WVU's Rodriguez leaving for Michigan

[Dgenx321]

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07350/842184-100.stm

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3157227


Thank you Rich.

Ohio State will have a grand time beating your ass every year.

[Dgenx321]

You know, the way he went about this makes me dislike this guy. He had it all in WV.

He lost to Pitt, but they didn't call for his job.

Let him lose once to Ohio State and he'll be dreaming he was back in Morgantown.

[Jmat]

He wanted out of West Virginia bad. He held them hostage last year got what he wanted and now he fucked his players anyway.

College coaches are assholes.

[Idioteque]

Oh stop it. The guy made a (very) positive career move. As Colin Sullivan says in the Departed, "The day you wouldn't take a promotion come talk to me."

Besides, I don't see anything wrong with the way he did it. He admitted a couple of days ago he was considering it, then he took it.

[Dgenx321]

He was a bitch with the news yesterday. Almost denying it.

At least wait until you coach your team in their Bowl game.

[Idioteque]

He was a bitch with the news yesterday. Almost denying it.

At least wait until you coach your team in their Bowl game.

What if the job is filled in the next three weeks? Then you're dicked.

[Dgenx321]

They'd wait for him.

[FAB802]

They can have him. I'd box up his shit and change all the locks at the football complex. Fuck him.

[Dgenx321]

he did the same last year.

I think he's the bastard brother of Petrino.

[FAB802]

There's no way in Hell I even let him near the players or football comlex. Let an assistant coach the bowl game and get started looking for his repalcement.

[Dgenx321]

I'm sure you guys can have Pornstache.

[Idioteque]

LOL... y'all are whacked.....

[Dgenx321]

I'm happy.

If he tries to run his same O in the Big Ten, he's screwed.

[FAB802]

I'm sure you guys can have Pornstache.

He outcoached him a couple weeks ago. Good riddance.

[Capt-Ron]

Dgenx321

Glad you are happy he screwed WVU. Glad you are happy he went to Michigan. Glad you are happy you are an OSU fan.

All that said, I'll be back to laugh at you when he blows your favorite team out of the water.
You wished Rod would take the Mich. job, now you have your wish.......OSU fans will never change.....A-Holes

[Dgenx321]

I could give a shit about Rich.

He had WVU begging him to stay last year like dogs and he told them he would. They were dumb enough to believe him.

1 year later he punks them over and bolts for the team up north.

Believe me, if he doesn't change his thinking he won't do squat in the Big Ten.

[Southern Steeler]

I'm happy.

If he tries to run his same O in the Big Ten, he's screwed.

You DID watch Oregon against Michigan right? And Florida against OSU?


If he can get Michigan level talent and bring that kind of offense what in the world makes you think that anyone in that slow-ass conference will be able to stop it?

[Capt-Ron]

[QUOTE=Dgenx321;1790]I could give a shit about Rich.

You sure had a lot to say about him, to not give a shit.....

Pitt Charlie said it best....beware what you wish for.

[Dgenx321]

I just think the guy slapped WVU in the face, after Ohio State they are the team I root for.

The way he did them in was wrong.

[Capt-Ron]

I just think the guy slapped WVU in the face, after Ohio State they are the team I root for.

The way he did them in was wrong.

Agreed...he slapped WVU. That said...there is NO WAY WVU is the team you root for after OSU!!!!

You are either an OSU fan, all the way, or you are not.
I will always be a Mountaineer fan, no matter what happens.

By your thinking, you'll be a Brownie fan if the Steelers aren't in the playoffs.:confused:

SAD...really SAD

[Dgenx321]

What are you talking about??


I'll always root for OSU, but I like WVU also.

You know, you can have other teams you root for.

[Capt-Ron]

What are you talking about??


I'll always root for OSU, but I like WVU also.

You know, you can have other teams you root for.


Not if they're rivals..... There is no way you can root for OSU and Michigan. There is no way you can root for the Brownies & the Steelers....unless you're a front running, bandwagon fan. Take your pick. It has to be one or the other.

[FAB802]

The only way WVU would play OSU is if, I don't know, the coach who's screwing his University doesn't blow a game against the Pitt Panthers? It isn't unusual to root for teams that are either your local team or you know someone who plays for them as long as they aren't playing your team.

Most of this board was rooting for the Rats against the Patsies.

[Capt-Ron]

I still maintain that you don't root for a rival team AND your favorite team. Example: I really love the Steelers but it's O.K. that the Jags won, because I like them also. WRONG!!! If a rival team beats someone that helps your team, fine. Other than that....pick one team and stick to it. I'm sick of front running fans.

[FAB802]

That isn't what he was talking about. I went to Eastern High School. My kids, because of where we now live go to Waverly which is a rival. My daughter is a guard for Waverly. I have and will continue to root for my alma mater until I die. Does that mean I have to root against my own kid when they play them? It's a GAME.

When is the last time OSU played WVU? They are NOT rivals. Thanks to the new Michigan coach they won't be playing this year either.

[Capt-Ron]

That isn't what he was talking about............. . I have and will continue to root for my alma mater until I die. .

Having your kids and friends play for a rival and rooting for your favorite teams are two different things. Naturally, you root for your kids if they play against your favorite team. What i'm saying is, if NO relatives or close friends are involved, there is no way you can root for BOTH rivals. Pick one or another.....PITT or WVU.....OSU or Michigan.....Brownies or Steelers.....pick one.

Dgenx321 came on here stating he was a OSU fan and then liked WVU. You can't have it both ways.....unless he has kids at both schools:confused:

[Dgenx321]

No reason to root for WVU other than 75% of my family lives there. I used to spend alot of time in Lumberport, Shinnston and Rhinehart when I was little.

You'll shit a brick when I tell you I root for the Cincy Bearcats also.

My Buddy I went to high school with, Adam Hoppel starts for them:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/players/118459

[Capt-Ron]

You seem to have missed the part where I said FRIENDS & RELATIVES playing for your rivals teams.

I still say you can't root for 2 rivals, when all things are equal. Pick one team or another.

DGenx321...you came on here to post a slam against WVU... I hear you.You've done it in a subtle way but I've heard your kind for over 55+ years. I've heard it from Pitt fans, I've heard it from Penn State fans, ad nauseam.

I'll defend my team until I die. You'll do the same. Bring it on. I'll reply..

[tapeANaspirin2it]

You DID watch Oregon against Michigan right? And Florida against OSU?


If he can get Michigan level talent and bring that kind of offense what in the world makes you think that anyone in that slow-ass conference will be able to stop it?

It's funny. SEC fans act as if every team in the SEC is running the spread option when in fact only Florida runs something close to it. WVU would have scored plenty of points in the SEC this year/ Oregon would have lit up the supposed great LSU defense as well.

The spread option with the right QB is nearly impossible to stop, it doesn't matter who you are. USC couldn't stop Vince Young, and it damn sure wasn't because USC lacked speed. Yet, anytime a Big Ten team loses we have to hear that they just weren't fast enough. It's bullshit. Michigan had enough speed to play with USC last year, they just didn't have enough skill and Carr's defensive gameplan was cowardly (which is par for the course for Michigan in a bowl game).

If Rodriguez lures Terrelle Pryor to Michigan, then they will have success, at least in the short term, adding a few flashy players to Michigan's already well stocked program. In a few years, i think he'll let michigan become a finesse team, the defense and OL will start to fall off and then he'll start getting his ass kicked.

WVU has gotten away with an average OL and porous defense in the Big East. They've been able to simply outscore most people. You need a complete team to win the Big Ten. Rich hasn't recruited any complete teams in WVU. He'd better start if he plans on winning long term in the Big Ten.

If i was a WVU fan, I'd be wondering where Rich's head was for the Pitt game. A conspiracy theorist would say that it worked out better for Rodriguez that WVU is NOT playing for the national championship. If WVU was in the title game, there's no way RR could take another job. And it would be doubtful Michigan would wait until after the bowls to name a new coach.

[FAB802]

Tape I'm with you. He had a foot out the door last year. Good riddance to his ass, good record or no.

[Dgenx321]

You seem to have missed the part where I said FRIENDS & RELATIVES playing for your rivals teams.

I still say you can't root for 2 rivals, when all things are equal. Pick one team or another.

DGenx321...you came on here to post a slam against WVU... I hear you.You've done it in a subtle way but I've heard your kind for over 55+ years. I've heard it from Pitt fans, I've heard it from Penn State fans, ad nauseam.

I'll defend my team until I die. You'll do the same. Bring it on. I'll reply..


Ok first, WVU and Ohio State are not rivals. Never have been, never will be. I can't even tell you the last time they played.

Rich is a fucking Dick. He screwed over the program and if he wanted to leave he should have done it last year.

Please do show me where I slammed WVU and not Richie Boy??

[Southern Steeler]

It's funny. SEC fans act as if every team in the SEC is running the spread option when in fact only Florida runs something close to it. WVU would have scored plenty of points in the SEC this year/ Oregon would have lit up the supposed great LSU defense as well.

The spread option with the right QB is nearly impossible to stop, it doesn't matter who you are. USC couldn't stop Vince Young, and it damn sure wasn't because USC lacked speed. Yet, anytime a Big Ten team loses we have to hear that they just weren't fast enough. It's bullshit. Michigan had enough speed to play with USC last year, they just didn't have enough skill and Carr's defensive gameplan was cowardly (which is par for the course for Michigan in a bowl game).



For the record, I never mentioned the SEC in my earlier post. I only used those two high profile examples to make my point. A correct point, I may add.

[Capt-Ron]

Ok first, WVU and Ohio State are not rivals. Never have been, never will be. I can't even tell you the last time they played.

Rich is a fucking Dick. He screwed over the program and if he wanted to leave he should have done it last year.

Please do show me where I slammed WVU and not Richie Boy??

OK, you live within 35 miles of me. Tell me you've never talked to local WVU fans about how superior OSU is to the lowly Mountaineers. I've heard it all my life. OSU fans=Patriots fans. Smug, smart ass.you'll never be as good as us,fans.

You slammed Rod, and I agree with you, but in a backhanded way you got your jab in about WVU, just like every other OSU fan. Pick a team....one team please.

[Dgenx321]

To be honest, no I've never slammed WVU to anyone.

I like that team and root for them, hell I always stayed with my grandparents in the summer, they lived in New Cumberland WVa. So three months out of the year I pretty much lived in that state.

I know Buckeye fans are Smug, I've done it to Mich and Penn State fans. But growing up rooting for WVU I've never looked down at them.

I've grown up a Buckeye fan and WVU fan.

The way I look at it theres nothing wrong with that.

Now if I was a Mich fan and Ohio St fan, I'd need shot. lol

[Idioteque]

Those of you calling for the man's head.....

I hope the day your boss offers you a juicy promotion with a BIG pay increase at one of the most revered workplaces in America with access to FAR better co-workers and real national acclaim...... you tell him to shove it up his ass. Because you're committed.

[Capt-Ron]

OK...I'll give you a pass. Thought you was one of them " Better than You" OSU, Pitt, PSU fans.
Everyone is alowed to root for their own team...just not TWO of them.

[Dgenx321]

Anyways, where are you from if you're that close to me??

[tapeANaspirin2it]

OSU fans should be more worried that 14 of their juniors have asked the NFL for a draft evaluation.

[FAB802]

Those of you calling for the man's head.....

I hope the day your boss offers you a juicy promotion with a BIG pay increase at one of the most revered workplaces in America with access to FAR better co-workers and real national acclaim...... you tell him to shove it up his ass. Because you're committed.

Apples/oranges buddy. HIS boss didn't know he was interviewing with another company, let alone offer him the job. Would I leave my current job and everything I've put into it the last few years for what amounts to a few more dollars? For him the raise is a few more dollars. I would not. I work with kids, not a lot unlike what he does and the work I've put in with some of them and the impact I can make in their lives dwarves any money they could offer me. All of us aren't on this Earth to chase a buck. If that makes me stupid so be it.

He doesn't work for some corporation where his decision to leave only effects the company. His bailing on those kids the way he did shows he has ZERO integrity. He screwed his employer and all those kids he lied to telling them he'd be their coach. Fuck him. They should have cut his ass loose last year instead of keeping him around. I hope he never wins another game.

The far better coworkers thing is a joke. The team he's leaving is better than the one he's going to. The school and it's fans owe him credit for getting the program into the national spotlight which it hasn't been in a long time. Other than that? Good riddance.

[Dgenx321]

OSU fans should be more worried that 14 of their juniors have asked the NFL for a draft evaluation.

Tressel told them to do it.

[Idioteque]

Apples/oranges buddy. HIS boss didn't know he was interviewing with another company, let alone offer him the job. Would I leave my current job and everything I've put into it the last few years for what amounts to a few more dollars? For him the raise is a few more dollars. I would not. I work with kids, not a lot unlike what he does and the work I've put in with some of them and the impact I can make in their lives dwarves any money they could offer me.

He works with kids that are leaving at a dizzying rate. It's not like Li'l Steve Slaton is crying on the steps because he'll never hang with Rich Rodriguez again. SPORTS = CAREER. It's that simple. Are you gonna rail like this on the juniors that leave this and every year? Is Steve Slaton an asshole for if he has the NERVE to leave WVU and build a career? Was Roethlisberger a dick for bailing on his Miami teammates? Did they cry themselves to sleep when he left?

All of us aren't on this Earth to chase a buck. If that makes me stupid so be it.

I'm not either, but when your middle-aged with a family I would assume you're allowed to seek a better life/future. The money is only a small part of it (though it's not chump change - probably several million). The earning potential at Michigan is exponentially higher than at WVU, who may or may not even enter next season ranked. The kids he'll have the chance to recruit will be worlds better in Michigan. Not saying the team will necessarily be better, but he will have much, much more to work with.

Besides.... Michigan has tradition that WVU can't even dream of. Not only is he a great coach, he's the head coach at friggin' Michigan!!!! Again, it's easy to knock the guy right now, but he was offered a DREAM job and he took it.

He doesn't work for some corporation where his decision to leave only effects the company. His bailing on those kids the way he did shows he has ZERO integrity. He screwed his employer and all those kids he lied to telling them he'd be their coach. Fuck him. They should have cut his ass loose last year instead of keeping him around. I hope he never wins another game.

So he owes his soul to the COMPANY (yes, the wonderful WVU is a company makes untold amounts of money from these kids and their fans), is that what you're saying? He's indebted to them for life because he worked there a few years? Give me a break.

The far better coworkers thing is a joke. The team he's leaving is better than the one he's going to. The school and it's fans owe him credit for getting the program into the national spotlight which it hasn't been in a long time. Other than that? Good riddance.

100 years out of 100, Michigan will have a crack at better recruits than WVU. WVU had a better 2007 season (barely), but facts are facts and Rodriguez will have much more potential in Michigan.

The sports world is not Little Giants, or Rookie of the Year, or any other cliched sports flick. It's a business, for all those involved. Be realistic here. He put in some good years at WVU, now he wants to further his career. What an asshole!!!

To us, these coaches and players are gods and superheroes. In reality, they're coaches and players, human beings with human careers. And yes, though it may piss us off from time to time, they are allowed to improve their lots in life.

[Capt-Ron]

[QUOTE=FAB802;2151

The far better coworkers thing is a joke. The team he's leaving is better than the one he's going to. The school and it's fans owe him credit for getting the program into the national spotlight which it hasn't been in a long time. Other than that? Good riddance.[/QUOTE]

Agreed....He put WVU in the national spotlight.

That said, he used the success of his players to further his monetary awards. He will make a lot more money at Michigan than the players he left behind will in the NFL.

Please boys....stay at WVU...I'll stick with you...Oh wait, someones callin'

WV people remember...they remember forever...Turn your back Rod and you'll never come home, no matter where you're from. No matter what your success.

Only WV people will understand what I just said

[FAB802]

1. The kids leaving at a dizzying rate argument. They get four years. Five if they redshirt. They are there to either get an education or improve themselves enough to make a living. They are not getting paid, so comparing a kid trying to make a living to a coach making two million a year is silly. Not even in the same ballpark. I never bitch when a player leaves early to make a living. That's why they go to college, to improve their opportunites in the real world.

2. I can't argue that he won't get to pull from a better pool of players at Michigan. I live here, I'm aware of the program's history. If that is ultimately what he was looking for he should have been a man and said so instead of sneaking around. Two years in a row by the way. It's WVU's fault as much as his for not seeing the writing on the wall after last year.

3. He doesn't owe the University shit. He does owe the kids he brought there, and their families that bought into his bullshit something more than what he's given them the last two years. Unlike you or me they get to sit out a season if they decide to go somewhere else which also makes this different than you or me deciding to seek employment elsewhere if we don't like a new boss. They're held hostage there unless they want to give up a year of their lives. I'm not concerned in any way for the University.

4. If you think that asking him to have some integrity when dealing with a situation like this is comparable to a bullshit movie you're the one who needs to give me a break. I gave him credit for getting the program back in the spotlight after a long drought. I didn't say he wasn't a good coach. I know that if he's sitting in my living room from here on out and my all american quarterback son is considering playing for him it probably won't happen. These coaches and players are by no means Gods to me. I deal with both major college and professional athletes all the time. They're just people.
He has every right to look into better opportunities as long as he does it the right way.

Ultimately we can just agree to disagree. It doesn't mean either of us are wrong, we just have differing opinions on what is the right way and wrong way to handle this situation. He's not an asshole for trying to further his career. He's an asshole for the way he did it.

[Capt-Ron]

Stand by my statement...turn your back and you'll never come home. Somethings aren't worth money.

I know this statement doesn't ring true with many of you, but it does with Mountaineer fans.

[Idioteque]

1. The kids leaving at a dizzying rate argument. They get four years. Five if they redshirt. They are there to either get an education or improve themselves enough to make a living. They are not getting paid, so comparing a kid trying to make a living to a coach making two million a year is silly. Not even in the same ballpark. I never bitch when a player leaves early to make a living. That's why they go to college, to improve their opportunites in the real world.

2. I can't argue that he won't get to pull from a better pool of players at Michigan. I live here, I'm aware of the program's history. If that is ultimately what he was looking for he should have been a man and said so instead of sneaking around. Two years in a row by the way. It's WVU's fault as much as his for not seeing the writing on the wall after last year.

3. He doesn't owe the University shit. He does owe the kids he brought there, and their families that bought into his bullshit something more than what he's given them the last two years. Unlike you or me they get to sit out a season if they decide to go somewhere else which also makes this different than you or me deciding to seek employment elsewhere if we don't like a new boss. They're held hostage there unless they want to give up a year of their lives. I'm not concerned in any way for the University.

4. If you think that asking him to have some integrity when dealing with a situation like this is comparable to a bullshit movie you're the one who needs to give me a break. I gave him credit for getting the program back in the spotlight after a long drought. I didn't say he wasn't a good coach. I know that if he's sitting in my living room from here on out and my all american quarterback son is considering playing for him it probably won't happen. These coaches and players are by no means Gods to me. I deal with both major college and professional athletes all the time. They're just people.
He has every right to look into better opportunities as long as he does it the right way.

Ultimately we can just agree to disagree. It doesn't mean either of us are wrong, we just have differing opinions on what is the right way and wrong way to handle this situation. He's not an asshole for trying to further his career. He's an asshole for the way he did it.

So the right thing would have been to say all along "yeah, someday I'm going to take a better job. As soon as a top-tier school offers me more, I'm gone"?

I don't see a damn thing wrong with how he handled it... he denied it publicly because he was still HC of the Mountaineers and has a team to take into a bowl game and he took the job now because it's the highest-profile vacancy there is and would have been filled elsewhere.

I see your point, but I think it might be sour grapes, man. I thought Saban screwed the Dolphins royally but this one I have no problem with.

[Hines57]

Go Blue. Fuck the haters

[FAB802]

Hines, he lost to Pitt, MSU beat their ass with half the talent. You can have him buddy.

[Coryea]

I hate Ohio State, and Rodriguez gives OSU's biggest rival a better chance to beat them. Pryor also crossed WVU off his list of possible schools and added Michigan.

[FAB802]

Id I fail to see the difference between what Saban did and what he did. It matters a damn, he's gone. All I care about is WVU and the team. It isn't sour grapes. That's too polite.

[FistfullofRings]

I'll plead ignorance, but would like to hear opinions on these possibly ignorant statements.

Michigan is getting Rich Rodriguez, not Pat White and Steve Slaton.

Michigan won't be as coach friendly on recruiting the Pac Man Jones and Chris Henry's of the world.

[Jmat]

My problem with Rodriquez is that fact that he flat out lied to his WVU players then stabbed them in the back, took the Michigan money and told the WVU students, faculty, administration and Alumni to go fuck themselves and that is exactly what he did.

In my opinion any kids that were going to WVU, or any other school where this happens for that matter, because of what the coach that recruited promised them should be let out of their obligation to the school just as the coach thumbs his nose at his obligations.

It's the kids that get royally screwed over by these worthless, lying, scum bag coaches.

But hey, Fuck the kids.

These young folks are learning to trust or believe no one.

[SteelerFan448]

If these coaches can move so easily they should just go to a yearly contract. They have proved to mean nothing. I know a lot of people say players should chose the school, not the coach, but that just isn't realistic. With Rodriguez going, any WVU player should be able to transfer this season without sitting a year, because you know most of those guys signed because Rodriguez was their HC. They should have the same right to move now that he does.

[Dgenx321]

Why even have contracts anymore??

Just pay them by the game, as a contract is about as worthless as a pile of dog shit.

[Stainless]

The word on the street here in Michigan is that Rich is a big fan of blue & gold.

[Stlrs4Life]

You know, the way he went about this makes me dislike this guy. He had it all in WV.

He lost to Pitt, but they didn't call for his job.

Let him lose once to Ohio State and he'll be dreaming he was back in Morgantown.


No doubt, I can't understand why he would leave WVU. They will probably be pretty good next season.
They are calling him a traiter in W Va.