Who DON'T you want?

[RevBillyC]

On Draft Day, which guys, if picked by the Steelers will make your head explode?

Mine are:

Jeff Otah (oaf)
Justin King (puss)

[CoolieMan]

heath miller

[ /steelreeling]

[LetMePlay]

Kentwan Balmer.

[Vader]

Balmer
King
Stewart

[mdk94]

list of people i dont want in the 1st round.... Gosder Cherilus(bust waiting to happen), Kentwam balmer(Just dont think he will be good), Malcolm Kelly(mike williams part 2)

[BermudaSteel]

I think we've touched all the bases...No Otah, no King, no Balmer.

Everyone else could work...


But who am I?

[Drac 58]

Aqib Talib or Limas Sweed

Not because I think either is a bad player. I just think that if tone of these two is there at 23they'll provide some good bait to trade out of the first which I think would provide the best possible draft this year.

I won't bitch if they grab one of these guys I'm just hoping for the trade.

[topseed]

Balmer would make me about as nauseous as Timmons did last year. King would be fine...in the second round.

I was initially put off by the thought of taking Stewart, but the idea is growing on me. If he's still available at 23, there's considerable value there.

[Irv24]

1. Durant Brooks Georgia Tech 6-01/4 204 5.20
2. Mike Dragosavich North Dakota St. 6-51/2 212 4.85
3. Brett Kern Toledo 6-23/4 195 5.00
4. Tim Reyer Kansas St. 5-111/2 205 5.00
5. Owen Tolson Army 6-13/4 210 5.00
6. Ken Debauche Wisconsin 6-2 220 4.95
7. Andrew Larson California 5-113/4 202 4.90
8. Benjamin Dato Fordham 6-3 206 5.10
9. Waylon Prather San Jose St. 6-3 225 4.85
10. Diamond Dave Fair ----- Little Shit

[Thorndike]

Balmer in the first.

[Hines57]

Anything that isnt a mauling OL

[FlaStGrad]

I still see the huge upside of selecting WR Hardy (or Sweed) to open up our offense. Granted, many of us believe that a 1st rounder doesn't have to start immediately to pay dividends and if we go with either, they will come in as the 3rd WR and help this team significantly. Hardy and Holmes on the outside with Ward in the slot is a very potent attack. Then we look to shore up the OL and DL in rounds 2 and 3.

I do not feel comfortable reaching for a OL just because it is a huge need. Cherilus is no LT and I am not convinced that Starks can play LT long term. Then, if Colon can't make the switch to G, we have a log jam at RT. Give me a guy with potential in round 2 or 3 who can learn to play LT and go for another position in the 1st if no one falls.

[BermudaSteel]

I still see the huge upside of selecting WR Hardy (or Sweed) to open up our offense. Granted, many of us believe that a 1st rounder doesn't have to start immediately to pay dividends and if we go with either, they will come in as the 3rd WR and help this team significantly. Hardy and Holmes on the outside with Ward in the slot is a very potent attack. Then we look to shore up the OL and DL in rounds 2 and 3.

I do not feel comfortable reaching for a OL just because it is a huge need. Cherilus is no LT and I am not convinced that Starks can play LT long term. Then, if Colon can't make the switch to G, we have a log jam at RT. Give me a guy with potential in round 2 or 3 who can learn to play LT and go for another position in the 1st if no one falls.

Take a bow, sir...Karma to you!

[deljzc]

Tough question because I'm so down on the Steelers front office this off-season, I am already preparing myself for the worst.

However, to answer the question, I'm going to say Philip Merling. I just have a feeling he's a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none and I don't see a fit in our scheme at all. Either he will sit on the bench while he get's stronger, or he's never going to get stronger and be invisible on the field.

Granted, there are a LOT of prospects that worry me: Otah, Balmer, Talib, Sweed, Hardy, Kelly, Phillips, etc. but for each of those there seems to be a fit with the Steelers if they play to their potential.

Merling reminds me of Timmons. A consensus mid-level 1st rounder but putting him on the Steelers doesn't help much at all and screams of the "tweener" 3-4/4-3 players we seem to be interested in now. I'm really against these types of players.

[tibor]

I would be extremely disappointed if we waste our first round draft pick on TE Tyler McNitt out of Nebraska-Kearney.

[Sluzilla]

i don't want Merling / Talib / Phillips / Balmer in the first...
i don't want Bryant / King in the second...

[ExUSAF]

Justin King, hands down. This guy would be the biggest waste of skin since Troy Edwards. I pity the fool that drafts him any higher than 4th Round.

[smithessmokin]

balmer
cherilus
merling
talib
king
sweed

[Wig]

I think we can all agree that the Steelers should NOT draft me.

Sure, I wish they would and all... but really it couldn't be considered to be in the best interests of the team.

If I am taken with the 23rd pick though... I promise I won't fake any injuries. I'll go balls-out right up until Woodley, Polomalu, Smith or whomever crushes my faint NFL dreams with a legal but vicious hand-off of the water bottle in the first team-meeting.

[BLITZ 43]

In no order......


Urrutia WR Louisville- Good size and ability but is slow and has a temper. Don't want him as a draft pick but would give him a shot as a FA.

Hart RB Mich- Tons of talent but just can't stay healthy in college what will he be like in the pros, with so much depth at this position I want to pass here. Plus as a high school senior his scholl kicked my son's school's ass in the state semi's on their way to a state title...#@$#%^&#@%!!!!!!!!! lol

Richardson OT Clemson- This is my number one don't want he is bad. looked super slow against lesser talent at senior bowl. If we draft this guy we better be drafting a QB of the future cause Ben will die with this guy.


Albert OG Virgina- Sky rocketed so fast after his work out withou pads, I will eat my words if I am wrong but just don't have a good feeling about this guy, especially in the 1st round.

Lichtensteiger C Bowling Green- Very slow and week if it weren't for Richardson this guy would have been the worst oline at the senior bowl.

Justice C Wake Forest- Same as above but not quite as bad.

No TE's, K's or P's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now lets start a thread of who we would love to have.......

[Andymisiu]

heath miller

[ /steelreeling]

And what was wrong with that pick?

[kev4heels]

Don't want Balmer...and I'm a huge UNC fan.
Dude just looks plain lazy.

[GoSteelers]

polamalu------what a waste......coach.

[bearcatsno69]

No TE, QB, K, P, or long snapper, and I will live with there decision. Unless they fuck it up.

[BLEEDS]

ANYTHING other than an OL, DL or TRADE DOWN.

If we take a WR in the first, I might be glad I am out of town for a wedding, because I was just getting used to my new Sony Bravia 60".

PEACE

-BLEEDS

[Steelerfan81]

No Balmer, or Justin King.. if we reach for King in the first I'm going to be livid.

[Andymisiu]

polamalu------what a waste......coach.

Ok.... Your joking right?

[Sluzilla]

Ok.... Your joking right?

that's two inside jokes you've missed in this thread...heh...

[Andymisiu]

that's two inside jokes you've missed in this thread...heh...

I guess I'm on the outside than :)

but I was scared for a moment.

[Secret Santa]

I would be extremely disappointed if we waste our first round draft pick on TE Tyler McNitt out of Nebraska-Kearney.

Tibor is a hater, plain and simple. McNitt and Miller could be bookends for YEARS.

[SteelerFan448]

Balmer, King, or any first round CB. However, I don't get the same feeling about not wanting any of these guys like I had for Timmons last year.

[Slaine]

Cherilus - not because he won't be good but because that would give us three RT - WTF?
Balmer - because he's a one year wonder
King - too much negative stuff around for him to be the real deal.

[SteelerFan448]

Cherilus - not because he won't be good but because that would give us three RT - WTF?

Another way to look at that is he will give us ONE good RT.

[Stryker]

Zo Jackson offering me a Handjob for crack money

[south dakota STEEL]

A QB that makes quick reads...

or a helluva DT...

sorry mis-read the post. those are who I want...

not want:

another OG...or another TE

[Steel Conviction]

What scares me is the "Troy Edwards" pick. Reaching for need rarely works. If the BPA is for better than the need, you have to go BPA (assuming it isn't QB, tight end, etc).

Also, I believe our DL needs just as much help as our OL. When Smith went down, our DL crashed and burned.

[Spike]

Who DON'T you want?

Another Timmons project.


We need starters.

[JEFFRO]

No TE's, QB's, P's or K's.

No reaches either. I would rather trade out of a pick than reach for a player.

[slashsteel]

I want value, no reaches early please!

[Punxsutawney]

Cherilus or Otah.

IMO, both generate a strong push in the running game but are very questionable in pass protection. They are Max Starks clones.

[TMC]

Felix Jones
Jamaal Charles
DeSean Jackson
Barry Richardson
John Sullivan
Jason Jones
Kentwan Balmer
Ali Highsmith
Aqib Talib
Justin King
Brandon Flowers
Jamie Silva

Not that I hate any of them (well, maybe Balmer), but I do not think they will turn out as well as some others think.

[Jer]

Anthony Morelli. I don't even want him as a waterboy.

[crimsonsteel]

Balmer, King, or a RB with our first pick. Not that I think Stewart would be a bust, I just think I'd rather have someone who could make as much of an impact at a position of need.... like Groves at LB or a top flight WR.

[DerbyCityBNGfan]

Balmer, Kelly, Otah, Jones, King...

[Tres Rios]

Any RB (at least for the first 4 rounds)
Any OT in round one not named WIlliams
Malcolm Kelly
Balmer
Any TE, K or P
Any QB other than Dennis Dixon

[Southern Steeler]

Any RB (at least for the first 4 rounds)
Any OT in round one not named WIlliams
Malcolm Kelly
Balmer
Any TE, K or P
Any QB other than Dennis Dixon

this list gets my vote.

and I'm still going to punch someone in the face if we draft Stewart in round 1.

[tapeANaspirin2it]

lawrence timmons

[topseed]

Cherilus or Otah.

IMO, both generate a strong push in the running game but are very questionable in pass protection. They are Max Starks clones.

If the Steelers draft one of them at #23, I bet Cherilus or Otah would love to clone Max's contract, too.

[Idioteque]

James. Hardy.

Maybe in the 4th.

[FAB802]

Kobe, he's too damn selfish.

[Tres Rios]

James. Hardy.

Maybe in the 4th.


You just have a hard on for that slow white boy from out your way. Don't hate the real player. Hate the game.

[RevBillyC]

You just have a hard on for that slow white boy from out your way. Don't hate the real player. Hate the game.


Count me as a fan of that boy too - in five years, Peter King will be writing about all the WR busts picked in front of him...(like he's currently writing about the WR busts picked in front of Hines Ward)

[Turbo Pig]

Kentwan Balmer.

+1 what a bum

[LetMePlay]

Felix Jones
Jamaal Charles
DeSean Jackson
Barry Richardson
John Sullivan
Jason Jones
Kentwan Balmer
Ali Highsmith
Aqib Talib
Justin King
Brandon Flowers
Jamie Silva
.

That is a very good list of who I dont want. The only one I'm not totally on board with is Felix Jones. I think he could be a very good player. I understand he is not be an every down player but he is electrifying.

[RevBillyC]

Felix Jones
Jamaal Charles
DeSean Jackson
Barry Richardson
John Sullivan
Jason Jones
Kentwan Balmer
Ali Highsmith
Aqib Talib
Justin King
Brandon Flowers
Jamie Silva

Not that I hate any of them (well, maybe Balmer), but I do not think they will turn out as well as some others think.


I'd take Flowers if he fell into the 3rd (which isn't likely) - I think he could eventually make an excellent FS in the NFL.

[Idioteque]

You just have a hard on for that slow white boy from out your way. Don't hate the real player. Hate the game.

You mean the slow one who had punt return TDs of 92 and 89 yards this past year?

Naw, i love Nelson, but that's not why I don't like Hardy. Tall + lazy = usually slacks and doesn't pan out. I'll take Houshmandzadeh over Charles Rogers any day of the week.

[Tres Rios]

Height : Hardy 6'6" - Nelson 6'3"
40 time : Hardy 4.45 - Nelson 4.51
Vertical Leap : Hardy 37 inches - Nelson - 31 inches
Bench Press : Hardy 18 reps - Nelson - skipped due to weakeness
Senior year TDs : Hardy 18 - Nelson 11

Not even close. Not saying Nelson is bad or will be bad but he's Ed McCaffery. Possession guy. That's the last thing we need at WR. Nelson scares nobody and won't stretch the field or be as good as Hardy in the red zone.

[Slaine]

He's a possession guy because he's 0.06 of a second slower over the 40?

[Tres Rios]

He can't jump and has no strength. You see that vertical? See the TD difference?

Or maybe we should keep throwing fades to Santonio.

[Slaine]

Makes him less of a red zone threat but it doesn't make him a possession guy.

[Garrett]

i don't want Merling / Talib / Phillips / Balmer in the first...
i don't want Bryant / King in the second...

Why not Red Bryant in the 2nd? Looking for more pass rush potential?

[a1aparrot]

I don't want a tight end. Tight ends are like women, they can turn into wide recveivers.

[Tres Rios]

Makes him less of a red zone threat but it doesn't make him a possession guy.


Hardy had more yards per catch and got 10 pass interference calls on the CB trying desperately to stop him from outjumping them.

Sorry, you're obviously a Nelson fanboy too so I give up.

[Idioteque]

Hardy had more yards per catch and got 10 pass interference calls on the CB trying desperately to stop him from outjumping them.

Sorry, you're obviously a Nelson fanboy too so I give up.

Sorry, but I don't gush over combine results as much as some folks do.

Slow? Like I said, the long punt returns and the fact that he SCHOOLED Aqib Talib repeatedly tells me he's not slow. Can you point out the source of the McCaffrey comparisons?

Bad vertical? Whatever. He found a way to catch about 900 passes last year in a run-first offense with a mediocre QB.

Sometimes, vertical jumps at the combine don't tell the whole story. Nelson has been productive as a deep threat and as a possession guy. Like I said before, give me Housh over Charles Rogers, Antonio Bryant or R.Jay Soward any day. You seem to have "he's tall, so that means he's excellent" syndrome. Workout warrior anyone?

And, hey, lookie at Nelson going early in the 2nd. Seems to high for an Ed McCaffrey clone.