA...that is all...

[cutty]

I had heard on ESPN about Foster to SF and the teams interested in Faneca.
Enjoy your new $h!tty team, Alan!

Does anyone here really expect to read these words soon?...
John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Pittsburgh Steelers.....

I agree, I wonder why the steelers are never in any of these reasonable deals for players that would really fill holes in the team.

[sactownsteelerfan]

The paper here says the raiders also might talk to Faneca. But more likely will try to get the guy from indy for less money.

[Far51]

Raiders fuck up again thats more trhan Corey Williams or any DL, and for as guy that could of been had for less most defientely, Al Davis continues to shell unecassy big bucks
Go to Google NewsRaiders Re-Sign Kelly
By JOSH DUBOW – 8 hours ago

ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) — The Oakland Raiders resigned defensive lineman Tommy Kelly on Thursday to a seven-year contract that reportedly could be worth more than $50 million.

Kelly, coming off reconstructive knee surgery, was set to become an unrestricted free agent on Friday. But the Raiders pre-empted that with a lucrative contract that guarantees Kelly more than $18 million.

Keeping Kelly was an offseason priority for Oakland after defensive tackle Warren Sapp retired. Kelly was the team's most consistent defensive lineman last season before sustaining the season-ending knee injury Oct. 28 against Tennessee.

Kelly's versatility is one of his biggest strengths as he is able to play inside at tackle or outside at end. Sapp said at one point last season Kelly could be better than he was by the end of his career. That was heady praise for a player who signed with the Raiders in 2004 as an undrafted and unheralded free agent from Mississippi State.

Oakland needs help on its defensive line after allowing a league-worst 4.8 yards per carry and finishing second-to-last by allowing 145.9 yards per game.

Kelly finished last season with 27 solo tackles, one sack and a blocked kick that helped seal Oakland's first win of the season. He has 13 sacks in four seasons in the NFL.

The Raiders have done a good job keeping free agents early this offseason, placing the exclusive franchise tag on cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, which guarantees him at least $9.465 million in 2008. They also re-signed running back Justin Fargas to a $12 million, three-year contract that guarantees him $6 million.

The Raiders were unable to come to deals with any of their other free agents before they could begin negotiating with other teams, including defensive end Chris Clemons, quarterback Josh McCown or receiver Jerry Porter.

[ironcitysteelers]

How retarded was this whole thing...

APNewsBreak: QB Derek Anderson agrees to multiyear deal with Browns

By TOM WITHERS - AP Sports Writer

2008-02-29 09:03


Cleveland Browns quarterback Derek Anderson wasn't a free agent for long.

Anderson has agreed to a multiyear contract to stay with the Browns, a person familiar with the negotiations told The Associated Press. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the contract had not been completed.

General manager Phil Savage believed if Anderson had gotten an offer from another team, the Browns probably wouldn't have been able to keep him.

The team had been negotiating a three-year, $20 million deal for Anderson.

The 24-year-old signed with Cleveland just hours after he became a restricted free agent.

[Spike]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ...................wake me up when we sign somebody

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

One player who hasn't really been mentioned here that I would like to have the Steelers bring in for a visit is Jerry Porter from the Raiders. I think he could be brought in for a relatively small price and improve our WR situation immediately.

[schoondog]

One player who hasn't really been mentioned here that I would like to have the Steelers bring in for a visit is Jerry Porter from the Raiders. I think he could be brought in for a relatively small price and improve our WR situation immediately.

This maybe why there hasn't been much talk about him.


FOXSports.com has learned Oakland wide receiver Jerry Porter is set to visit with Jacksonville and may already have reached agreement on a contract.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7852370?MSNHPHMA

[SteelersUk]

One player who hasn't really been mentioned here that I would like to have the Steelers bring in for a visit is Jerry Porter from the Raiders. I think he could be brought in for a relatively small price and improve our WR situation immediately.


This guy is complete and total unadulaterated garbage - trust me.

I know you will say "He was on the Raiders" but he's been there for seven years and he pulls the same crap every year he plays, a couple of good games, and then he goes back to sleep. The guy is slow and a total half asser, he has a terrible attitude.

We do not want Jerry Porter. Beleive me.

[blitz]

This guy is complete and total unadulaterated garbage - trust me.

I know you will say "He was on the Raiders" but he's been there for seven years and he pulls the same crap every year he plays, a couple of good games, and then he goes back to sleep. The guy is slow and a total half asser, he has a terrible attitude.

We do not want Jerry Porter. Beleive me.


he was on the raiders

[thatrain]

We'll sit and look "mystified" as all the talent is distributed elsewhere...

And we'll continue to win on average 10 games a year while the rest of these teams struggle to get out of the basement.

[Garrett]

The 49ers could pull the trigger, they have the 29th pick in the first. It is not like Smith is burning things up.

Not gonna happen. Not only haven't they given up on Smith, but they resigned Shaun Hill, who they are very high on.

I actually look at the Niners @29 as a potential trade down partner, picking up their early 3rd. If Groves is still there at #23 (provided the Steelers don't draft him themselves), the Niners would be VERY interested in trading up. They reportedly love him.

[LeXX75]

Derek Anderson has agreed to a multiyear contract to stay with the Browns. NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that it is for three years, with $14 million guaranteed.

Anderson may have given up short-term money to stay, but his best chance for a long career and another big payday soon was to stay. He is only one year older than Brady Quinn and would put himself in great position with another Pro Bowl quality year. This is good news for Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow, and the Browns skill players.
Source: Yahoo!

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

This guy is complete and total unadulaterated garbage - trust me.

I know you will say "He was on the Raiders" but he's been there for seven years and he pulls the same crap every year he plays, a couple of good games, and then he goes back to sleep. The guy is slow and a total half asser, he has a terrible attitude.

We do not want Jerry Porter. Beleive me.

I have had the "privilege" of being on the left coast and watched many a Raider game out here. Here's what I saw from Porter. Great hands when he was on. Great play making ability, jumping and fighting for the ball. The Raiders really haven't had the QB or O-Line to allow the WR's to be productive. Remember Moss was also languishing on that roster and look what a change of scenery did. I believe their weak WR production was due more to not having a decent QB, line, and coaching rather than lack of talent at the WR position.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Report: Anderson gets multiyear deal from Browns
Associated Press

Updated: February 29, 2008, 10:14 AM ET

Cleveland Browns quarterback Derek Anderson wasn't a free agent for long.


Anderson has agreed to a multiyear contract to stay with the Browns, a person familiar with the negotiations told The Associated Press. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the contract had not been completed.

General manager Phil Savage believed if Anderson had gotten an offer from another team, the Browns probably wouldn't have been able to keep him.

The team had been negotiating a three-year, $20 million deal for Anderson.

The 24-year-old signed with Cleveland just hours after he became a restricted free agent.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press


The contract is believed to be 3 yrs -24 mil with 14 mil guaranteed.

[Sluzilla]

Derek Anderson has agreed to a multiyear contract to stay with the Browns. NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that it is for three years, with $14 million guaranteed.

Anderson may have given up short-term money to stay, but his best chance for a long career and another big payday soon was to stay. He is only one year older than Brady Quinn and would put himself in great position with another Pro Bowl quality year. This is good news for Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow, and the Browns skill players.
Source: Yahoo!

a lot of sites are reporting Anderson rejected the offer and is a FA...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3270160&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines

[LeXX75]

I saw that somewere else............

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Found this on ESPN. Apparently Schefter from the NFL Network is also reporting this.

[Sluzilla]

doh!......

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Also found this on ESPN:
Jets close in on Faneca
The free-agent signing period opened at midnight, and the Jets were expected the strike quickly. The target: Steelers LG Alan Faneca.

The Jets are poised to make Faneca an $8 million-a-year offer and, barring an upset, they will get their man. The official announcement may not happen for a day or two, but those in the know believe it’s a fait accompli. It’s never done until the ink is on the paper, but the Jets are expected to outbid the Rams and 49ers.

Faneca, 31, is a seven-time Pro Bowl selection. He would fill a gaping hole at left guard, sliding between LT D’Brickashaw Ferguson and C Nick Mangold.

Now look for them to pursue the Lions’ Damien Woody to play right tackle. He has been a guard and center most of his career - he was benched at guard midway through last season - but played the final five games of 2007 at right tackle. And did a pretty good job, I’m told.

Clearly, with the Jonathan Vilma, Kris Jenkins and Faneca moves (Jenkins isn’t quite a done deal, I’m told), the Jets intend to be major players this offseason.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Just heard on Fox News that Anderson turned down the Browns. Don't know if it was the old offer or the new one.

[t-bone]

who's he talking to?

Dolphins maybe?

who else is gonna beat 8M a year for a one year wonder?

[LeXX75]

The Vikings have reached a six-year agreement with Madieu Williams, formerly of the Bengals.

We'll doubt he'll be cheap, but Williams was one of the best young defensive starters available in free agency. He's similar to a younger Darren Sharper, which means the Vikings have great ball skills and not a lot of thump at safety.
Source: Cincinnati Enquirer

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

According to Adam Schefter of NFL Network, the Vikes have signed S Madieu Williams.

[LeXX75]

According to Adam Schefter of NFL Network, the Vikes have signed S Madieu Williams.

beat ya again...lol

[PsychoWard]

Cleveland Browns quarterback carousel is turning
by Tony Grossi Friday February 29, 2008, 10:58 AM
Do the Browns have a trade in the works for Derek Anderson?

That's the obvious question after reports that the quarterback agreed to terms this morning to a three-year deal.

Less than 12 hours earlier, Browns GM Phil Savage said he would not raise the club's offer of $20 million with $10 million in guarantees. Then the Columbus Dispatch reported the Browns upped the offer to about $24 million with $12 million in guarantees.

Savage also said the Browns would not trade Anderson for less than first- and third-round picks. But given the apparent change in contract offers, it's possible Savage could change his mind on a trade, too.

The Browns are presently without picks in the first and second rounds of the draft after they swapped their second-round pick to Green Bay for franchise defensive tackle Corey Williams. The first went last year to Dallas to move up and select Brady Quinn.

So now the Browns have a quarterback controversy, a defensive tackle and no picks in the first and second rounds.

There's got to be more to this.

[TMC]

Anderson's agent made the Browns FO his bitch. The Browns drew a $20M, $10M guaranteed line in the sand and said we are not budging. Anderson's agent showed them the finger and they went to $22M, $12M. They received the finger again and bent over like bitches.

I bet they have a line leading into the conference room and they FO members walk in, drop their pants, bend over, and take it like men. I bet the extra money is being used to hire temp help for the agent so he does not chaff from all the fucking.

[toledosteel7]

Anderson's agent made the Browns FO his bitch. The Browns drew a $20M, $10M guaranteed line in the sand and said we are not budging. Anderson's agent showed them the finger and they went to $22M, $12M. They received the finger again and bent over like bitches.

I bet they have a line leading into the conference room and they FO members walk in, drop their pants, bend over, and take it like men. I bet the extra money is being used to hire temp help for the agent so he does not chaff from all the fucking.


somebody get that man some Vasoline now! :eek:

[TMC]

In a related note, I bet we pay Ben in the same PER YEAR range that the Browns paid Anderson. Just a hunch, but I bet Ben gets 8-10M per season on a LONGER deal.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Apparently Parcells has made a deal for NT Ferguson....

[t-bone]

"So now the Browns have a quarterback controversy, a defensive tackle and no picks in the first and second rounds.

There's got to be more to this."

no there doesn't.

it's the Browns.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

From Dallas Morning News,
....The Cowboys and Dolphins will swap sixth-round picks this year and the Cowboys will receive Miami's sixth-rounder in 2009. The order of the picks in the '08 draft will be revealed when the league sets the compensatory picks at the NFL owners' meetings. But the Cowboys will have the first pick in the sixth round based on Miami's 1-15 record last season.

[PsychoWard]

From Dallas Morning News,
....The Cowboys and Dolphins will swap sixth-round picks this year and the Cowboys will receive Miami's sixth-rounder in 2009. The order of the picks in the '08 draft will be revealed when the league sets the compensatory picks at the NFL owners' meetings. But the Cowboys will have the first pick in the sixth round based on Miami's 1-15 record last season.


Damn near pointless

[LeXX75]

From Dallas Morning News,
....The Cowboys and Dolphins will swap sixth-round picks this year and the Cowboys will receive Miami's sixth-rounder in 2009. The order of the picks in the '08 draft will be revealed when the league sets the compensatory picks at the NFL owners' meetings. But the Cowboys will have the first pick in the sixth round based on Miami's 1-15 record last season.

I guessin Ferguson is part of this deal as well........

[Blind Official]

I fully understand and agree wholeheartedly...but you and I are NEW GENERATION FANS w/ NEW IDEAS...that's frowned upon:confused:

Ah, when? and who?


...before they tagged Starks and signed Kirschke to more than he was worth.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Porter to the Jags. 6yrs 30mil? Looking for sources.

[LeXX75]

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that the Jaguars agreed to terms with Jerry Porter on a six-year, $30 million contract, with $10 million guaranteed.

That's almost reasonable in this market. Jacksonville likes their wideouts bulky and Porter will help in the red zone, hurting Reggie Williams. Porter will start, probably opposite Williams or Matt Jones, with Dennis Northcutt in the slot. We think Porter can be a solid starter, but his fantasy potential is limited to WR3/4 status in a conservative spread-the-wealth offense. Troy Williamson chances to make an impact just went down.

[LeXX75]

Comcast Sportsnet reports that the Eagles have a contract in place with Asante Samuel. Samuel has scheduled a media availability at 4:30 PM ET Friday.

The Eagles have not indicated that Samuel has agreed to a deal. Occasionally visiting players talk with the media even if they haven't signed, although it's somewhat rare. Other sources have said Samuel will sign with the Eagles, but nothing in stone has been confirmed.
Source: ComcastSportsnet.net

[LeXX75]

Jaguars agreed to terms with Cleo Lemon.

A nice fit for both sides. Lemon played capably in a difficult situation last year, and should be an upgrade over Quinn Gray. Lemon sometimes plays too conservatively, but that fits Jacksonville's style, as does his mobility.
Source: FoxSports.com

[BermudaSteel]

Anyone else waitin' to hear who WE sign???

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Anyone else waitin' to hear who WE sign???

We fear change........:(

[BermudaSteel]

Obama too....LOL

[Buster]

Porter to the Jags. 6yrs 30mil? Looking for sources.


Jaguars | Porter contract update
Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:24:19 -0800

Updating a previous item, Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Jacksonville Jaguars have signed free-agent WR Jerry Porter (Raiders) to a six-year, $30 million contract, with $10 million in guaranteed money.

[Doc]

this is always one of the more frustrating days of the offseason for me..

[FistfullofRings]

We fear change........:(

And that explains our recent record compared to that of the Browns, 49ers and Jets.

The first few days of FA is when the biggest mistakes are made.

[Buster]

Unbelievable the money some of these guys are getting.

[Far51]

the Jags really have a fetish for African American QB's, I don't think since brunell left they have had 1 white QB.

[Far51]

You will hear after like 3 days Steelers have contacted ______ agent on a proposed contract

like the usual tier 2-3 ppl ur Ced Wilson,Allan Rossemm, Travis Kirshkie

[toledosteel7]

the Jags really have a fetish for African American QB's, I don't think since brunell left they have had 1 white QB.

well that's mighty white of ya!

excuse me while I whip this out!

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

the Jags really have a fetish for African American QB's, I don't think since brunell left they have had 1 white QB.

Racist fucker......:D

[TMC]

Browns | D. Anderson agrees to terms on new deal
Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:17:37 -0800
Updating a previous report, The Sports Network reports the Cleveland Browns and QB Derek Anderson have agreed to terms on a three-year deal. The deal is worth a maximum of $26 million and no less than $24 million, with at least $13.5 million guaranteed, according to The Plain Dealer. The two sides must work out the contract details before the deal can be announced.


Eagles | Samuel expected to sign soon
Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:19:56 -0800
Updating a previous report, John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Philadelphia Eagles are expected to sign unrestricted free-agent CB Asante Samuel (Patriots) soon. The deal is expected to be more than five years and $47.2 million.

[Buster]

Jets | Team makes offer to Faneca
Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:14:27 -0800

Tom Rock, of New York Newsday, reports the New York Jets reportedly offered free-agent OG Alan Faneca (Steelers) a four-year deal worth $32 million, with around $20 million in guaranteed money. Faneca's agent, Rick Smith, said they are currently compiling offers from several teams, but Faneca is expected to make his decision no later than Sunday, March 2.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

He's a Jet for sure. No way he turns down 8mil a year with 20 mil guaranteed.

[LetMePlay]

Eagles | Samuel expected to sign soon
Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:19:56 -0800
Updating a previous report, John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Philadelphia Eagles are expected to sign unrestricted free-agent CB Asante Samuel (Patriots) soon. The deal is expected to be more than five years and $47.2 million.

Damn. I had that rumor post at like 9:00am this morning. Clayton should pay me for my work.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Tuna is on a roll. Reports are coming out that the Phins have also signed R.Starks from Ten and Wilford from the Jags.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Parcells wasting no time Miami
The Miami Dolphins have stormed out of the free-agent gate, adding yet another young player. The Dolphins reached agreement with former Tennessee defensive tackle Randy Starks on a five-year, $21 million contract that includes $7 million worth of guaranteed money. The best part of Starks might be his upside. He is only 24 years old.

The Dolphins also have reached agreement on a trade with the Dallas Cowboys that would reunite DT Jason Ferguson with Parcells and give Miami a new starting defensive tackle tandem for the coming season.

Additionally, the Dolphins signed former Jets tight end Sean Ryan to a one-year deal and were expecting visits from Arizona linebacker Calvin Pace and Oakland quarterback Josh McCown.
-- Adam Schefter

[Irv24]

Parcells wasting no time Miami
The Miami Dolphins have stormed out of the free-agent gate, adding yet another young player. The Dolphins reached agreement with former Tennessee defensive tackle Randy Starks on a five-year, $21 million contract that includes $7 million worth of guaranteed money. The best part of Starks might be his upside. He is only 24 years old.

The Dolphins also have reached agreement on a trade with the Dallas Cowboys that would reunite DT Jason Ferguson with Parcells and give Miami a new starting defensive tackle tandem for the coming season.

Additionally, the Dolphins signed former Jets tight end Sean Ryan to a one-year deal and were expecting visits from Arizona linebacker Calvin Pace and Oakland quarterback Josh McCown.
-- Adam Schefter
I guess that would mean he is buying the groceries.

[Schadenfreude]

The Bengals have also apparently traded for Shaun Rogers of the Detroit Lions. They got him for a 3rd and 5th round pick. Though I'm hearing it may be for a 4th and 5th round pick. If that's the case, all I have to say is: WTF?

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

The Bengals have also apparently traded for Shaun Rogers of the Detroit Lions. They got him for a 3rd and 5th round pick. Though I'm hearing it may be for a 4th and 5th round pick. If that's the case, all I have to say is: WTF?

The Cincinnati Bengals, who acquired defensive tackle Shaun Rogers in a trade with the Detroit Lions on Friday afternoon, reached a three-year agreement with linebacker Dhani Jones.

The Bengals traded third-round and fifth-round draft picks to Detroit to acquire Rogers.

Jones and linebacker Landon Johnson were two of the team's priorities to re-sign once free agency started Friday morning. Jones, who signed with the Bengals during the 2007 season after a number of linebacker injuries, was the first to reach an agreement. Talks continue with Johnson, who is an unrestricted free agent.

The Bengals lost safety Madieu Williams to the Vikings early Friday morning when he agreed to a six-year, $33 million contract.

Senior writer John Clayton covers the NFL for ESPN.com

[Schadenfreude]

I don't know about that trade..but wont the Bengals receive compensatory picks because of this? Meaning that acquiring Rogers may not have cost them anything? :confused:

[Sluzilla]

any comp picks they get for Williams will be in the 2009 draft...and for that contract probably only a 5th rounder...

[Far51]

Losing Williams hurts the bengals but if Rogers is consistent its a big boast for them and Jones is a good LB.

[Far51]

Racist er......:D

no its just the truth

Leftwich
Garrard
Gray
Lemon

[avoidlloyd]

could be a very good move by the bungles.......rogers is very disruptive but he onlys plays part time because he is so fat and out of shape much like sam adams. If he can get in shape and stay on the field he will be a force. It blows watching everyone around us get better while we continue to sleep and stay pat. I'm not saying throw the check book at people but how about mixing in a trade every now and then? Our draft picks havent really amounted to shit latley anyway so why not trade them? With the exception of our top picks they have been good.

[Steelerman]

....and from the Steelers headquarters:

"Chirp.....chirp....chirp..."

[Slaine]

ESPNews reports the Denver Broncos released WR Javon Walker Friday, Feb. 29.

[BLITZ 43]

could be a very good move by the bungles.......rogers is very disruptive but he onlys plays part time because he is so fat and out of shape much like sam adams. If he can get in shape and stay on the field he will be a force. It blows watching everyone around us get better while we continue to sleep and stay pat. I'm not saying throw the check book at people but how about mixing in a trade every now and then? Our draft picks havent really amounted to latley anyway so why not trade them? With the exception of our top picks they have been good.

I agree and the thing I don't understand is we have the cap room why not spend the money?

[Supersteeler]

I find it hilarious that some of you on here get so bent out of shape when the Steelers sit idle and the dumbasses of the league are making barely mediocre guys the highest paid players at their position. The Steelers will never join the rush of idiots who do this, so ya'll will have to keep whining. Wanna make Madeiu Williams the highest paid safety behind Sanders and Polomalu? Go root for the Vikings so you can be happy. Lol, that guy is serviceable, that's it. The whole thing is ridiculous and I can't help but laugh at people who think that getting involved in this feeding frenzy would make us a better team.

[avoidlloyd]

Fuck mediu williams but corey williams and sean rogers being added to division foes while we lose our best ol is nothing to sneeze at. Could you imagine Hamp and rogers side by side again when in shape??? They lit it up at Texas i'm jealous as hell. Why not throw them a few mid to late round picks ours havent amounted to shit lately. Most on here know the steelers wont throw out the big money nor do we care but how about getting creative and make a trade or two instead of resigning bums like kirshke and simmons.

[McBane]

Looks like Samuel is going to the Eagles (from espn.com):

Eagles sign Samuel to six-year contract

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Updated: February 29, 2008, 5:13 PM ET

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PHILADELPHIA -- The Eagles have signed free-agent cornerback Asante Samuel.

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The Eagles agreed to a six-year contract on Friday with Samuel, who spent the last five seasons with New England and had 16 interceptions the last two years.

Samuel also tied the NFL career playoff record with three interceptions returned for TDs.

Philadelphia had only 11 interceptions last year and failed to score a defensive touchdown. Its defense had an NFL-worst 19 takeaways.

The Eagles will likely trade or shift positions for either Lito Sheppard or Sheldon Brown.

Samuel, a two-time Pro Bowl selection with two Super Bowl rings, has 22 career interceptions. He was protected by New England last year by the franchise player tag.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

[mightyguru]

Oh yeah, that guy.

Updated: August 13, 2006, 1:01 AM ET


NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Tennessee defensive tackle Randy Starks missed the Titans' exhibition opener Saturday night after turning himself in following a charge that he assaulted his fiancee.

Starks had been slated to start against New Orleans, but Titans coach Jeff Fisher said after the 19-16 loss that he had dismissed the two-year veteran from the game.


"I told Randy there was no place for him here as far as being a part of the team tonight. What follows is a legal issue. Anything is between him and the club. I just felt it was best he did not participate with his teammates," Fisher said.

Don Aaron, a spokesman for Metro Nashville Police, didn't immediately answer messages left by The Associated Press on Saturday night.

WTVF-TV in Nashville reported that Starks turned himself into police about 90 minutes before kickoff after being charged with beating his 25-year-old fiancee at their home earlier in the day. The station cited a police report that said the woman lost some fingernails in the scuffle and had her head banged against a wall.


I know it was a while ago but the Steelers don't want jagoffs like this around.

[Blind Official]

I find it hilarious that some of you on here get so bent out of shape when the Steelers sit idle and the dumbasses of the league are making barely mediocre guys the highest paid players at their position. The Steelers will never join the rush of idiots who do this, so ya'll will have to keep whining. Wanna make Madeiu Williams the highest paid safety behind Sanders and Polomalu? Go root for the Vikings so you can be happy. Lol, that guy is serviceable, that's it. The whole thing is ridiculous and I can't help but laugh at people who think that getting involved in this feeding frenzy would make us a better team.

"better team" is relative.

Did committing 7 million of our cap room for this year on a backup OLman make us a better team next year?

Does resigning Kirschke make us a better team?

Does doing nothing today make us a "better team"? Possibly, but you have to follow it up with other moves. Time will tell

[Supersteeler]

Does doing nothing today make us a "better team"? Possibly, but you have to follow it up with other moves. Time will tell

The Steelers usually make a couple moves for "medium tier" players after things die down a little. It usually works out well, but sometimes doesn't (i.e. Mahan so far). They simply wait until the feeding frenzy is over and then see who's left that they can use without paying them 8 million a year. Same thing every year. We aren't going to vastly overpay any of these guys like the bottom feeders always do...the fact that they usually stay bottom feeders should say something about doing that every year.

[BLITZ 43]

I find it hilarious that some of you on here get so bent out of shape when the Steelers sit idle and the dumbasses of the league are making barely mediocre guys the highest paid players at their position. The Steelers will never join the rush of idiots who do this, so ya'll will have to keep whining. Wanna make Madeiu Williams the highest paid safety behind Sanders and Polomalu? Go root for the Vikings so you can be happy. Lol, that guy is serviceable, that's it. The whole thing is ridiculous and I can't help but laugh at people who think that getting involved in this feeding frenzy would make us a better team.

Well I am not bent out of shape what I am is disappointed that we have the worst oline and we just lost our best lineman and we might lose 2 more and we are still stuck with Mahan! I am for quality and yeah your right we shouldn't make avg guys the highest paid players just to make moves but we should do SOMETHING to help our team. I understand it is not the Steeler way but it does get disappointing to just sit idle.

[Vader]

I'm more upset about the people we throw cash at (Kirschke) than the players we don't get in FA.

[avoidlloyd]

we are far from idle we got kirshe, simmons, mahanna montana and will eventually get raped to have to keep starks who wasnt even a starter last year.

[Supersteeler]

Well I am not bent out of shape what I am is disappointed that we have the worst oline and we just lost our best lineman and we might lose 2 more and we are still stuck with Mahan! I am for quality and yeah your right we shouldn't make avg guys the highest paid players just to make moves but we should do SOMETHING to help our team. I understand it is not the Steeler way but it does get disappointing to just sit idle.

If you read my post, I agree that we will probably do something before free agency gets too far along. If you want us to sign a tackle or guard that is in demand right now, you better be willing to pay 6 or 7 million a year. If you have any hope of retaining Ben, I'd strongly advise against that. We will sign a guy or two but it will be someone to compete for a starting job or depth, not a blue chip player....that's just the way it is. You have to hope you can draft those types of players.

[SteelerFan448]

It would be kinda fun if we signed a mid-low level FA on the opening day of FA just for some excitement.

[Supersteeler]

I'm more upset about the people we throw cash at (Kirschke) than the players we don't get in FA.

To be fair we didn't exactly throw a bunch of money at him, although we could have most likely have found someone as good or better off someone's cut list. He was signed because we are pretty thin at DE at the moment. Eason is gone. Nua hasn't developed into much if he's still even on the roster.

[Blind Official]

If you read my post, I agree that we will probably do something before free agency gets too far along. If you want us to sign a tackle or guard that is in demand right now, you better be willing to pay 6 or 7 million a year.

Justin Smiley got 5 million per and was probably the first guy to sign today.

That's less per year than what Kendall Simmons got.

..and just for perspective, I think the Steelers signed both James Farrior and Jeff Hartings early in FA. In both cases, they seemed to have a clear idea of what they wanted to do. I no longer have faith that Colbert does anymore. The benefit of the doubt is gone for me.

[Blind Official]

I'm more upset about the people we throw cash at (Kirschke) than the players we don't get in FA.

Me too. Ditto

[Vader]

To be fair we didn't exactly throw a bunch of money at him, although we could have most likely have found someone as good or better off someone's cut list. He was signed because we are pretty thin at DE at the moment. Eason is gone. Nua hasn't developed into much if he's still even on the roster.

Doesn't make sense to me. Why keep around someone who obviously can't do the job? Yea, he is a body but you can get those cheaper by getting an undrafted rookie. Even if they play just as bad at least they are cheaper. If I'm going to lose i'd rather lose with young cheap players than older more expensive players who have no upside.

[Parasite]

I can't believe we gave Kendall Simmons what we gave him.

[Steelerman]

I can't believe we gave Kendall Simmons what we gave him.


I said that about 17+ weeks in a row this past season

[BLITZ 43]

I'm more upset about the people we throw cash at (Kirschke) than the players we don't get in FA.

Yeah this is a true statement Kirschke, Mahan, and Simmons really hurt us when it comes time to sign other guys.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

It would be kinda fun if we signed a mid-low level FA on the opening day of FA just for some excitement.

I'm more upset about the people we throw cash at (Kirschke) than the players we don't get in FA.


Good ol Steeler way. Gotta love it...

[BLITZ 43]

If you read my post, I agree that we will probably do something before free agency gets too far along. If you want us to sign a tackle or guard that is in demand right now, you better be willing to pay 6 or 7 million a year. If you have any hope of retaining Ben, I'd strongly advise against that. We will sign a guy or two but it will be someone to compete for a starting job or depth, not a blue chip player....that's just the way it is. You have to hope you can draft those types of players.

I agree with ya and I hope we get 3/5's of our line in this years draft. I don't mind paying 6-7 mil for a guy(I would rather 3-4mil) as long as he was a proven starter. Mahan was not proven and I have no idea what Colbert was thinking when he gave Simmons that contract but these are the things that might prevent us from being a player in FA. Oh well there is alway next week when the bargins are found in FA right?

[TMC]

Want to laugh at the Bengals?

Lions' trade of Rogers unravels
Mike O'Hara / The Detroit News

ALLEN PARK -- The Detroit Lions' trade of nose tackle Shaun Rogers to the Cincinnati Bengals was unraveling Friday evening, hours after an announcement that the teams had agreed on a deal.

Originally, the Lions confirmed reports that Rogers was traded to the Bengals in exchange for Cincinnati's third- and fifth-round picks in the April draft.

The Bengals' official Web site posted details of the trade under the headline "Big Deal for Big Man," calling it "one of their biggest deals in history."

However, league sources said later Friday that the trade was not consummated, and that the Lions would be looking to trade Rogers to another team.

There was no comment from Lions officials.

Earlier in the day, after the trade had been announced by the Lions, reporters were told that coach Rod Marinelli and president Matt Millen would not be available for comment.

[TMC]

http://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?showtopic=40956

snicker, snicker.....

http://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?showtopic=40962


An offseason meltdown to keep fans in form for the regular season.....

[Hollywood Bags]

WOW, this is a nice player but a 16 million dollar signing bonus ?

Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:29:21 -0800

Nancy Gay, of the San Francisco Chronicle, reports the Oakland Raiders have agreed to terms with free-agent SS Gibril Wilson (Giants) on a six-year deal worth $39 million, including a $16 million signing bonus.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The real question is when did Coryea start working at the Chronicle ?

[Blind Official]

WOW, this is a nice player but a 16 million dollar signing bonus ?

Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:29:21 -0800

Nancy Gay, of the San Francisco Chronicle, reports the Oakland Raiders have agreed to terms with free-agent SS Gibril Wilson (Giants) on a six-year deal worth $39 million, including a $16 million signing bonus.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jesus. I seem to remember them drafting a bunch of safeties too.

Dude isn't worth that

[Buster]

Maybe the Bengals found out that Rodgers didn't have any prior arrests!

[TheStoneMan]

I don't understand how Everyone can expect anything mroe than what we're seeing from the steelers today.... We are a team that builds from the draft and keeps players who know the system, The Biggest FA splash i remember in recent years was duce staley, and that wasnt for a few weeks into the fa period, and wasnt a bad move while he was on the field. We've never come out the first day and shelled out all our cap space to bite on some "Flavor of the moment" free agent. No one expected us to sign asante samuel... if u did, welcome to the first day of fanship with the pittsburgh steelers, get used to it, we dont do it... We'll make a couple moves in the coming weeks, but mostly our impact is going to be through the draft so anyone who requires trading picks, forget it... Its the same formula for years now. Yeah Hartings' move hit the bullseye but thats the same type of outcome they wanted from mahan, you cant be 100% every single time..

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Issac Bruce to SF-2 yrs 6Mil.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3271519

[60 MINUTES]

Issac Bruce to SF-2 yrs 6Mil.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3271519

This will kill Rams fans. One of my best friends is a Rams fan and Bruce of course one of his all time fav players. I think Bruce to RAMS fans is the same thing that guys like Jack L and Jack H and Joe G are to us. Yeah I know Bruce is not the player any of them are but my point is that he is a Rams legend to their fans. Especailly my friends. As much as he hates the 9ers and always will you can bet it will be just a kick in the face to see it.

One last thought, I was just going to post yesterday when I saw that bruce was let go that we should pick him up. I thought he would be a great VET to have for a couple of years. However not at 3 mil per season,. I thought he might be a 1.5 to 2 mil guy but 3 is a little steep for the guy if you ask me.

[JJA]

I think thats a helleva deal for the dolphins. Especially considering what the Jags gave Porter.

Dolphins | Wilford contract details
Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:25:40 -0800

Updating a previous report, Adam Schefter, of NFL.com, reports the Miami Dolphins have signed unrestricted free-agent WR Ernest Wilford (Jaguars) to a four-year deal worth $13 million. The contract also includes a $6 million signing bonus and a $1 million escalator.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

I know we could never afford him, but what if?

Pats' Moss listening to other offers

By John Clayton
ESPN.com
(Archive)

Updated: February 29, 2008, 8:59 PM ET

The New England Patriots and Randy Moss aren't close to a deal and Moss is starting to listen to offers from other teams, according to a source.

Moss, who wasn't franchised by the Patriots, became a free agent after midnight Thursday. Though talks continue with the Patriots, the numbers aren't close enough for him to close his ears to other opportunities.

To facilitate a trade for the Patriots last spring, Moss took a $7 million paycut -- from $10 million to $3 million -- but shortened his contract to one year. The Patriots had the option of franchising him but decided to work out a contract with him.

As a free agent, Moss is available to the highest bidder. He would like to stay in New England with Tom Brady, but he could be available for the right offer. It is not known how many teams and which teams contacted him.

John Clayton is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com

It does however bring a smile to my face to witness the fall of the *Pats empire.

[JJA]

John Clayton also said Moss will probably get 10-11 mil/yr.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Shit if he wants to play for another contender he'll take less and like it.:D

[Sarge]

http://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?showtopic=40956

snicker, snicker.....

http://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?showtopic=40962


An offseason meltdown to keep fans in form for the regular season.....

It's funny how they blame the Steelers for Rodgers ending up with the Browns. The Browns are already leaps and bounds ahead of the Bungles, and are probably the best team on paper in our division. Why would the Rooney's want him to go there to make Cleveland even better? Buncha dumbasses over there.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

It's funny how they blame the Steelers for Rodgers ending up with the Browns. The Browns are already leaps and bounds ahead of the Bungles, and are probably the best team on paper in our division. Why would the Rooney's want him to go there to make Cleveland even better? Buncha dumbasses over there.

I busted up when I read this one:


WTF

ive never seen this

i thought it was basically official?

how the fuck does this happen?

wow life is gay

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Black Jesus is in full damage control since he posted it. I guess he blew his wad a bit early...LMFAO!

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Before I go absolutely ape shit berserk ... break my laptop ... go stab a baby in the head with a fork ... and light the first old lady I see in a wheel chair on fire in rage ... I am going to take a few Jaeger bombs ... and come back in an hour or two ... and this deal better be final.

[PsychoWard]

Browns just keep improving if they trade Bodden and a 3rd for Rogers. Man it would be nice to have some spending money.

[JJA]

So the Browns have given up their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks and there top CB?

[SteelerinMD]

Kittys are going nuts. First they loved Rogers. Pro Bowler, MVP, and Hall of Famer now that he WAS in Cincy. Now, appears set for Cleveland and he is a worthless fat piece of shit.

This is one of my favorite posts for the reasoning behind the deal being cancelled.

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QUOTE (Bengals1181 @ Feb 29 2008, 10:35 PM)
how quickly the haters become haters again, even though it appears that its the leagues fault, not the teams'.



While I agree with your general sentiment, we are now faced with two equally gob-smackingly horrible scenarios:

1) Bengals front office works on a trade all day and doesn't make it work under league rules. So in this case they are overmatched and incompetent.

2) Goodell really does have a personal agenda and the league really does have it out for the Brown family and Bengals (handling Odell, unfair suspensions, this trade)

Either option makes me want to give up the NFL.

[SteelerinMD]

sorry another gem: Now a hit, kinda reminds me of celebrating Ben's accident and praising the driver. This is truely sad...
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QUOTE (Scoutforlife591 @ Feb 29 2008, 11:02 PM)
I'm guessing he under the table told the Bengals they couldn't sign anyone with any character issues, and they'll cover it up with a salary cap technicality. This, followed by a potential Bengals grievance against the league. At least there are some positive qualities about Mike Brown and his loyalty/grudges.

Wierd.

I think this Goodell thing is really tarnishing my fan-ism. It's like there is a strike, such that I'm put off, but it's only my team.



Jeebus, that actually sounds realistic anymore. Can you imagine if that eventually comes out as the reason?? You could have about 60,000 normally sane fans putting a group hit on Goodell.

I have an irrational hate for this man right now. I'm starting to scare myself.

[TMC]

An ESPN article states that "language issues in the trade agreement" caused the NFL to void it, at which time, the Lions could have rewritten the agreement and sent it in, instead, they took Cleveland's better offer.

And, Cleveland pours the massive dickola to Cincy.

[Spike]

Hilarious!

....the league office rejected a trade that would have sent Rogers to the Bengals

Jaimie B......."Goodell just showed his black and gold colors again - what a bunch of bullshit"

[Clinton]

Assante Samuel to philly..the rats are abandoning the sinking ship?

[steelersoldier]

Just wanted to know everybody's opinion if we were to sign Asante Samuel.

[TX Steel]

Well, that would really be something...considering we'd have to sign him away from the Eagles.

[BLITZ 43]

Black Jesus is in full damage control since he posted it. I guess he blew his wad a bit early...LMFAO!

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Before I go absolutely ape berserk ... break my laptop ... go stab a baby in the head with a fork ... and light the first old lady I see in a wheel chair on fire in rage ... I am going to take a few Jaeger bombs ... and come back in an hour or two ... and this deal better be final.


This is fuckin great I am rolling on the floor what a asswipe man this made my morning, thanks! Hey BJ this is why your the BUNGALS!!!!!!!!!!!

[BLITZ 43]

Just wanted to know everybody's opinion if we were to sign Asante Samuel.

Are we working out a deal with Philly?? Will he fit under our cap???

[Supersteeler]

Lol, you beat me. Yeah I would say that would be a pretty tall order. I doubt they are ready to part with him after about 16 hours.

[Spike]

February 29, 2008, 5:13 PM ET

PHILADELPHIA -- The Eagles have signed free-agent cornerback Asante Samuel.

The Eagles agreed to a six-year contract on Friday with Samuel, who spent the last five seasons with New England and had 16 interceptions the last two years.

Samuel also tied the NFL career playoff record with three interceptions returned for TDs.

Philadelphia had only 11 interceptions last year and failed to score a defensive touchdown. Its defense had an NFL-worst 19 takeaways.

The Eagles will likely trade or shift positions for either Lito Sheppard or Sheldon Brown.

Samuel, a two-time Pro Bowl selection with two Super Bowl rings, has 22 career interceptions. He was protected by New England last year by the franchise player tag.

[Supersteeler]

Speaking of the Bengals, Justin Smith just landed in 9'er Land.

49ers lock up defensive end Smith with 6-year, $45 million deal

By Michael Smith
ESPN.com
(Archive)

Updated: March 1, 2008, 8:17 AM ET


The San Franciso 49ers and defensive end Justin Smith agreed to a six-year, $45 million contract that included $20 million in guarantees.

Smith, who had played all of his seven previous seasons in the NFL in Cincinnati, was given the franchise tag by the Bengals in 2007.

Smith was the fourth overall pick in the 2001 draft out of Missouri. He has 43 ½ career sacks but managed only two last season. Smith has played in 16 games every season except his rookie campaign when he made 15 appearances.

[Spike]

Holy schmokes!

That's crazy money for 2.5 sacks, he's OK - but not all that.

[SteelerScott]

We're bringing ChadScott and DwayneWashington into Latrobe;... so we'll be fine.

[thesteelcity]

as much I as I want the Steelers to jump into the FA Sweepstakes, there is no way I want them to spend that much on a decent player like Justn Smith or give $32 million to guard like Faneca. They have proved their place in the NFL, but damn, that's a ton of cash for one player..

[Supersteeler]

Can you imagine Shaun Rogers feelings right now?

Matt Millen: "Shaun we were able to work out a deal to trade you away".

Shaun: "Thank God, I'll play anywhere besides Detroit. So we am I going?"

Matt Millen: "Cleveland"

Shaun: "Fuck"

[Irv24]

Assante Samuel to philly..the rats are abandoning the sinking ship?

They have the #7 pick in the draft.
Their reign of terror is not over.

[Steelerman]

Can you imagine Shaun Rogers feelings right now?

Matt Millen: "Shaun we were able to work out a deal to trade you away".

Shaun: "Thank God, I'll play anywhere besides Detroit. So we am I going?"

Matt Millen: "Cleveland"

Shaun: ""

I'd rather play in Cleveland x10 rather than play in Cincy.

[Spike]

So Cleveland now has no draft picks on the first day - (1,2,3 - gone).

Interesting....they did beef up their D-line, but lost Bodden - so now their secondary is weaker.

Didn't The Redskins try this "buy me a team of old guys" philosophy before?

[Steelerman]

So Cleveland now has no draft picks on the first day - (1,2,3 - gone).

Interesting....they did beef up their D-line, but lost Bodden - so now their secondary is weaker.

Didn't The Redskins try this "buy me a team of old guys" philosophy before?

Maybe they will trade Quinn or DA and get a plethora of picks, etc in return. I can't see why they would sign Anderson to a three year deal without making a big move in the future regarding one of these two.

[Spike]

Apologies to TMC - but I changed your headline and put up the sticky.

Some people don't read so good, and need things simple to understand.

[avoidlloyd]

one of those qb's will be dealt and they will be back in the draft picture this year. I find it funny some people bashing cleveland about their moves of late. All they have done is gotten much better while we stand pat and get older. Cle is a much younger team ,williams and rogers are in their prime not past it. Phil Savage has owned the AFC north in the last few years. I cant wait to see our line against those two monsters. Poor Ben. I think Cleveland is clearly the front runner in our division and I dont think they are done yet.

[Beaker]

Mike Brown is a super genius! Most common folk just dont see it. he has cleverly manipulated the language in the trade agreement for rogers so that it would get turned down. This made those silly brownies think we really wanted him. So they try to steal him from us by giving up their remaining first day draft pick and their best corner. Now carson palmer can carve them apart with his devastating aerial attack. And the Bengals can now go get the real stud DT they truly coveted Dewayne Robinson from the jets without any opposition!

The brownies now have a fat DT who can only platoon because they run a 3-4 defense. On top of that, mike brown has deviantly placed a cancer in their locker room to tear apart team chemistry. The plan for AFCN domination is quietly falling into place...and you all just dont realize it!

mike brown, evil genius
http://zerotosixty.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/medium_dr_evil_1.jpg

Muahahahaha!

[Spike]

Goodall has a big zit on his ass and it's the Bengals. He hates you.

[Blind Official]

I wonder if our #3 and #5 picks will contribute more than Shawn Rogers?

[t-bone]

more like Mike Brown, fucking dolt.

[Spike]

Poor Ben. I think Cleveland is clearly the front runner in our division and I dont think they are done yet.

We're DOOMED!!!!!

People panic every year come FA time - seen it too many times not to laugh. Just like we would never beat last years Ratbird team - they were untouchable, and we were like, garbage.

It's all about the draft.

[TMC]

Apologies to TMC - but I changed your headline and put up the sticky.

Some people don't read so good, and need things simple to understand.

:(

I'll let it slide.

Once.

Only once.

[PsychoWard]

Originally Posted by avoidlloyd View Post
Poor Ben. I think Cleveland is clearly the front runner in our division and I dont think they are done yet.

Donte Stallworth also had a visit in Cleveland yesterday. I hope he doesn't sign there. Shit Brian St Pierre could light it up with Winslow, Edwards, Stallworth and Jurevicius.

[Spike]

I'll let it slide - this time

I should probably unsticky it - nobody looks up.

Done - free from the shackles

Thank you for your understanding in this delicate matter.

[TMC]

I wonder if our #3 and #5 picks will contribute more than Shawn Rogers?

The knocks on Rogers are pretty significant though.....his weight is listed at 340, but many feel his is well above 360, closer to 370. He disappears and is unmotivated at times and now there is a rumor that he will have some legal trouble for forcible groping of a stripper.

Detroit Lions defensive tackle Shaun Rogers is being investigated on an allegation of sexual assault after a stripper accused him of entering her dressing room and forcibly groping her last week, authorities confirmed Monday.

The 20-year-old woman, who dances at the Players Den on the city's west side, complained to Detroit police Saturday about the Thursday evening incident, police sources told The Detroit News.

Wayne County prosecutors are considering what, if any, charges may be filed.

The woman told police Rogers had a gun in his waistband, but did not say he pointed it at her, police said.

"We will proceed as usual, interviewing the alleged victim and any other potential witnesses," Miller said. "We don't anticipate that we will have a decision today."

Miller said the warrant request accuses Rogers, 28, of criminal sexual conduct, but she declined to elaborate. Depending on the degree, that charge can cover a wide range of sex crimes, from groping to rape.

The incident reportedly occurred at 1:15 a.m. Friday at a club on the city's west side. Authorities did not release details.

Sorry, I would rather piss away my picks than get involved in that mess. I think the Green Bay trade was smart.....but this one was one of those Madden trades where you want the player and do not have to worry about the baggage.

[BLITZ 43]

We're bringing ChadScott and DwayneWashington into Latrobe;... so we'll be fine.

Oh no curse you...lol!

[Blind Official]

We're DOOMED!!!!!

People panic every year come FA time - seen it too many times not to laugh. Just like we would never beat last years Ratbird team - they were untouchable, and we were like, garbage.

It's all about the draft.

The draft helped us beat the Ravens last year?

[Spike]

It's always all about the draft....for the Steelers.

The Ratbirds whole season fell apart when McNair & his line fell apart from old age.

[kurtistb]

We're DOOMED!!!!!

People panic every year come FA time - seen it too many times not to laugh. Just like we would never beat last years Ratbird team - they were untouchable, and we were like, garbage.

It's all about the draft.

Funniest part is that its always the same people saying virtually the same lines almost word for word.

[Spike]

Randy Moss is still available....

Oh yeah - we still need to sign Ben, how's that coming along?

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

We should go ahead and sign every notable free agent out there thus ensuring a superbowl championship......:rolleyes:

[Sean]

Randy Moss is still available....



Is there trouble in paradise?

Patriots | Moss looking elsewhere for contract?
Sat, 1 Mar 2008 06:39:12 -0800

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the New England Patriots and free-agent WR Randy Moss are not close to agreeing on a contract and Moss is starting to listen to offers from other teams, according to a source. It is not known how many teams and which teams contacted him.

[Sluzilla]

I can't believe we gave Kendall Simmons what we gave him.

he just looked bad because he had to cover for Mahan and Colon...

or was that the excuse for Faneca looking bad...

[Buster]

I'm kind of shocked that Bryant Johnson's name hasn't been flying around with several teams. If I was a Jags fan, I would be pissed that they threw the money they did @ Williamson & didn't consider Johnson.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

I'm kind of shocked that Bryant Johnson's name hasn't been flying around with several teams. If I was a Jags fan, I would be pissed that they threw the money they did @ Williamson & didn't consider Johnson.

I was reading he's going to visit with Buf.

[Southern Steeler]

but..........Buff's Canadian.

[JerseySteel]

I see Ricardo found a new Home I saw this on Rotoworld.com

Ricardo Colclough-DB-Panthers Mar. 1 - 2:41 pm et

Panthers signed CB Ricardo Colclough to a two-year, $4 million deal.

It's amazing a failed corner like Colclough, who washed out in Pittsburgh and Cleveland, can still get a decent deal this early in free agency. He is most likely to play on special teams.

[Sean]

49ers lock up defensive end Smith with 6-year, $45 million deal

The San Franciso 49ers and defensive end Justin Smith agreed to a six-year, $45 million contract that included $20 million in guarantees.

Smith, who had played all of his seven previous seasons in the NFL in Cincinnati, was given the franchise tag by the Bengals in 2007.

Smith was the fourth overall pick in the 2001 draft out of Missouri. He has 43 ½ career sacks but managed only two last season. Smith has played in 16 games every season except his rookie campaign when he made 15 appearances.

[TMC]

Not to be a gossip, but I believe your NFL Network ticker will start announcing that Marcus Stroud has been traded. I believe the cost was a 3rd and 5th from the Bills.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Stroud to the Bills:


by Jay Glazer

Updated: March 1, 2008, 3:43 PM EST
The Jacksonville Jaguars have traded defensive tackle Marcus Stroud to Buffalo for third- and fifth-round draft picks, FOXSports.com has learned.

More details to follow.

[60 MINUTES]

I see Ricardo found a new Home I saw this on Rotoworld.com

Ricardo Colclough-DB-Panthers Mar. 1 - 2:41 pm et

Panthers signed CB Ricardo Colclough to a two-year, $4 million deal.

It's amazing a failed corner like Colclough, who washed out in Pittsburgh and Cleveland, can still get a decent deal this early in free agency. He is most likely to play on special teams.



Wow! looking at big picture is GM planning for Cowhers arival year after this? You just never know.

[kurtistb]

I see Ricardo found a new Home I saw this on Rotoworld.com

Ricardo Colclough-DB-Panthers Mar. 1 - 2:41 pm et

Panthers signed CB Ricardo Colclough to a two-year, $4 million deal.

It's amazing a failed corner like Colclough, who washed out in Pittsburgh and Cleveland, can still get a decent deal this early in free agency. He is most likely to play on special teams.

Welcome to the new NFL. Since even bums get multi million dollar deals it is even more important to nail not only the draft but the udfa you bring in.

[thesteelcity]

Stroud to the Bills:


by Jay Glazer

Updated: March 1, 2008, 3:43 PM EST
The Jacksonville Jaguars have traded defensive tackle Marcus Stroud to Buffalo for third- and fifth-round draft picks, FOXSports.com has learned.

More details to follow.


if we didn't need so much heading in the draft, I would have made that trade for Stroud. He's a beast.

[Blind Official]

It appears that the Browns have signed Dontae Stallworth

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3272450

[Steel Conviction]

Browns beat Bengals to Rogers
Posted: Saturday March 01, 2008 07:31AM ET

A deal that would have sent Shaun Rogers to the Bengals fell through, prompting the Lions to turn to the Browns as a trade partner for the 370-pound nose tackle. The Lions and Browns centered their talks on a deal late Friday that would give the Lions cornerback Leigh Bodden and a third-round pick in the April draft. In the trade with the Bengals, the Lions would have gotten third- and fifth-round draft picks, also this year.


Ummm ...

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

The problem is these guys go into these trades expecting a new contract from the new team. We just don't have that kind of money to spend.

[Blind Official]

Seriously, does an entire other free agency thread mean nothing to you people?

[Steel Conviction]

Seriously, does an entire other free agency thread mean nothing to you people?

No, not really. I think that signings related to teams directly in our division (particularly major deals) deserve a thread of their own. Some people may like to see that news without diffing through 20 pages of chat about other signings.

If you didn't care to read the thread, you shouldn't have clicked it. If you felt it was a waste of your time, you wasted even more time responding to it.

But I love you anyway. Thanks. :D

[Tres Rios]

Sorry if this was mentioned but I went back 4 or 5 pages and didn't see it.

Bucs signed C Jeff Faine. Best FA Center out there. Guess we're sticking with Mahan. YES!

Tampa, FL (Sports Network) - The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have agreed to a contract with free-agent center Jeff Faine, who spent the past two seasons with division rival New Orleans.

According to the Tampa Tribune, the Bucs signed Faine to a six-year, $37.5 million contract that includes $15 million guaranteed, making him the highest- paid center in league history.

[Philthy]

Vikes ink Berrian to 6-year deal

Minnesota has acted swiftly to add a No. 1 receiver for young QB Tarvaris Jackson.

The Vikings have come to terms on a six-year deal with Bernard Berrian, sources have told FOXSports.com. The worth of the deal is not yet known.
Berrian was considered the No. 2 receiver on the open market behind Randy Moss. The Chicago Bears wanted to retain Berrian, who was the team's deep threat. But in the end, the deal Minnesota offered was too good to pass up.

With Berrian now gone, the Bears may look to Devin Hester to stretch the field in the passing game

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7860874/Sources:-Vikes-ink-Berrian-to-6-year-deal

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Sound like the Bears are fucked at WR.

[LeXX75]

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that the Jets have reached agreement with Alan Faneca on a four-year contract.
what most knew is offical I guess....

[LeXX75]

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that the Jets have reached agreement with Alan Faneca on a five-year, $40 million contract, with $21 million guaranteed.

The Jets added a year to the original offer, but Faneca will never see that money. He'll be lucky to see the fourth year. In the meantime, he'll bolster a pitiful interior rushing attack. The Jets are overpaying, but they have a leader to help their young linemen develop.

[Steelerfan81]

Damn, the Browns added Stallworth.. that blows.

I also noticed that Ricardo Colclough was cut by Cleveland and signed by Carolina..

[FlaStGrad]

It appears that the Browns have signed Dontae Stallworth

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3272450

Even more reason to go after Dominque Rodgers Cromartie for our 1st round pick. Facing The Shoe Bomber and the future Hall of Shammer twice a year and now Edwards and Stallworth twice a year. We need a better secondary. Thankfully, the OL runs deep this year.

[schoondog]

Thats ok steel, regardless what the mods say they really do enjoy merging threads.

[PsychoWard]

For real when are the Browns going to run out of money?

Look at their recent free agent signings (off the top of my head).

QB
Derek Anderson

RB
Jamal Lewis

WR
Joe Jurevicius
Donte Stallworth

OL
LeCharles Bentley
Eric Steinbach
Hank Fraley

DL
Shaun Rogers
Corey Williams

LB
Willie McGinest

CB
Gary Baxter

P
Dave Zastudil

I know a few of these guys have been busts there but shit they spend.

In that time we have brought in...

Cedrick Wilson
Najeh Davenport
Sean Mahan
Travis Kirschke

[TheStoneMan]

I dont know if anyone posted this yet so if they did i apologize..

Justin smith .. DE .. Bengals signs 6 yr deal with 49ers...

I guess that fantasy is officially over.

[SteelerFan448]

Talk about another team that has been spending recently, that is another big contract that the 49ers have added to their defense.

[Super Heathen]

The Bucs had 43.2 mil...have they signed any big names yet?

[TheStoneMan]

The Bucs had 43.2 mil...have they signed any big names yet?

jeff faine is the only name i've heard

[thesteelcity]

Super Bowl XLIII: 49ers vs. Browns

/the dawg pound

[PsychoWard]

The Bucs had 43.2 mil...have they signed any big names yet?


You got a list that has every teams cap number?

Bucs have signed C Jeff Faine from New Orleans and TE John Gimore from Chicago

[Smidrow]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3272450

This guy is an average ball player but still gets a contract like this. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

[Steelers.exe]

All because he ran a 4.29 40.

[Far51]

they will regret the length of the deal

[Stlrs4Life]

Why is that?

[Avoid Lloyd1975]

This guy was one of my favorite receivers back in his college days at Tennessee, he went to the Saints and I sort of always hoped he do well. Then he went to the Pats and the rest is history. Ultra fast feet doesn't equal great hands. The Browns over-paid. He will get his touches here and there but I don't foresee him having any better numbers or maybe not anywhere near as close as than what he had with the Pats last season 46 for 697 3 TDs, with Derek Anderson throwing him the ball and Braylon/Winslow ahead of him on the playcalling and Lewis totin' the rock.

[In Ben We Trust]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3272450

This guy is an average ball player but still gets a contract like this. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

No offense Smidrow but stuff like this cracks me up. If the Steelers had bucked up and signed a talented player like Stallworth we would have been excited about him, since it's the Browns he sucks and is overpaid. At least the Browns have the balls to go for the talent while the Steelers throw cash at Nick Mahan and the rest of the stiffs on the o-line.
It's ok though, we have stonehands Nate, Ced, and an aging Hines to throw to....let's stand pat.....:mad::mad::mad:

[Supersteeler]

N
It's ok though, we have stonehands Nate, Ced, and an aging Hines to throw to....let's stand pat.....:mad::mad::mad:

Ummm we have a guy named Holmes too, he's pretty good.

[Big Fella]

No offense Smidrow but stuff like this cracks me up. If the Steelers had bucked up and signed a talented player like Stallworth we would have been excited about him, since it's the Browns he sucks and is overpaid. At least the Browns have the balls to go for the talent while the Steelers throw cash at Nick Mahan and the rest of the stiffs on the o-line.
It's ok though, we have stonehands Nate, Ced, and an aging Hines to throw to....let's stand pat.....:mad::mad::mad:

Dante Stallworth:

1,000 yard seasons: O

10 TD's seasons O

Teams in last 4 seasons 4

Pardon me for not being impressed../

[jpele]

No offense Smidrow but stuff like this cracks me up. If the Steelers had bucked up and signed a talented player like Stallworth we would have been excited about him, since it's the Browns he sucks and is overpaid. At least the Browns have the balls to go for the talent while the Steelers throw cash at Nick Mahan and the rest of the stiffs on the o-line.
It's ok though, we have stonehands Nate, Ced, and an aging Hines to throw to....let's stand pat.....:mad::mad::mad:


No offense In Ben We Trust, but the Steelers are two years removed from a Super Bowl and with rare exception are in the playoffs every year ( Sucks to have a FO like that.) On the othe hand ,the Browns that you seem to admire, well why don't you tell us a little more about them

[BlkNGoldBlood10]

Dante Stallworth:

1,000 yard seasons: O

10 TD's seasons O

Teams in last 4 seasons 4

Pardon me for not being impressed../

T.R.U.E.

He is not impressive...he is just...fast

[Far51]

Why is that?

he is 27 and looking at the trend recently guys are more than ever breaking up after 30,
7 years 35 mill avg to 5 mill, but I doubt he makes it to year 5 of that deal either he will be washed up or a cap dump, 7 year deals to mid 20 year old's are now becoming more dangerous than ever.

a 5 year would have been safer.

[TMC]

BERRIAN BREAKS THE BANK

Receiver Bernard Berrian has officially joined the Vikings. And he will be extremely well compensated for it.

According to Adam Schefter of NFL Network, it's a six-year, $42 million contract, with $16 million guaranteed.

For Bernard Berrian.

Let's be clear on this. Berrian's best season came in 2007, with 71 receptions for 951 yards and five touchdowns.

And he gets $16 million guaranteed?

Randy Moss, in contrast, had 98 catches for 1,453 yards and 23 touchdowns. So if Berrian is worth $16 million in guaranteed money, how much should Moss get? Should he get $20 million? Maybe $25 million?

Dare we say . . . $30 million?

And though we realize that Berrian has been stuck in a vertically-challenged offense, would Berrian have had the impact on the Pats that Moss did?

Hey, it's a good deal for Berrian. But it really throws a wrench in the plans of the Pats, or anyone else who has designs on landing Moss.

[Blind Official]

These contracts make me glad. Mostly because the Pats have to sign Moss and this will hopefully drive his price WAY up

[Punxsutawney]

Stallworth was a nice addition to the Browns as he will prove to be a solid complement to Winslow and Edwards. Though his suspect route running will prevent him from ever putting up great numbers, opposing defenses have to respect his ability to stretch the field.

It is discouraging to watch a division rival like the Browns, who finished with the same record as the Steelers in 2007, strengthen their weaknesses along the d-line and at WR while the Steelers sit idol with their thumbs up their a$$es.

[Andymisiu]

We don't need another short speedy WR!!!!! we need a big target!!!! Holmes is our Stallworth just Holmes is much better in my book. Our problem is.... we don't create problems for D's in the secondary. Holmes is great!! but doesn't require a double team. Heath creates a good mismatch with LB's and creates a small problem for the secondary. The truth is..... we don't have a true number one anymore. Stallworth is not a number one! he was brought in to take heat off of Edwards. We need a true number one to take the heat!! Ward is the best possession WR in the game!! Holmes is a super! great! and awesome number 2.

To make a long story short! even if Stallworth is worth the money he got......... we don't need him!!

[Vader]

Where would he have played here? You aren't going to sit Ward or Holmes and that is way to much money for a 3rd WR. That's why I would like to draft a WR. The draft pick will be cheaper, younger, and be ready to start when Ward is ready to retire.

[In Ben We Trust]

No offense In Ben We Trust, but the Steelers are two years removed from a Super Bowl and with rare exception are in the playoffs every year ( Sucks to have a FO like that.) On the othe hand ,the Browns that you seem to admire, well why don't you tell us a little more about them


Hey Pele stick to soccer.....I hate the friggin Browns as much as anyone else on here but you cannot deny that the Cleveland Browns (who finished with the same record as us by the way) have gone out and made improvements to their team this offseason. What have the Steelers done????? I know that is the Steeler way but next season's schedule cries to go out and make this team better....if we stand pat and do not improve the o-line and wide receiver positions, our team is going 6-10. We have a small window right now with our franchise qb heading into his best years....get him the protection and weapons at all cost if you are serious about winning.

[Andymisiu]

Hey Pele stick to soccer.....I hate the friggin Browns as much as anyone else on here but you cannot deny that the Cleveland Browns (who finished with the same record as us by the way) have gone out and made improvements to their team this offseason. What have the Steelers done????? I know that is the Steeler way but next season's schedule cries to go out and make this team better....if we stand pat and do not improve the o-line and wide receiver positions, our team is going 6-10. We have a small window right now with our franchise qb heading into his best years....get him the protection and weapons at all cost if you are serious about winning.

What have the Steelers done?????? :mad: the Browns are making moves to get to a plain we're already standing on!!!!!!! we've made the moves and built the team!!!! we just won the superbowl!!! and we just came from a playoff run!! question is......... what have the Browns done?

[ConnecticutDan]

Saints - Eagles - Pats - Browns, all in what 4 or 5 years? Dude lives out of a suitcase.

[Aries1247]

He won't see year 3 of that deal.

[schoondog]

lance briggs re-signs with the bears.

six-year, $36 million deal. Agent Drew Rosenhaus said Briggs will earn $21.6 in salary through the first three years and the deal includes $13 million in guaranteed bonuses.

[Hollywood Bags]

Great pickup for the Clowns, he is a great 2nd WR and with Edwrdas and the Soldier will create some severe headaches for the defense. Laugh all you want but the Clowns have a ton of weapons and are more diversified than the Steelers offensively right now. We may still beat them but the task is getting harder every day.

[Mahangina]

Unless Stallworth can play defense I don't think he makes that team any better. They could already score points. Anyone see them at 11-5 or 12-4 next year now that they have Stallworth?

[Superman]

i dont know, but your user name cracks me the fuck up

[Blind Official]

What have the Steelers done?????? :mad: the Browns are making moves to get to a plain we're already standing on!!!!!!! we've made the moves and built the team!!!! we just won the superbowl!!! and we just came from a playoff run!! question is......... what have the Browns done?

As everyone said, "the team" finished the same as the Browns did last year.

"The Super Bowl" has nothing to do with the 2008 version of "the team"

We just came from a playoff loss, at home, against the Jags (who are also shuffling players in and out)

[Hollywood Bags]

Unless Stallworth can play defense I don't think he makes that team any better. They could already score points. Anyone see them at 11-5 or 12-4 next year now that they have Stallworth?

Corey Williams and Shaun Rogers play some great D.

[Steel Dino]

Jason Taylor is rumored to be leaving the Phins......

Anyone else got a feelin' he will end up with the