Polamalu maybe forced to get a haircut

[schoondog]

Thanks to the Chiefs, who consider long hair a uniform violation. another dumb rule mayb force players with long hair to get it cut.

A hairy issue
In what could be a boon for barbershops, the NFL’s competition committee is considering a rule that would ban players from having their hair cover or obscure the names on the back of player’s jersey


The Kansas City Chiefs proposed the rule that is expected to be debated, and voted on, at the league’s annual meeting later this month in Palm Beach, Fla.

It already generated discussion during a week’s worth of competition committee meetings in Naples, Fla., earlier this month.

Should it pass, it instantly would generate public debate and force players such as Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu and Jacksonville cornerback Rashean Mathis to get a haircut.

The Chiefs view longer hair as a uniform violation. But others could interpret it as a safety violation. When Kansas City played Pittsburgh in October 2006, Chiefs running back Larry Johnson pulled down Polamalu from behind grabbing ahold of his hair.

There apparently has been no empirical data that supports that longer hair is a safety issue, but it is an issue with at least one team. And it will generate discussion and debate.

It is hardly something that has the NFL pulling out its hair. But it is something that soon could have players trimming theirs.


http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story;jsessionid=EDB1B85340613F3DFF69DCCF920B92DB? id=09000d5d80753d85&template=with-video&confirm=true

[cpollock]

I doubt they can force them to cut their hair .. but they could require that non of it extend outside of the helmet ..

[CAH]

So let them cut their hair. BFD They earn enough to afford a barber. :rolleyes:

[Steelerschic]

LMAO ...picturing football players running around with hairnets on! :D

[Diamond Dave]

Pony tail tucked underneath the shoulder pads.

Done and done.

[Sluzilla]

i can see the obscuring the name as a uniform violation...but as others have said...there's ways to get around that without cutting the hair...

[Steelerschic]

i can see the obscuring the name as a uniform violation...but as others have said...there's ways to get around that without cutting the hair...

They could put their names across their butts.

[Diamond Dave]

LMAO ...picturing football players running around with hairnets on! :D

They're called skull caps.

[FAB802]

I can't believe people are shocked. They fine players for dumb shit like towels being too long and their socks not being up.

[LetMePlay]

Pony tail tucked underneath the shoulder pads.

Done and done.

No. Thats too easy.

We must call a meeting to order. There must be procedures. Things tabled. There must be discussion. Someone must call the question.

[Sean]

The Kansas City Chiefs proposed the rule that is expected to be debated, and voted on, at the league’s annual meeting later this month in Palm Beach, Fla.


It might be the only thing that Kansas City Chiefs win this year.

[t-bone]

and Troy said...

1. it didn't hurt

2. he didn't care

did Herm sign Delilah or sumpin'?

[Avoid Lloyd1975]

Isn't it part of Troy's religious beliefs or something, a sign of his strength? Troy will just go Jimmy Super Fly Snuka on them if they try to make him cut his hair.

[Booted]

Almost cut my hair
It happened just the other day
It's gettin kinda long
I coulda said it was in my way
But I didn't and I wonder why
I feel like letting my freak flag fly
Cause I feel like I owe it to someone

Must be because I had the flu' for Christmas
And I'm not feeling up to par
It increases my paranoia
Like looking at my mirror and seeing a police car
But I'm not giving in an inch to fear
Cause I missed myself this year
I feel like I owe it to someone

When I finally get myself together
I'm going to get down in that sunny southern weather
And I find a place inside to laugh
Separate the wheat from the chaff
I feel like I owe it to someone

[Zack_of_Steel]

This, in my opinion, is really stupid. If it doesn't hurt it shouldn't matter. Plus I think dreads and Polamalu's hair look cool.

[DerbyCityBNGfan]

troy will get around it in one way or another. a small fine each game if necessary? i dunno. all i know is that is a lot of hair to put up when the helmet is considered. good luck to the polynesian punisher this upcoming season, we need him to stay healthy.

[terriblewashcloth]

Isn't it part of Troy's religious beliefs or something, a sign of his strength? Troy will just go Jimmy Super Fly Snuka on them if they try to make him cut his hair.

Yes - not religion, but culture. The Samoan warriors used wore their hair long when they went to battle.

[CoSteelrgrl]

Maybe that's it--KC is using psychological warfare.

[CAH]

I remember seeing Polamalu with short hair and the pic was probably taken at the time he came to the Steelers.

[tjack]

And next weeks vote will be about Players with Grizzly Adams type of beards on camera at press conferences or locker interviews.

[TheStoneMan]

i remember when the chiefs RB larry johnson pulled malu down by his locks ... he didnt cry so let the man keep his SHT

[Hollywood Bags]

Put it under the helmet, it looks stupid and unprofessional out anyway.

[Secret Santa]

As long as they dont make it illegal to film other teams signals or make it have tougher punishment by rule, I'm OK with them taking care of this important stuff.

[Big Fella]

Put it under the helmet, it looks stupid and unprofessional out anyway.

How do you figure?

If I wore shoulder pads and spandex to work that would be considered unprofessional.

If I wore a helmet, or hat, or face mask...

If I wore eye black...

[Hollywood Bags]

He looks the fool with his hair flying all around. Wear it how you like off the field but on the field it looks stupid IMO.

[GIJohnny]

Almost cut my hair
It happened just the other day
It's gettin kinda long
I coulda said it was in my way
But I didn't and I wonder why
I feel like letting my freak flag fly
Cause I feel like I owe it to someone

Great song by CSNY...Karma to you Booted

[Ike Kelly]

I remember seeing Polamalu with short hair and the pic was probably taken at the time he came to the Steelers.

He hasn't cut his hair short since his sophmore year at USC

[ekeicher16]

I don't want Troy to be looking like dirty ass TJ Houshmanillly with a ponytail

[MattArndt]

I guess gold teeth enhance safety.

Talk about looking like a fool on the field.

[BermudaSteel]

No. Thats too easy.

We must call a meeting to order. There must be procedures. Things tabled. There must be discussion. Someone must call the question.

"Ahem...my question: what was on the tapes, Commissioner G? But moving on to a lighter topic, can we do something about the long hair over the nameplates?"

[CAH]

He hasn't cut his hair short since his sophmore year at USC

I wasn't sure but they show that pic a lot during the Steelers games. Guess they show quite a few college pics. Wonder why he didn't wear his hair long in college?

[Ben#7]

Maybe that's it--KC is using psychological warfare.


The Chiefs represent Indian Chiefs. Most Indians have long hair.:D

[Steelers.exe]

He needs to cut that nappy shit off anyway. It looks like ass.

[bfox20]

If my hair could grow like that I would let it grow but mine doesn't do that so I shave it off. If it is a good look for you than let it grow.

[Steeltime]

Polamolu says that letting his hair grow is part of his culture and heritage. It is not a religious issue, since he is a Christian. He also insists that his long hair provides extra protection from concussions.

[bigtwnvin]

The rule/ fine is BS. WTF cares as long a Polamalu sacks QBs, INT passes and makes good tackles.
What a fa-King crock!

[Guttpuppy]

He looks the fool with his hair flying all around. Wear it how you like off the field but on the field it looks stupid IMO.

Polamalu keeps his hair long because of his heritage, symbolism, and attachment to his culture. I guess you look like a fool to people who don't go to your church, or sacrifice goats, or whatever the hell you do... you're an idiot, IMO.

[Ghost of Frenchy Fuqua]

They're called skull caps.

The Jewish players in the league would call them yarmulkas or kippahs...

[swanny88]

I guess they are looking at it as maybe it could become dangerous. You know somebody is gonna get tackled again and maybe this time they get their neck broken or something. I know that a neck getting broken can happen on any play.

[bradentonfan]

Polamalu keeps his hair long because of his heritage, symbolism, and attachment to his culture. I guess you look like a fool to people who don't go to your church, or sacrifice goats, or whatever the hell you do... you're an idiot, IMO.

thank you..... some people are pretty ignorant to anything outside their narrow view

[SteelrzGirl]

Im so glad the league doesnt have bigger things to worry about like sweeping blatant cheating under the rug.

I really cant remember the last time I felt so disgusted with the Steelers and the league.

2008 sucks and with each passing news day it gets worse or dumber and sometimes both.

I dont expect the suckfest is near to over for this team or the league. I just have a bad feeling.

[Hollywood Bags]

Polamalu keeps his hair long because of his heritage, symbolism, and attachment to his culture. I guess you look like a fool to people who don't go to your church, or sacrifice goats, or whatever the hell you do... you're an idiot, IMO.

Dumbass, he can wear his hair as long as he wants, I have ZERO issues with it, its his hair and he can wear it as he wishes ON the field it looks like shit and brings attention to him , I wonder if he was a Stain if you and others would care so much about it. He needs to put it under wraps DURING the game, got it asshat ?

[south dakota STEEL]

Lot more important issues facing the NFL than someones hair.

And I could care less what team a guy w/ long hair plays for, HB. He chooses to have it, fine by me.

[bradentonfan]

Dumbass, he can wear his hair as long as he wants, I have ZERO issues with it, its his hair and he can wear it as he wishes ON the field it looks like shit and brings attention to him , I wonder if he was a Stain if you and others would care so much about it. He needs to put it under wraps DURING the game, got it asshat ?

what are some sort of twisted real life Hank Hill?
didn't you get enough of bashin' "longhairs" in the 60's-70's
didn't think hair styles have been an issue for at least 20 years,, but feel free to bring back this type of discrimination....... got it JohnDeereHat.... there, a hat name for you too.

[bradentonfan]

LC wouldn't like his nick name associated with that type of thing...... he was different too, thus his gold shoes.... the man with the gold shoes calling out somebody with long hair, oh the irony

[Hollywood Bags]

Are you that stupid ? I DON'T care how a person wears their hair ,I care how a player plays and conforms ON the field. Nice try and being funny and casting me as a redneck, does your dumbfuck ass know if I am white or black? Go back and fuck your sister asshat.

[FAB802]

I'm sure if he cut his hair he would tackle better and stay healthy.

[bradentonfan]

must of hit a nerve there, no tough guy wants to get personal..... keep it up toughy
keep telling the rest of us how to keep our hair or how we should think since you know so much better
now, you go poke your dog, smartfuck buttcap! redneck discribes a way a person acts or thinks, the word doesn't care what color you are.... puss-beanie
that how this works...... fyi cap is another word for hat..... pp-hat!
this is fun.... hooray hats
maybe he can use this asshat to cover his long hair

[Hollywood Bags]

Asswipe, please try and learn to read and COMPREHEND. I have NEVER voiced an opinion on Troy's hair length NEVER . I said he should tuck it in DURING games as it looks unprofessiona;, a HUGE difference but then sister fucking inbreds like you miss subtelty and nuance.

Also, learn how to use complete sentences, people might actually read your insipid posts, naaaahhhhhhhhh.

[bradentonfan]

now I'm inbred too....oooooohh
please be from florida.... you quick witted smart cussing mouth you
bet you aren't this tough in person
please be from florida
I'll be your huckleberry

[Hollywood Bags]

I see you haven't addressed the issue or found any EVIDENCE I care about Troy's hair length.

It took you this long and two responses to get the inbred reference ? Talk about subtelty and nuance, I called you out for fucking you sister

[bradentonfan]

yep, you're coolest.. you win, doodyhat

[Big Fella]

Are you that stupid ? I DON'T care how a person wears their hair ,I care how a player plays and conforms ON the field. Nice try and being funny and casting me as a redneck, does your dumbfuck ass know if I am white or black? Go back and fuck your sister asshat.

I've already questioned your claim of the unprofessional look to his hair. I don't understand how professional athletes should "look" on the field. I can't wear spandex, or eye black, or shoulder pads to work. Looking "professional" is not really a requirement in pro sports. Sure the NFL has rules on towel and sock length, but the majority of those rules are to protect sponsorship deals.

All I can gather from this entire post is that you think it looks unprofessional, a claim which you have yet to back up. Your second claim is "it looks stupid," which is fine for an opinion but really fails to lend any support to your argument.

I'm also having a difficult time wondering why you care how a player "conforms" on the field. I guess you feel Troy's flowing hair is an attention grabber that fails to mesh with the team look. Fortunately, Mr. Rooney apparently doesn't agree.

Call me an asshat or dumb-fuck, I'll be super impressed.

[Hollywood Bags]

Whats is so hard to understand, his hair flying way outside his helmet looks stupid and unprofessional. Why not let players wear and do what they want. Its called a UNIFORM for a reason, all the players are to dress and look UNIFORMLY.

[Hollywood Bags]

By the way, nice touch bringing in Mr. Rooney who is all knowing, all omnipotent and all everything , especially liked him justifying Harrison's criminal actions by saying it was for a good reason, baptism. Think he was right on that one ?

[Hollywood Bags]

Also, am I allowed to defend myself from a racist piece of shit like Bradenton who calls me a redneck John Deere fool for ERRONEOUSLY slamming me for wanting Troy's hair cut. I could give a shit what a man does with his hair,, I never advocated Troy cutting his hair maybe Bradenton's homosexual love for Troy's hair makes him super defensive.

[Steelerfan81]

HB.. I don't think if he played for the Browns anyone on this board would be bitching about his hair.. I don't see people bitching about Mike McKenzie, or Edge when he had dreads..

[Guttpuppy]

you're an idiot, IMO.

Confirmed.:rolleyes:

[Hollywood Bags]

Gutpuppy, try and think for a change.

Good point 81, I just think it looks like crap flying all over the place. In the corporate world Troy would have to wear his hair tucked in along with wearing his uniform, i.e. his suit, the NFL is a huge corporate conglomerate and is about to fix this image thing, bank on it.

[Big Fella]

By the way, nice touch bringing in Mr. Rooney who is all knowing, all omnipotent and all everything , especially liked him justifying Harrison's criminal actions by saying it was for a good reason, baptism. Think he was right on that one ?

In my opinion there is a difference.

First of all, if we want to bring in "real world" examples, this is perfect. The one with more talent, more ability, that brings more to the table gets the second chance in every facet of life. So all things equal, I don't mind a double standard.

He certainly did not justify Harrison's actions. That said, Cedrick has now been in two incidents to Harrison's one. And slapping a chick and punching a chick, while both wrong, are two different things. An emotional response to his girlfriend not following up on pre-arranged pick up compared to walking into a bar. I do see a difference.

If Troy worked in the corporate world his hair would not be permitted like that. If Troy operated heavy machinery in certain instances, his hair could be considered a danger. Troy could not work in food service with his hair like that. You've made that point time and time again, the problem is, it isn't a good point for this discussion.

All I'm still interpreting from you is, you don't like it so it's stupid.

[Hollywood Bags]

So because YOU think its acceptable its OK. You decide it is not a good point BUT the NFL is all about uniformity and conformity. Why don't we let all the players wear what they want, its no big deal and they have the right to express themselves anyway they want, BULLSHIT? The NFL will make Troy wear his hair tucked in, I will agree with the rule, you won't big deal.

As for Rooney, he did differentiate Harrison's actions by saying it was done for a good reason. It is NEVER a good reason fpr a man to hit a woman but you know that. He may not have condoned harrison's actions but he did rationalize and minimize them, DUMB move.

[Big Fella]

So I point to Rooney not having a problem with Polamalu's hair and you discredit a great man. Then, you turn to the great all knowing over-Lord NFL claiming they'll outlaw flowing hair. I doubt it. We shall see. For one that doesn't like double standards, your logic is interesting.

[Hollywood Bags]

By the way you are wrong about the hair, etc. not being relevant in a corporate world like the NFL.

The New York Yankees have a no facial hair, no long hair policy. How does that work for them ? players represent the team and wear a uniform, they are PROPERTY of the team and must abide by their rules and the team has a right to set the rules. Players do not have the right to do as they see fit.

The NFL is all about image and rules, no socks falling down, no jerseys worn outside, etc. Troy's hai is not in accordance with the NFL image and will be banned IMO, we shall see.

I did not discredit Rooney, YOU brought himn up in this debate as a strawman to try and rationalize your flawed argument.

[Hollywood Bags]

By the way, where did the do rag, tear away jerseys and the like go in the NFL ? They were banned as the NFL did not like their connotations, read between the lines.

[Big Fella]

I was making the point that the team owner obviously does not care about his hair, apparently George Steinbrenner does. I'm not saying Rooney does not have the right, he does. I'm going to try to wear a baseball hat and eye black to work, I'll let you know how that works out for me.

Long hair has been in the NFL for many years now. One team has an issue, that is the Chiefs, and I bet it stops there.

And it's funny how you assume I'll disagree with the possible rule change. I personally won't care. I'm a football fan, I couldn't give a shit what they look like. I'm merely amused at how much you do care.

[Hollywood Bags]

I don't assume, you said earlier in the thread that fortunately Mr. Rooney doesn't agree with me on Troy's hair. Why would it be fortunate if you don't agree with Ronney ?Try and backpedal from that one.

You also said I was wrong in equating the corporate world with a dress code for pro sports, I proved you wrong with the Yankee example.

Care to continue ?

[Big Fella]

.....You did?

Well I'll let you know how my eyeblack and baseball hat go tomorrow.

Clearly there are dress codes. You pointed out the Yankees, the NBA is a more recent, well known example as well. But when it comes to on-court apparel, just about anything goes. Some shorts are long, some guys wear headbands, some guys wear arm sleeves. No tights allowed, though.

While leagues have dress-codes, the comparisons to the corporate world are still off. Some of this is the culture of the sport, and some of it the culture of the office.

So you don't like the hair? Fine. Should they stop cursing? And sometimes when they bleed, it is unsightly, that should stop too.

I'll slap one of my co-workers on the ass tomorrow, I'll let you know how that goes.

Obviously leagues are going to be concerned with image, I still can't figure out why anyone else gives a fuck.

[Hollywood Bags]

The unifom code is what the league decrees it to be, why is that hard for you to understandand . They will act to get rid of this
look like they did the do rag.
You beat the eyeblack and hat shit to death, it is irrelevant. Then you bring up the NBA and again are wrong. It is not anything goes as far as it goes, NO jewelry of any kind, no difference in socks or any additions to the uniform, must wear the shorts tucked in etc.

As for cussding, bleeding, etc. all straw man arguments.

[Big Fella]

How is cussing a straw man when it comes to image?

If you are going to have personal concerns about athletes and their decorum, at least let them be things that are worthy of concern.

If I had a son I was watching a game with and he asked me about Troy Polamalu's hair, the answer is simple. "It is a cultural sign of strength." Not only is the answer simple, it might actually encourage a young person to become more familiar with Samoa and Samoan culture.

If he asked me, "Why did Ben Roethlisberger just say fuck?"... Thats slightly challenging as a parent.

During the Duke/UNC game at the end of the NCAA regulation Dickie V was talking about how great DeMarcus Nelson was as they showed his parents on camera. As the camera panned back to the game, it zoomed in on Nelson just as he was letting an expletive fly. With HD now so prevalent, this would be a much greater concern of mine if i was a league official.

We can just quit responding because you're dead set against the hair, and I couldn't really give a fuck. I'll just never understand people like you standing up and applauding regulation that doesn't negatively effect people one way or the other. Its not like you are protesting big business getting away with pollution, you are protesting how another dude wears his hair. (Awesome, bro)

If the NFL or individual teams ban a certain hairstyle, brand, article of clothing, or whatever, that is within their right. But again, I don't get why you care. I have some ideas, but I'll keep them to myself. Have a good night, sir. Enjoy doing your part for humanity.

[GoSteelers]

i like his hair the way it is and he should let it flow. and i have seen a lot of corporate guys with ponytails and they were not fired for having long hair. the NFL will do nothing but let it up to the teams themselves to force any stupid rule on hair length.

[Sluzilla]

The unifom code is what the league decrees it to be, why is that hard for you to understandand . They will act to get rid of this look like they did the do rag.

although i think they will do something about the hair...hair is not part of the uniform...anymore than tattoos are...so your argument here would be basically what you are calling a strawman in other's arguments...

[JEFFRO]

If the Chiefs would get a clue as to how to run a franchise maybe they wouldn't have so much time on their hands worrying about trying to regulate hair length or getting 2 more seeds in the playoffs.

Hey Chief's look in your own back yard...fix it and stop worrying about everybody else's.

[Hollywood Bags]

So Slu are you saying the Yankees and other sports team cannot outlaw long hair orfacial hair? You are wrong. As for tattoos of the team likes they can make the player cover them up via long sleeves , etc. he team and the league can set whatever policy they like.

Big Fella, I coluld give a what personal rights are trashed by the NFL for an overpaid bunch of millionaires and if it takes Troy's long hair to ignite your child's academic curiosity [I] feel sorry for him. Nice of you to know bring your child into the argument after the Rooney one faikled, grasp at many straws do you ?

[south dakota STEEL]

although i think they will do something about the hair...hair is not part of the uniform...anymore than tattoos are...so your argument here would be basically what you are calling a strawman in other's arguments...

Nice point on the tats, Slu. Have often wondered about the gang or college frat tats being allowed.

Me, I watch football for the contest. I want to see people w/ their shirts untucked 'cause they just got slobber-knocked. I want to see hair flying all over the field. I want sweat, blood on uni's, and swearing. It's a battle.

And yes, I have children. They know it's a violent game. People will curse and act violent, but it's on the field of play. (usually)

What's sad, is the more restricted the NFL becomes, the phonier it seems to get.

[Big Fella]

Big Fella, I coluld give a what personal rights are trashed by the NFL for an overpaid bunch of millionaires and if it takes Troy's long hair to ignite your child's academic curiosity [I] feel sorry for him. Nice of you to know bring your child into the argument after the Rooney one faikled, grasp at many straws do you ?

Keep waiving that flag my man!

[Hollywood Bags]

Keep backpedaling after a beatdown my man

[Big Fella]

Keep backpedaling after a beatdown my man

LOL!

You've made 2 points.

A) His hair looks yucky and you don't like it.

B) Leagues/teams have the right to ban his hair.

A I think you are a faggot for, and B I agree with with. Hardly a scratch as you failed to even make a solid point.

[Sluzilla]

So Slu are you saying the Yankees and other sports team cannot outlaw long hair orfacial hair? You are wrong. As for tattoos of the team likes they can make the player cover them up via long sleeves , etc. he team and the league can set whatever policy they like.

are you saying the Yankees are equated to the NFL?...if long hair or facial hair was a league uniform violation it would be league wide...it's a team decision for the Yankees...

yes...the league can set whatever policy they like...as in...the cussing...which didn't fit your argument at the time so you dismissed it as a strawman argument...just as i'm pointing out the hair and tattoos are not actually part of the uniform...

[Big Fella]

I think what Slu is saying is....

Not only did you not kick my ass, you didn't even win.

[Hollywood Bags]

So the Yankees are not the same as the teelers in your mind ? The Yankees play in a league with a much much much tougher vunion and yet they are OK in banning facial hair and long hair.

What does cussing have to do with this argument[I]f an NFL player cusses in an interview, etc. he can and will be fined so what again is the point ?[

Hair is not part of the uniform but adhering to any policy the NFL deems necessary can make the player cut or bind his hair so it is not free flowing and you know this but keep em coming.

[Hollywood Bags]

I didn't win, LOL, you said you didn't care what Troy did, I pointed out your statement of bias. You said I couldn't equate the corporate world to sports and I brought out the Yankees code. Now you try Rooney and your kid and I show where Rooney made a big mistake just this week and your kid is a non starter.

By the way, when the NFL makes it an infraction to wear your hair loose like Troy's will you still cling to your "victory" ?

[JohnnyO]

I always liked this shirt at Cafe Press.

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[Hollywood Bags]

By the way Slu and Big Fella, cussing would be in the same category as taunting, etc. It is a behavior problem not a uniform problem but then you both knew that and you needed the straw man argument as the uniform one wasn't going to well.

[Sluzilla]

So the Yankees are not the same as the teelers in your mind ? The Yankees play in a league with a much much much tougher vunion and yet they are OK in banning facial hair and long hair.

neither the steelers nor the chiefs will be the one to make polamalu get a trim...it will be the league...again...are you comparing the Yankees to the NFL...

What does cussing have to do with this argument[I]f an NFL player cusses in an interview, etc. he can and will be fined so what again is the point ?

it was brought up as something more important that hair...and not in an interview setting...you said it was a strawman argument...just as i showed you your argument could be construed as...

Hair is not part of the uniform but adhering to any policy the NFL deems necessary can make the player cut or bind his hair so it is not free flowing and you know this but keep em coming.

just as the league could take care of the language caught on tape...and you know this...but keep em coming...

just because you never like to admit you are wrong...doesn't mean people aren't going to show you when you are...you can't ignore things just because they don't fit your particular argument...

[Hollywood Bags]

I haven't been wrong in this thread and you know it.

Big Fella said you can't compare the corporate world to the sports world I showed him evidence where you can.

The cussing argument is meaningless, it has nothing to do with uniforms or hair and is addressed via fines soagain what the fuck sare you talking about.

The Steelers can invoke anything they want on appearance but again you say that is not true WITHOUT giving evidence. The team controls everything that happens between the lines and off the field, they have huge leeway.

I think it is obvious fvrom this thread who is pro and anti union. I side with management and you and Big Fella are true blue union and everything you see is through that prism.

[Sluzilla]

By the way Slu and Big Fella, cussing would be in the same category as taunting, etc. It is a behavior problem not a uniform problem but then you both knew that and you needed the straw man argument as the uniform one wasn't going to well.

again...hair and tattoos are not part of the uniform...they would be closer to a conduct violation than anything...

and cussing is not the same category as taunting unless it's actually taunting...but keep trying there...

[Hollywood Bags]

Hair is part of the uniform when it covers the name on the back but keep trying junior.

Cussing is a non issue but if you are stupid and stubborn and want to categorize it , it would not fall in the uniform categoy but in the category of player conduct but you already know that you are just trying to save face.

[Hollywood Bags]

In summation teams can prohibit long hair and facial hair, cussing is a non uniform issue and you have yet to disprove either of these points.

[Sluzilla]

IThe cussing argument is meaningless, it has nothing to do with uniforms or hair and is addressed via fines soagain what the fuck sare you talking about.

show me one fine where a player caught on the field cussing is fined...

The Steelers can invoke anything they want on appearance but again you say that is not true WITHOUT giving evidence.

actually you're wrong here...

The team controls everything that happens between the lines and off the field, they have huge leeway.

that's never been an argument...

I think it is obvious fvrom this thread who is pro and anti union. I side with management and you and Big Fella are true blue union and everything you see is through that prism.

LMFAO...seriously...i'm laughing AT you...back to your old ways...losing an argument so you try and change what's being argued...old and played out...that's your schtick...

btw...not too many people more anti-union than me...

so...

wrong again...ouch...

[Sluzilla]

Hair is part of the uniform when it covers the name on the back but keep trying junior.

hair is not...covering the name tag can be...hair can be made to not cover the tag...so no...hair is not part of the uniform...

Cussing is a non issue but if you are stupid and stubborn and want to categorize it , it would not fall in the uniform categoy but in the category of player conduct but you already know that you are just trying to save face.

cussing was never said to be part of the uniform...it's been argued that the NFL could ban that if needed for image purposes...you know kinda like you were saying...

Troy's hai is not in accordance with the NFL image and will be banned IMO, we shall see.

if one is a starwman argument...then...well...you know...

[Big Fella]

Pro Union...this is getting comical.

[Sluzilla]

In summation teams can prohibit long hair and facial hair, cussing is a non uniform issue and you have yet to disprove either of these points.

trying to change the argument again when losing i see...

[Sluzilla]

show me one fine where a player caught on the field cussing is fined...

i should clarify...when a coach or player is caught during the game cussing...but not at an opposing player or ref...

jeez...it's sad when i know where you are probably going to go with this...i feel dirty...

[Hollywood Bags]

Lets parse like Bill Clinton , hair is part of the dress code and the unioform falls in this category. We are talking appearances and you keep goinbg to your straw man argument of cussing which is not a dress code issue.

Please show where I am losing, teams have the ability to enforce whatever rules they want on a players appearance and you can't find any evidence to disprove the point but keep playing boy, its fun watching you try and catch your tail.

[scrapdog]

If he's forced to cut that mane, his weight will drop from 207 to 202.

[Sluzilla]

Lets parse like Bill Clinton , hair is part of the dress code and the unioform falls in this category. We are talking appearances and you keep goinbg to your straw man argument of cussing which is not a dress code issue.

Please show where I am losing, teams have the ability to enforce whatever rules they want on a players appearance and you can't find any evidence to disprove the point but keep playing boy, its fun watching you try and catch your tail.

Troy's hai is not in accordance with the NFL image and will be banned IMO, we shall see.

i believe you went to the NFL image over the dress code with hair...

i believe cussing follows suit with the NFL image...

keep saying cussing's a strawman...by doing so you keep making your own argument a strawman...

keep going to teams...when i've never disputed a teams power...although you switched from the league to team to try and prove a point about the league...

hair and tattoos are not part of the dress code...you were more accurate with your image quote...

[jpele]

ARTICLE VII



PLAYER SECURITY

Section 1. No Discrimination: There will be no discrimination in any form against any player by the Management Council, any Club or by the NFLPA because of race, religion, national origin or activity or lack of activity on behalf of the NFLPA.

Section 2. Personal Appearance: Clubs may make and enforce reasonable rules governing players’ appearance on the field and in public places while representing the Clubs; provided, however, that no player will be disciplined because of hair length or facial hair.

[Sluzilla]

ARTICLE VII



PLAYER SECURITY

Section 1. No Discrimination: There will be no discrimination in any form against any player by the Management Council, any Club or by the NFLPA because of race, religion, national origin or activity or lack of activity on behalf of the NFLPA.

Section 2. Personal Appearance: Clubs may make and enforce reasonable rules governing players’ appearance on the field and in public places while representing the Clubs; provided, however, that no player will be disciplined because of hair length or facial hair.

they spelled uniform wrong...

[Hollywood Bags]

So the clubs can govern players appearance on and off the field. They can make any requests they deem reasonable just can't discipline a player for their hair length. Seems like making them put it up is a reasonable request and making them cut it is not a disciplinary action.

[Penguins Fan]

Troy should-

Volunteer for St. Baldrick's Day
Collect contributions for charity
Have his head shaved bald, and
Keep it that way.


Hair is overrated. Bald is cool. Mel Blount never needed hair. Neither does Troy.

[Steelersrule]

Troy should-

Volunteer for St. Baldrick's Day
Collect contributions for charity
Have his head shaved bald, and
Keep it that way.


Hair is overrated. Bald is cool. Mel Blount never needed hair. Neither does Troy.

To Troy, hair length is a sign of strength. This goes back to his culture in Hawaii. It has been used against him on the field, yet he has chosen to wear it like he does. I think this agruement on hair length is bogus.

Of course I am bald, and can't grow it long, but I think if he has the ability to grow it, let him.

[Guttpuppy]

Dave should make Bags cut that avatar, he doesn't deserve it...

[Hollywood Bags]

Oh no, not the avatear, God you're a douche.

[Guttpuppy]

Dave should make Bags cut that avatar, he doesn't deserve it...

[bradentonfan]

Dave should make Bags cut that avatar, he doesn't deserve it...

has anyone else caught the irony of the personna arguing for the establishment, all the while using the nick name of a man who wore gold shoes as a symbolic middle finger to this very type of forced conformity?
LC fought for his right to be his own man, was a great player and teammate while keeping his own personal identity.
LC did it just for his own outspoken 1970's individualism..... Troy's hair represents an entire culture.... who kept their own traditions alive even through years of foriegn conquerors and constant pressure from outsider religious "missionaries".... its one of the only traditions their people have kept alive even through the process of "americanization" of their our soveirgn nation.... how dare the NFL ask him to cut his hair.... modern western civilizations have already taken enough from the indigenous peoples of their new claimed territories.

[Hollywood Bags]

WOW L.C. was a renegade because he wore gold shoes the NFL SANCTIONED. L.C. was and always will be part of the establishment, gold shoes were never targeted by the NFL as Troy and others hair is but thanks for the futile anaolgy.

[t-bone]

LC wore gold cleats so the announcers would know HE got the sack/tackle.


his story, not mine, as seen on America's Game.

[Hollywood Bags]

And the shoes were OK with the NFL.

gutpuppy is too stupid to realize I am not arguing for Troy to get a haircut, just wear it inside the helmet if the NFL says to do so.

[t-bone]

just keepin' it real, yo.


please, proceed.....

[Guttpuppy]

I already said he'd just tuck it, dumbass.

I've moved on, I said you don't deserve to wear that avatar. That's my new thing.

[Hollywood Bags]

You don't deserve to post here shithead, you add nothing.

[Guttpuppy]

You don't deserve to post here shithead, you add nothing.

And you do? I've been here for years, seen your kind and don't really give a fuck. Bring it!

[Guttpuppy]

Greg Lloyd didn't care what players looked like, lose the av.

[Hollywood Bags]

Bring it, figures a bitch like you would use a female line.

Might want to do some research on Lloyd, not a great mnan and stuck a gun in his son's mouth, hopefully you will now STFU

[Guttpuppy]

You don't deserve to post here shithead, you add nothing.

Actually, I've done a few sigs here and there for some Nation peeps amongst other things...

Not that I needed to but I earned my keep... you?

[Hollywood Bags]

Wow, sig lines and a femal line, you are a bitch

[bradentonfan]

You don't deserve to post here shithead, you add nothing.

what do you add other than personal insults, shit stirring, and a nazi's view of personal rights?
btw, who were you before, and where did you come from to have this lofty sense of self worth?
some of the people you think shouldn't post here have been around since we defected from the "official" site's board.
what makes you so special and self appointed know it all.... such a stickler for rules, why don't you go back to prison where you have no choice but to conform.

[Hollywood Bags]

Notice you now fail to defend Lloyd, eh bitch

[Hollywood Bags]

Wow bradenton, Nazi view because Troy looks like an ass on the field. WTF are you equating anyone to a Nazi, shows your total lack of world history and insight. I hope you have no close Jewish friends, you just trivialized their losses.

[Guttpuppy]

Bring it, figures a bitch like you would use a female line.

Might want to do some research on Lloyd, not a great mnan and stuck a gun in his son's mouth, hopefully you will now STFU

WOW! Didn't know that, never heard that, I was never a fan of his so you know, damn, I 'm glad you filled me in there, man, that's crazy, did he reaally do that, hah. Tough love!

[Hollywood Bags]

Back to prison, why , I don't want to visit your relatives

[LineDown!]

you two should fuck and get it over with. i can definitely feel the sexual tension...

[Guttpuppy]

Wow, sig lines and a femal line, you are a bitch

No sig graphics, not lines...

Dave, he just called you a bitch. Change his av to Gerela or something 'cause he the real bitch.

[Hollywood Bags]

Sticking a gun in your son's mouth is tough love and yet you love him for not caring what players looked like on the field, you are a bitch

[Hollywood Bags]

Gerela won Super Bowls, you are his bitch

How many did LLOyd win again ?

[Guttpuppy]

Gerela won Super Bowls, you are his bitch

How many did LLOyd win again ?

You pillowbite for Vinatieri.

[Hollywood Bags]

I called you a BITCH why are you whining like a bitch and saying I called Dave one ?

[Hollywood Bags]

Man you are the master of the comeback, now trying to bring in another kicker, faggott

[Guttpuppy]

you two should fuck and get it over with. i can definitely feel the sexual tension...


I know you ain't talkin' to me...

You talkin' to me? Big whoop, wanna fight about it?

[Guttpuppy]

No, you did.

[Guttpuppy]

Man you are the master of the comeback, now trying to bring in another kicker, faggott

Hahahahaha... wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[t-bone]

great.....

"The Not Ready for Religion and Politics Players"

Tuesday....offseason.....screw it.

[Guttpuppy]

I called you a BITCH why are you whining like a bitch and saying I called Dave one ?

You called graphics guys fags and Dave is going pro so I figured it may help in getting your avatar removed. I saw an opportunity and I took it, sue me.

[Hollywood Bags]

I said you were a bitch for sig lines NEVER mentioned graphic guys you illiterate bitch

[SteelrzGirl]

you two should fuck and get it over with. i can definitely feel the sexual tension...

uh where the hll have you been?

[Guttpuppy]

I said you were a bitch for sig lines NEVER mentioned graphic guys you illiterate bitch

And sig lines and graphics are different, how? You think I made up words for peeps sigs?

I don't understand, me no type no more.

[Hollywood Bags]

Thank God, the intelligence level of the board just went up

[Guttpuppy]

Hah, I lied.

[Guttpuppy]

Thank God, the intelligence level of the board just went up

Good, you're leaving. Damn, I'm gonna miss you.

[Hollywood Bags]

A liar , a fool and a bitch, congratulations

[Guttpuppy]

A liar , a fool and a bitch, congratulations

Imma take a page outta your MO...

Your Momma!

Ow, that's gotta sting like most internet putdowns do...

[Hollywood Bags]

Your IQ is definitely a prime number under 100

[Big Fella]

WOW L.C. was a renegade because he wore gold shoes the NFL SANCTIONED. L.C. was and always will be part of the establishment, gold shoes were never targeted by the NFL as Troy and others hair is but thanks for the futile anaolgy.

Now what the fuck are you talking about?

The Chiefs mentioned it, and it will be discussed.

To say "targeted by the NFL" when it is actually a shitty team in Missouri is a bit pretentious.

[Hollywood Bags]

The NFL is going to discuss it per ESPN< regardless of what team brought it up, now you were saying.

[Guttpuppy]

Your IQ is definitely a prime number under 100

Me don't know math, what's a prime number?

[Big Fella]

The NFL is going to discuss it per ESPN< regardless of what team brought it up, now you were saying.

Discussing and targeting are equal?

So talking about murder and pointing a gun...

Interesting logic, again.

[Guttpuppy]

Where ya at Bags bitch?

[Guttpuppy]

Pussy little fucker, goddamn I'm pissed...

I know, I know, I'd throttle him,,, still fun though!

C'mon little bitch .

[Hollywood Bags]

Yeah , they are going to discuss the target, the long hair out of the helmet. If there is no target there is no discussion unless you want the Rules Committee to contemplate the meaning of life.

[Big Fella]

That is a pretty broad use of the term "target."

[Guttpuppy]

Target Bags, no av for him.

[Aries1247]

Lets parse like Bill Clinton

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