Vikes Obtain Allen for 3 2008 Draft Picks. Steelers Draft Strategy Takes a Hit?

[Super Dave]

Chiefs trade Allen to Vikings


Ever since negotiations for a long-term contract broke off last year, Jared Allen’s departure from the Chiefs carried a sense of inevitability.

It happened Tuesday night when the Chiefs agreed to trade their Pro Bowl defensive end to the Minnesota Vikings, a source said.

Allen went to Minnesota on Tuesday night to sign one of the largest contracts ever for a defensive player — six years for just less than $74 million with more than $31 million guaranteed.

The Chiefs are expected to receive Minnesota’s first-round pick (No. 17) and both the Vikings’ third-round picks (73rd and 82nd). It would give the Chiefs six picks in the first 82 players in this weekend’s draft and 13 total picks. The Chiefs also have one choice in the fourth and two each in the fifth, sixth and seventh rounds.

The teams also discussed swapping picks in either the fifth, sixth or seventh rounds.

The Chiefs would not confirm the trade, and president/general manager Carl Peterson and coach Herm Edwards were unavailable.

Having six picks in the first three rounds almost certainly will change the Chiefs’ draft strategy. With only one first-round pick, the Chiefs were almost locked into drafting an offensive lineman to fill one of their voids in the starting lineup.

They now have the flexibility to do many things. They could opt to draft Allen’s replacement, possibly Virginia’s Chris Long or Ohio State’s Vernon Gholston, with the fifth pick. Then they could then get an offensive lineman by bundling picks to move up from the 17th spot or they could select one using the 17th pick.

The Chiefs, who purged their roster of many veterans since the end of their 4-12 season, also need several other offensive linemen, receivers and cornerbacks and could use help at several other positions. Addressing all of those needs now won’t be a problem.

Whatever they do, replacing Allen won’t be easy. An unheralded fourth-round draft pick from tiny Idaho State when he joined the Chiefs in 2004, Allen quickly established himself as one of their best defensive players.

He emerged last year as one of the league’s dominant players. He led the NFL in sacks with 15 ½ despite missing the season’s first two games after being suspended for violating the league’s substance-abuse policy.

Allen had been arrested twice in Johnson County for DUI.

“I think Jared Allen is probably the Chiefs’ best player,” former Chiefs quarterback Ron Jaworski, now a television analyst for ESPN and ABC said before the trade had been completed. “I’m surprised they’re willing to give him up.

“In 14 games last season, he had 15 1/2 sacks. That’s incredible production. You can see why the Vikings have this keen interest in Jared Allen. If you look at the Vikings’ defense, obviously terrific against the run a year ago and suspect against the pass.

“The best pass coverage is a pass rush. That was evidenced in the Super Bowl by the New York Giants and how what I would consider an average secondary did a terrific job because of their pass rush pressure. If you look at the Minnesota Vikings, if they could acquire Jared Allen it would be a huge boost to their defense.”

Allen quickly became a fan favorite at Arrowhead Stadium. He achieved many of his sacks more with all-out effort than incredible athletic ability, and that style seemed to suit the Chiefs and their fans.

His popularity once seemed to dip after the arrests, but last season he was more popular than ever. Not only did Allen lead the league in sacks, but the Chiefs late in the season took to using Allen as an extra tight end in goal-line situations.

He caught touchdown passes in games against San Diego and Detroit to the delight of Chiefs’ faithful.

His relationship with the Chiefs was harmed last year and, as it turned out, irreparably so. Allen believed the Chiefs reneged on promises to sign him to a long-term contract and asked for a trade when such an offer never materialized.

He played last season for $2.35 million on a one-year contract. The sides never came close to reaching agreement on a long-term deal this year and the Chiefs designated him their franchise player.

That required a one-year contract offer of about $8.9 million but didn’t keep Allen off the market.

Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Jacksonville recently inquired about a trade for Allen. The Jaguars dropped out of the discussions, but Allen met with the Vikings in Minnesota over the weekend, and the trade and contract details with Minnesota were completed before Allen visited with Tampa Bay.

[Super Dave]

As TMC mentioned earlier, the Chiefs at #17 means they can scoop up any remaining OT that may be sliding down the draft, or pick Cherilus.

Sux to be 23

[TMC]

I just wrote that I thought we may see some tackles slide because of the depth (and teams that needed them were high). This hurts. Maybe the Vikings package up and get ahead of some of the other teams (like Detroit and Carolina) and nab the player they covet.

With that said, I keep seeing where Clady has came off as uninterested and lacking passion and teams are moving him down draft boards.

Maybe he slides.....I think he will, but how far.

[Buster]

Do you think that there is any chance at all that KC goes after a QB with one of their first round picks, which could help us trade down with Atlanta?

[LetMePlay]

We will draft Limas Sweed.

[bearcatsno69]

kansas city has a lot of needs, thier sliding into the 17th pick does suck for us. Two of there biggest needs are OL and DL just like us. I see them grabbing a guy we may have expected being there before this trade. I don't think the go QB with a first round pick. The QB crop is average this year, and outside of Ryan and possibly Brohm, I see them grabbing a QB in 2 or 3, if they think that Croyle is not their future.

[BillvinCowbert]

I just wrote that I thought we may see some tackles slide because of the depth (and teams that needed them were high). This hurts. Maybe the Vikings package up and get ahead of some of the other teams (like Detroit and Carolina) and nab the player they covet.

With that said, I keep seeing where Clady has came off as uninterested and lacking passion and teams are moving him down draft boards.

Maybe he slides.....I think he will, but how far.

Man, I think this is an outstanding deal for the Chiefs... especially given the pricetag on Allen. They may end up with Long or Gholston, still get their tackle at #17 (Clady/Otah/Williams) then have those couple of 3rd rounders to add some nice depth.

Maybe not in 2008, but I think this deal will pay huge dividends to the Chiefs within the next few years.

I don't know that this changes anything all that much. Most early mocks had KC taking an OT (though as you said, Clady may be slipping); I'd expect them to either take Ryan/OT or DE/OT with their two first rounders.

[TMC]

Do you think that there is any chance at all that KC goes after a QB with one of their first round picks, which could help us trade down with Atlanta?

The thing is, teams are viewing Dorsey as a can't miss prospect and the team that is now realizing this is the Rams. So, either they take Dorsey OR they trade out, allowing someone else to get him. The Falcons then sit at #3 with a choice between a QB (need) and a DE/RB (not so great a need).

I think if Dorsey goes #2, Ryan is a Falcon.

[BillvinCowbert]

The thing is, teams are viewing Dorsey as a can't miss prospect and the team that is now realizing this is the Rams. So, either they take Dorsey OR they trade out, allowing someone else to get him. The Falcons then sit at #3 with a choice between a QB (need) and a DE/RB (not so great a need).

I think if Dorsey goes #2, Ryan is a Falcon.

If I were the Rams, I'd be on the horn with KC (Ryan) trying to deal back to #4 and getting those two 3rd rounders (I don't care what the value chart says). Then take whoever falls out of Dorsey/Long; get a stud, pay him quite a bit less, and pick up two great depth picks.

[Coryea]

The Chiefs also need DB help big time, maybe they'll look at a CB or Phillips at #17.

[Spike]

Man, I think this is an outstanding deal for the Chiefs.

It's a huge blunder is what it is - the Chiefs are even stupider than Cincy. They gave away one of the top premier D linemen in the league, a Pro Bowler, no less- for garbage picks.

The Vikes just got the gift of the century.

[Buster]

It's a huge blunder is what it is - the Chiefs are even stupider than Cincy. They gave away one of the top premier D linemen in the league, a Pro Bowler, no less- for garbage picks.

The Vikes just got the gift of the century.


Dude...put the crack pipe down.

[Spike]

You kids who think KC will pick up a 'Jared Allen' with that #17 pick probably dream you are expert Madden GM's too.

[Jer]

Even more reason for the Steelers to trade down with either Atlanta or Philly who are LOADED with draft Picks. I really see Philly trading up though. With 12 draft picks, they can certainly afford to.

[BillvinCowbert]

It's a huge blunder is what it is - the Chiefs are even stupider than Cincy. They gave away one of the top premier D linemen in the league, a Pro Bowler, no less- for garbage picks.

The Vikes just got the gift of the century.

Well, I hope the Vikes were only one DE away from being a Super Bowl team, because they just pretty much traded their way out of this draft. Did KC throw in Herschel Walker?

If I'm a rebuilding team like KC, and I can either pay Jared Allen $12.5 million a year OR pick up a mid-first and two 3rds, that's as easy as it gets.

Will they get an Allen-like player at #17? Maybe not. Will they get one at #5? Very possible. Then they can get their OT at 17, and get two depth guys in R3. Or maybe they package those two picks to move back into R2.

[FistfullofRings]

You kids who think KC will pick up a 'Jared Allen' with that #17 pick probably dream you are expert Madden GM's too.

Spike = Daniel Snyder

Where was Allen drafted? In addition to #17, the Chiefs have two more chances to draft a Jared Allen.

[Slaine]

It's all about economics. The Chiefs weren't going to pay out $30M in guarantees and another $20M in the same season with the 5th overall pick.

It also makes sense in football terms. They have a franchise back and they haven't been able to block for him. They have a potential QB but won't know if they can't keep him upright. And the previous admin didn't pay enough attention to how old the roster was getting.

They've simply bitten the bullet and have sent their biggest bargaining chip who is one DUI away from a ban and by the way wanted $30M in guarantees the other way to do it.

if you look at the choices in any of these mock the mocks you'll see hard choices all over the place. I wish we had two seconds and two thirds rather than a first, second and third. Some damn fine players will come out of this draft.

[Spike]

In addition to #17, the Chiefs have two more chances to draft a Jared Allen.

They could all be busts.
Draft picks are overrated especially when you have a proven player being dealt.

[Coryea]

They could all be busts.
Draft picks are overrated especially when you have a proven player being dealt.

I agree with that, but you have to look at the money he was given. The Chiefs are rebuilding also, and need all the picks they can get.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

If the Rams do indeed select Dorsey, there will still be some good value selections other than Ryan. I'm not saying they won't select him, but with C.Long and Gholston still on the board, they may just decide they can get their QB later. I wonder if the Raiders will go with Long instead of McFadden if Long is there at 1.4?

[deljzc]

I think the trade sounds about right. Allen was worth more than a 1st round pick alone. Even at his price tag there was no DE in this draft that will have his kind of impact to Minnesota's Tampa-2 defense. Not even close.

And throwing in two extra 3rd rounders isn't that big a deal. Sure it makes Kansas City's draft board look good, but this time of year fans are WAY overvalueing draft picks. We bombard ourselves with all these positives about the prospects. All their potential. But the reality says only about half of the 3rd rounders taken are still in the league for a second contract.

Minnesota now gets a proven commodity. Sure, he's overpaid, but (and I've said this before)... every team overpays players. You just have to balance it out with cheap rookies and weigh the risks. When you're Minnesota and you're paying you're starting QB $500,000, you can overspend a little to get the DE you need.

I still don't understand the logic every player needs to be paid exactly what he's worth. That's the most unrealistic ideal ever.

[BermudaSteel]

Ok...I'm depressed now...

[Spike]

I agree with that, but you have to look at the money he was given.

No I don't. It's not my money, I don't care how much anyone gets paid.

You pay to watch these players play - all the rest is irrelevent.

[BillvinCowbert]

No I don't. It's not my money, I don't care how much anyone gets paid.

You pay to watch these players play - all the rest is irrelevent.

Huh? The money is a big factor in this trade, and since there's a salary cap, you HAVE to consider it. Otherwise, you're not looking at all aspects of the deal. The fact that it's not your money is irrelevant, it's money the Chiefs would have tied up in one player that's one strike away from sitting down.

This is a great deal for the rebuilding Chiefs...

[Idioteque]

We will draft Limas Sweed.

In the fifth or so? Sounds good.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Huh? The money is a big factor in this trade, and since there's a salary cap, you HAVE to consider it. Otherwise, you're not looking at all aspects of the deal. The fact that it's not your money is irrelevant, it's money the Chiefs would have tied up in one player that's one strike away from sitting down.

This is a great deal for the rebuilding Chiefs...

I agree. There was no way in hell the Chiefs would be a good enough team to be in the playoffs, much less make a run at the Superbowl.

That said, I think this changes little with concern to what the Steelers do on draft day. Sure the Chiefs are targeting similar positions as us. But I really do think they are considering trading down in the 1st, and now that seems much more likely. My only concern would be if Atlanta takes Ryan at 1.3, it eliminates one potential suitor for 1.23. But who knows, they still might want to trade up from the 2nd, as they have an excess of draft picks to play with.

[Spike]

"This is a great deal for the rebuilding Chiefs..."

Yeah and now their defense sucks even more from another huge hole they have to fill - brilliant

[BillvinCowbert]

"This is a great deal for the rebuilding Chiefs..."

Yeah and now their defense sucks even more from another huge hole they have to fill - brilliant

And they have a few chances to fill that hole.

You must love that Max Starks deal, since we kept another OT to help the line - hey, it's not your $7 million, so it's not relevant.

[Spike]

That's right - I couldn't care less what he gets paid - I would have kept Faneca first though.

[FistfullofRings]

No I don't. It's not my money, I don't care how much anyone gets paid.

You pay to watch these players play - all the rest is irrelevent.

Welcome to the year 2008. Enrollment for NFL SALARY CAP 101 is now open...

[Spike]

I don't pretend to be a GM

Put them on the field and I'll watch them play

[FistfullofRings]

That's right - I couldn't care less what he gets paid - I would have kept Faneca first though.

Become a Washington Redskins fan - seriously. You will be happier than a pig in shit... at least February through August anyway...

[Spike]

Yeah and the Penguins could have traded away Sid and Malkin for a few extra picks and you dumbasses would think you got a great deal too.

Go back to playing Madden and pretending you have a clue.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

I don't pretend to be a GM

Put them on the field and I'll watch them play

"If you build it, they will come......."

[Spike]

*All of spike's posts are for entertainment purposes only

[Spike]

Ithis time of year fans are WAY overvalueing draft picks. We bombard ourselves with all these positives about the prospects. All their potential. But the reality says only about half of the 3rd rounders taken are still in the league for a second contract..

Most sensible thing I've read around here in a month - coin

[FistfullofRings]

The NFL Draft in anything but over-rated.

Now, the 1st round of the NFL Draft... there's probably nothing more over-rated in the world of sports than the 1st round of the NFL Draft.

[BillvinCowbert]

Yeah and the Penguins could have traded away Sid and Malkin for a few extra picks and you dumbasses would think you got a great deal too.

Go back to playing Madden and pretending you have a clue.

LOL, Jared Allen is a top 3 player in the entire NFL?

[deljzc]

Spike, I also think it was a good trade for the Cheifs. If they weren't interested in paying Allen ever, getting three picks for him when he would have been gone after the 2008 season (a season the Chiefs have little chance of making the playoffs) is the right thing to do.

If the Steelers, heaven forbid, ever become really bad, I'd have doubts about paying one guy that much money too and would be interested in getting more lottery tickets (which is what draft picks are) for the future.

Of course, as much as I dislike Colbert, he's no where near as bad as Herm Edwards. That guys is a franchise killer.

[Spike]

as much as I dislike Colbert, he's no where near as bad as Herm Edwards. That guys is a franchise killer.

Herm ran the Jets into the ground and then took his blunder parade on the road to KC.
He's a franchise killer alright.

[Spike]

LOL, Jared Allen is a top 3 player in the entire NFL?

With the Vikings 2008 first round pick --- they select one of the best DE's in the league still in his prime.

You really are clueless.

[Coryea]

I don't know, Herm took the Jets to the playoffs 3 of the 5 seasons he was there, after they didn't make the playoffs for 4 seasons. And took KC to the playoffs his first season, then his entire Oline along with LJ were injured last year.

[Spike]

Is there anyone's dick you don't suck?

[Coryea]

Is there anyone's dick you don't suck?

He's taken two franchises to the playoffs his first year there.
He took over the Jets in 2002 and made the playoffs, they haven't been there since 1998.
He took over KC in 2006 and made the playoffs, they haven't been there since 2003, and they lost their starting QB in game one.

That's not dick sucking, those are facts. I wouldn't want him as the Steelers Head Coach, but I wouldn't call him a franchise killer.

[FistfullofRings]

With the Vikings 2008 first round pick --- they select one of the best DE's in the league still in his prime.

"Prime" can last 10 seasons or it can last 2 seasons. It wasn't all that long ago Shaun Alexander was in his prime and scoring 20+ TDs a season...

[K from Cal]

I just wrote that I thought we may see some tackles slide because of the depth (and teams that needed them were high).


Which is why we will trade down. The way I see it, at 23 much of the talent will be around the same level, except for QB's. Moving down 10 or 20 slots won't affect the talent level we'll be getting.

[Spike]

"Prime" can last 10 seasons or it can last 2 seasons. It wasn't all that long ago Shaun Alexander was in his prime and scoring 20+ TDs a season...

RB's are a bad example - their average 'life expectancy' is less than 3 years.
Linemen can play at the top of their game for a decade.

[stevew]

Herm is a franchise killer. Definitely an unintended consequence of the Rooney Rule.

[BillvinCowbert]

With the Vikings 2008 first round pick --- they select one of the best DE's in the league still in his prime.

You really are clueless.

With their 1st, 3rd, and 3rd round picks, the select one of the league's best pass rushing DEs. Then they pay him franchise QB money.

It's good to be clueless.

And yes, Herm sucks. We never would have lost that 04/05 AFCC if Herm actually understood what it meant to "Play to Win"...

[stevew]

I think they overspent on Allen, but I like the move for him. If the cap continues to rise, 12m for a stud DE will be do-able under the cap.

[Spike]

I predict the Vikings win their division.....all the rest is irrelevant.

[FlaStGrad]

I say the Bugles trade up wth the Chiefs to select NT Ellis. They were rebuffed in FA when they were seeking a NT and they have a huge need for one. KC can simply move down a few spots and pick up even more draft picks that they can use to either get yet another 1st round pick or trade up in the secod round.

On Sirius a few days ago, they were suggesting that if KC was in full rebuilding mode and willing to trade Allen, why did they even resign Larry Johnson and not trade him too?

[Jer]

The Vikings Defense is VERY much improved. It was a good move, and one that will take them deep into the playoffs this season.

[Ben#7]

Very smart move by K.C.

I would have traded any of the Steelers starters if we were offered this kind of deal. With the exception of Ben,Troy,Santonio,and maybe Woodley.

With the excepeption of those 3 or 4 players. Who do we have that is so valuable that we would not trade away for a 1st and two 3rd rounders and they also a swappedsixth rounders?

[Super Dave]

The Vikes were going to pick Merling or Balmer at 17, So they filled their need with a young, proven all pro player.

Basically they gave up 2 3rds for a player who would of garnered 2 1st's with franchise tag.

What's available in the 3rd?

Matt Spaeth?
Willie Reid?
Anthony Smith?
Trai Essex?

Those are the most recent Steelers 3rd rd picks.

[t-bone]

KC is bad.....really bad.

I'd trade Gonzo, too, if I could.

what is it with the Vikes GM office?

mold?....fumes?....crackpipes?

[toledosteel7]

The Vikings Defense is VERY much improved. It was a good move, and one that will take them deep into the playoffs this season.

Their defense was good before this move...they just have no offense other than Peterson.

It was damn near impossible to run against the Vikes, now it's going to be damn near impossible to pass too...

[Super Dave]

Starks was a 3rd rd pick too.....of course he makes 7 mil a year now......

[markymarc]

Which is why we will trade down. The way I see it, at 23 much of the talent will be around the same level, except for QB's. Moving down 10 or 20 slots won't affect the talent level we'll be getting.

At this point I really hope we do trade down. Just hoping we can find a trade partner. I would like to see us trade down with Atlanta and pick up their 2 2nd rounders. That way we are getting 3 quality players in the 2nd round. Then we get 4 more picks on Sunday.

[deljzc]

Minnesota sees the door open to become the #1 team in the NFC North. Even with Jackson at QB they are in no worse situation at that position vs. the Packers (Rogers), Bears (Grossman) or Lions (Kitna).

Any players they pick at #17, #73 and #82 are projects. Every draft pick is a project to some extent and don't reap rewards for years in the future. Minnesota was willing to sacrifice the potential in 2010 for an immediate upgrade in 2008.

Again, people are making these picks sound like locks and gold mines. Like they all turn into good players. The last 5 #17 picks overall are: Jarvis Moss, Chad Greenway, David Pollack, DJ Williams and Bryant Johnson.

You're trading a guy who had 15.5 sacks (with pretty much mediocre talent around him) in 14 games to a team with TWO all-pro defensive tackles for players like those listed above? Give me a break, this is a great trade for Minnesota.

And Kansas City is happy too. Win-win trade in my book.

[TMC]

I think it was a MONSTER deal for the Chiefs and could be a good deal for the Vikings....because they cannot draft a DE to save their life. But, if Allen celebrates his selection with a few drinks, it will suck for the Vikings.

[stevew]

How is it that we can't figure out this "franchise and trade" process like a lot of other teams have.

[Spike]

Minnesota sees the door open to become the #1 team in the NFC North. Any players they pick at #17, #73 and #82 are projects. Every draft pick is a project to some extent and don't reap rewards for years in the future. Minnesota was willing to sacrifice the potential in 2010 for an immediate upgrade in 2008.

And Kansas City is happy too. Win-win trade in my book.

Yep. "Win now" is the general idea.....draft picks sitting on the bench are useless.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

How is it that we can't figure out this "franchise and trade" process like a lot of other teams have.

I asked the same question when we didn't franchise Faneca. Oh well.....

[BillvinCowbert]

Yep. "Win now" is the general idea.....draft picks sitting on the bench are useless.

Tarvaris Jackson <> Win Now.

[Spike]

It's just a theory

[Coryea]

One team is rebuilding, they picked up some very good draft picks, the other team is right there trying to take their division, they picked up an all-pro caliber player. Sounds like a win/win to me.

[Max Power]

It's the Minnesota Vikings that are the Big Winners in the trade bonanza. What were they expecting to get with #17? Who knows? It wouldn't have necessarily been on par with Allen, that's for sure. This is HUGE for the Purple Vikes and the NFC North. I'm ok with it too, since I'll be here in Vikings land to deal with thier season, win or lose. This will also cause havoc with Green Bay who will have a complete rookie QB at the helm. Minnesota is Green Bay's arch enemy, followed directly by the Bears.

The Picks Minnesota gave up are at this point complete unknowns. They could easily bust. KC has a track record of misses as well as hits and will gamble Big Time here.

Although the contract Allen picks up is coslty, he should reap benefits immediately in the tight NFC North division. Minnesota has the explosive running back that makes them a dangerous team now. Things just got real interesting in Minnesota, for sure.

[Max Power]

Tarvaris Jackson <> Win Now.

The up-coming season sits squarely on the sholders of one Tarvaris Jackson. Weather or not the Allen gamble is a success depends on how well the QB plays. It's not a streach to think Jackson would play well as the success he was experiencing in 07 was very good in deed. Can he go forward, and make progress? You bet.

[The Iron is Steel On!]

Steelers Draft Strategy Takes a Hit?

I read all the posts...I don't see how this prevents us from drafting Jonathan Stewart.

[deljzc]

Considering this strategy worked for the Chiefs and based on contract value, you have to think we could have franchise tagged Faneca and traded him for a 2nd round pick sometime this spring, right?

I know that would have really pissed Faneca off, but business is business right? I'm not saying I would have done it that way, but was that option a posibility?

[kurtistb]

Considering this strategy worked for the Chiefs and based on contract value, you have to think we could have franchise tagged Faneca and traded him for a 2nd round pick sometime this spring, right?

I know that would have really pissed Faneca off, but business is business right? I'm not saying I would have done it that way, but was that option a posibility?

I suggested the very same thing and got skewered for it. I have no doubt in my mind that the Jets would have given us at least a 2nd and we may have been able to get future considerations or a late rounder thrown in. I'll never knock the Rooney way of doing business but their ways are a bit antiquated and probably need to be refined. Not to mention Saturday would be alot sweeter if we were drafting at 23, 36 and 53.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Considering this strategy worked for the Chiefs and based on contract value, you have to think we could have franchise tagged Faneca and traded him for a 2nd round pick sometime this spring, right?

I know that would have really pissed Faneca off, but business is business right? I'm not saying I would have done it that way, but was that option a posibility?

I suggested the very same thing and got skewered for it. I have no doubt in my mind that the Jets would have given us at least a 2nd and we may have been able to get future considerations or a late rounder thrown in. I'll never knock the Rooney way of doing business but their ways are a bit antiquated and probably need to be refined. Not to mention Saturday would be alot sweeter if we were drafting at 23, 36 and 53.

I agree 100%

[rossi]

As TMC mentioned earlier, the Chiefs at #17 means they can scoop up any remaining OT that may be sliding down the draft, or pick Cherilus.

Sux to be 23

Chiefs just became another team with the power to trade back up into the late first. Those two extra 3's could allow them to walk away from this draft with 3 #1 picks.
Wow with the talent in this years class they could take a huge step in the right direction.
I wouldn't be opposed to a deal that sent us a extra pick or two in round 3.

[Max Power]

Chiefs just became another team with the power to trade back up into the late first. Those two extra 3's could allow them to walk away from this draft with 3 #1 picks.
Wow with the talent in this years class they could take a huge step in the right direction.
I wouldn't be opposed to a deal that sent us a extra pick or two in round 3.

As much as 3 #1's would be nice, would it not put a crimp in the teams ability to sign them all? The rookie pool is only so big and guys in round 1 ARE going to get large bonus money, which will count towards the cap. I can't recall any teams having had three first rounders, not in the modern day era.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

The Jets did

2000 12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
2000 13 John Abraham LB South Carolina
2000 18 Chad Pennington

[stevew]

You can fit 3 #1 rookies into the pool, but most likely you would have to be very creative with your contract structures.

[dobre shunka]

The Chiefs did just free up $9m by trading Allen. I think they'll be fine.

[Max Power]

The Chiefs did just free up $9m by trading Allen. I think they'll be fine.

9 mill but not from the "rookie" pool.

[dobre shunka]

9 mill but not from the "rookie" pool.

What does that have to do with anything. It all comes off the same cap. It's not like each team has the same rookie pool to work with. The rookie pool is just the money the league sets for each team post draft based on their slotting for each pick. KC will likely have the largest rookie pool when it's all said and done. Last year Oak had 11 picks and were allocated $6.9m. At most their's will be $8m. Besides, each player will scratch off a player at the bottom of the 51 roster. The bottom 13 players is roughly $4m. So they'll only need at most $4m in cap space to sign their rookies.

[CLUTCH]

Go defense with the first pick that is where the value is..................