Marvel Smith You Suck!!!

[Chicoman]

I Can't Take Watching This Piece Of Shit On Our O-line! 4 Sacks Give Up Today!!!

Take A Seat On The Bench!!!

[Dgenx321]

Maybe if we bought him a bag of weed he'd wake his ass up and play some ball!

[Supersteeler]

Bad game today for 77. Real bad.

[Lunar7]

Marvel Whiff.

[steelcan58]

Four sacks is flattering. Their performance is much worse than that. Ben is lucky to be alive/.

[TDX27]

The entire Oline sucked but he was the worst.

[Supersteeler]

The entire Oline sucked but he was the worst.

Today he was. Last week it was Colon, before that it was Mahan. What do you do, bench everyone? We need some new bodies this off season.

[njsteel]

I kept an eye on him most of the game today...

I can honestly say that he may be the worst OL I have ever seen. Really :mad:

[STLRFAN78]

if we dont draft LOTS of lineman on bot sides of the ball we are screwed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pete]

I just thought to myself, "I wonder how many offensive line threads has chicoman created during the game".

[steelreeling]

The sick thing is that this has been happening all fucking year long!

Marvel has been lunging at people since the wildcard game in 05. Yet, the homers here are so goddamned quick to sluff it off. You're labeled here if you comment on how bad a player is sucking on the field. People did it with Mahan and Marvel when we were winning the easy ones early on. But it only crystallizes to people when we get fucking man-handled like this. If Starks would've started at LT, then i think we win this game.

I got another one for ya, how many times do we need to get painfully out-coached in order for anyone (media or otherwise) to light a fire under Mike Tomlin's ass? Or do we go home without a playoff berth and Tomlin gets a "pass" for being a rookie..... which is complete bullshit because he inherited a talent-loaded team

[TDX27]

Today he was. Last week it was Colon, before that it was Mahan. What do you do, bench everyone? We need some new bodies this off season.
Free agents and the draft.

Did you see how fucking big the Jags oline and dline were? Those dudes are huge. That is what I'm talking about. I have been saying it for 2 years now. WE NEED BIG UGLIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Coryea]

And it gets worse, while Faneca isn't having his best year, he's easily our best guy and he's gone after this season.
Kemo couldn't beat out Simmons. Simmons and Mahan both signed pretty decent contracts, they aren't going anywhere, Starks is RFA I think, and Colon is back.

[steelcan58]

I got another one for ya, how many times do we need to get painfully out-coached in order for anyone (media or otherwise) to light a fire under Mike Tomlin's ass? Or do we go home without a playoff berth and Tomlin gets a "pass" for being a rookie..... which is complete bullshit because he inherited a talent-laoded team


Our OL completely sucks - we will be losing our only decent OL in FA. 3 of our 4 LBs are washed up.I would say we need to replace at least one DB. That is 8 of 22 starters. And our Special teams are thin.

How is this a talent laden team?

[Chicoman]

I just thought to myself, "I wonder how many offensive line threads has chicoman created during the game".

Actually in game this is the first one! I can't take it anymore!

Marvel Smith doesn't belong on this roster. I have hated this bum for the past 4 seasons now. He's slow, fat & lazy. Even during the Super Bowl run his play was terrible.

Go back to the SuperBowl and watch that 3rd & long in the 2nd QTR....where Ben scrambles to his left and stops before the line of scrimmage and tosses it deep to Hines who catches it at the 3 yard line.

During that play focus on #77 Marvel Smith. It's FRIGHTENING really!!!:mad:

[Blitzburghv5]

Im just tired of seeing this MFker gettin whipped play after play only to have nothing to show but his fuckin hands on his waist or flat on his ass. His prime and his time has passed ive concluded.

[Jmat]

Tomlin in his post game press conference said that Marvell Smith was benched because his back was killing him.

He shouldn't have started in the first place if you ask me.

[Chicoman]

Tomlin in his post game press conference said that Marvell Smith was benched because his back was killing him.

He shouldn't have started in the first place if you ask me.

Whats Marvel's excuses for the his pathetic performance the rest of his career?

[kurtistb]

Whats Marvel's excuses for the his pathetic performance the rest of his career?

perpetual case of the Mensies would be my guess

[Steeler B]

yeah, what a piece of shit today!

[steelreeling]

Our OL completely sucks

Thank you mister Zeirlein





- we will be losing our only decent OL in FA. 3 of our 4 LBs are washed up.


Cowher wasn't the ultra-cool Shaft who apparently was the decider and let Peezy go. Cowher had talked star players into taking less money before.



How is this a talent laden team?


Umm bike-wreck, appendicitis, SuperBowl karma and we STILL, FUCKING STILL almost made the playoffs (one fucking game mind you). You don't salvage a 4-12 season back to 8-8 on caoching alone, although it helped.

[steelcan58]

You still haven't explained how we can be loaded with talent when we need to replace or upgrade in at least 5 or 6 starting positions. Our LBs have suddenly gotten old at the same time. Signing Porter to a huge contract at the end of his career WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED MATTERS.

[donzz]

And it gets worse, while Faneca isn't having his best year, he's easily our best guy and he's gone after this season.
Kemo couldn't beat out Simmons. Simmons and Mahan both signed pretty decent contracts, they aren't going anywhere, Starks is RFA I think, and Colon is back.

max is a F.A.

[steelreeling]

Okay, we are/were not talent laiden then? B-fucking-S.

We have the next coming of Joe Montana at QB; literally when it's all said and done, most likey on the order of the top 4 quarterbacks to EVER play the game. K? 1,000 yard back Willie Parker, not a short yardage back but a difference maker keeping the DBs with eyes into the backfield. A fucking bulldozer FB Kreider still in his prime. A great, but emotional LG who's probably going to Canton even though his play is slipping just a hair. Oh let's see another HOF player in Ward. He has lost two steps, his hands make him a phenomenal possession WR. And Santonio Holmes-- an up and coming speedy WR; an honest deep threat. That's 3 guaranteed Hall-of-Famers and a sieve at LT. Hardly any other teams can boast that much talent (at the skill positions no-less) offensively.

Defensively, we had an aging, pro-Bowl OLB who could still play after losing half a step. Our NT Hampton and SS Troy are the best in the business and will definitely go into Canton. DE Smith is a monster 3-4 end and our top CB is/was all-pro talented but suffering from what seemed like a big head. Hmm two HOFers and a mediocre pass rushing LB core. Seems like enough to me.

Every team has their weak links on each side of the ball. Our guys aren't that much differenet than say Indianapolis. Not every guy can be Dwight Freeney; some have to be Dan Klecko. You can't give Farrior, Foote, Simmions, Starks, Keisel, and Haggans that much shit because as 5 year+ vets they held firm during the tenure of better gameplans. They're not any worse than what the Titans or Browns are fielding for filler players. Asking them to block for 12 second, double move patterns or to cover the middle zones in a Cover2-3 hybrid is alot to ask from them. Smarter coaching from the coordinators would help this group immensley. Conversely, haveing all that talent, we would be a playoff team to be reckoned with.

[FAB802]

Reeling, I guess you're watching a different team than I am. We'll make the playoff's, and anything can happen. We're very fortunate to be in the division we are.

[steelreeling]

Reeling, I guess you're watching a different team than I am. We'll make the playoff's,

Jesus I hope to God you are right. I fear a loss to Lambs and no playoffs. Fuck.

[FAB802]

Jesus I hope to God you are right. I fear a loss to Lambs and no playoffs. Fuck.

We need to win that game for sure. If I drive seven hours and they lose to those fuckers I may get arrested.

[SteelrzGirl]

We need to win that game for sure. If I drive seven hours and they lose to those fuckers I may get arrested.

Call me. I'll keep bail on hand.

[FAB802]

Call me. I'll keep bail on hand.

PM me the number, just in case.

[steelcan58]

Okay, we are/were not talent laiden then? B-fucking-S.

We have the next coming of Joe Montana at QB; literally when it's all said and done, most likey on the order of the top 4 quarterbacks to EVER play the game. K? 1,000 yard back Willie Parker, not a short yardage back but a difference maker keeping the DBs with eyes into the backfield. A fucking bulldozer FB Kreider still in his prime. A great, but emotional LG who's probably going to Canton even though his play is slipping just a hair. Oh let's see another HOF player in Ward. He has lost two steps, his hands make him a phenomenal possession WR. And Santonio Holmes-- an up and coming speedy WR; an honest deep threat. That's 3 guaranteed Hall-of-Famers and a sieve at LT. Hardly any other teams can boast that much talent (at the skill positions no-less) offensively.

Defensively, we had an aging, pro-Bowl OLB who could still play after losing half a step. Our NT Hampton and SS Troy are the best in the business and will definitely go into Canton. DE Smith is a monster 3-4 end and our top CB is/was all-pro talented but suffering from what seemed like a big head. Hmm two HOFers and a mediocre pass rushing LB core. Seems like enough to me.

Every team has their weak links on each side of the ball. Our guys aren't that much differenet than say Indianapolis. Not every guy can be Dwight Freeney; some have to be Dan Klecko. You can't give Farrior, Foote, Simmions, Starks, Keisel, and Haggans that much shit because as 5 year+ vets they held firm during the tenure of better gameplans. They're not any worse than what the Titans or Browns are fielding for filler players. Asking them to block for 12 second, double move patterns or to cover the middle zones in a Cover2-3 hybrid is alot to ask from them. Smarter coaching from the coordinators would help this group immensley. Conversely, haveing all that talent, we would be a playoff team to be reckoned with.

You're right - I shouldn't shit on Farrior. He has served us well in the past. But it is time for him and us to move on. Haggans and Foote on the other hand both benefited from a great system with a lot of talent around them. There are a lot of players who could have done what they did in that situation.

We do have a lot of talent and at key positions. I think you have overrated some - Ben is no lock for HoF yet and may not even survive to get there if we don't fix our OL.

Will we be a playoff team to be reckoned with? Doesn't look like it this year. Too many weak links to cover. And we aren't physical enough. I don't think that part is bad coaching yet. If he doesn't replace the guys who don't stand up and be counted next season then it is coaching.

[Coryea]

Jesus I hope to God you are right. I fear a loss to Lambs and no playoffs. Fuck.
Since Buff and Denver lost, I think all we need is Tenn. to lose one of their next two games and we are in, regardless of what we do. I may be wrong, but heading into this weekend, we were in if Den, Buff, and Tenn lost, regardless of what we did.

[kurtistb]

Reeling, I guess you're watching a different team than I am. We'll make the playoff's, and anything can happen. We're very fortunate to be in the division we are.

I don't know. I'd rather be in one of the three other divisions where our 9-5 record would have already clinched, but thats just me.

[FAB802]

I don't know. I'd rather be in one of the three other divisions where our 9-5 record would have already clinched, but thats just me.

I wasn't talking about hand picking conferences. The bottom line is we're in this mess for losing to the damn Cardinals and Jets.

[SteelerFan448]

Let's not put it all on Marvel...Willie Colon sucked pretty bad today as well.

[Super Heathen]

I don't know. I'd rather be in one of the three other divisions where our 9-5 record would have already clinched, but thats just me.


Not me. I either want to get in honestly as a proven good team or i want us exposed as a fraud team that needs positional upgrades in a hurry.

[5RINGS]

The Steelers are gonna have to start bringing in some free-agent guys and i mean good free-agent guys. We can not do it with the draft alone. Our misses in past drafts are really hurting us today. Add in the 3rd and 4th round picks from last year and we are in trouble. We need too much to improve this team. I do not think we need to go WR early in the draft. I would prefer rebuilding the core of this team's identity first. We need to go all OL and all defense, taking the best players available with each pick.

[SteelrzGirl]

Jesus I hope to God you are right. I fear a loss to Lambs and no playoffs. Fuck.

Shouldnt you be worried about Kyle Orton?

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Hopefully we'll see Starks at RT vs Rams on Thurs. I wonder if moving Smith back to RT would help. He looked slow, broken down, and seems like he really doesn't mind someone getting past him.

[FAB802]

Hopefully we'll see Starks at RT vs Rams on Thurs. I wonder if moving Smith back to RT would help. He looked slow, broken down, and seems like he really doesn't mind someone getting past him.

If he's all those things he should be collecting unemployment, not switching positions.

[5RINGS]

you know it's bad when we are asking for Starks.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

Yeah it's bad, but the beating Ben is getting behind the current line is worse. Maybe we can put Faneca there if they don't want to put Starks in there. Just do something.

[steelreeling]

And we aren't physical enough. I don't think that part is bad coaching yet.

I think that has everything to do with the coaching, ESPECIALLY Mr. Mike Tomlin.


If he doesn't replace the guys who don't stand up and be counted next season then it is coaching.

Of course i agree with this whole-heartedly on this. It's just that i see all this goddamned talent we have. And the Patriots, you look at their names, they're not fucking Gods. Moss has been taken out of physical games. Brady tends to fold like a cheap suit if only even one guy gets up in his grill thru a blitz. Wilfork is great, but he's only one man. Maroney too. We could take it too them, but our team is playing more like Tomlin's Pittsburgh Bengals and not the Steelers of old.

[TazmanianDevil43]

Free agents and the draft.

Did you see how fucking big the Jags oline and dline were? Those dudes are huge. That is what I'm talking about. I have been saying it for 2 years now. WE NEED BIG UGLIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



imagine that................and that's with Stroudt being out.

man if we hopefully make the playoffs that 's one team i do not want to face.

[5RINGS]

imagine that................and that's with Stroudt being out.

man if we hopefully make the playoffs that 's one team i do not want to face.

Does not matter who we face in the playoffs. We are done.You can't fix what ills our team this year. If you could, they'd be getting better weekly.

[leftcoaststeelerfan]

imagine that................and that's with Stroudt being out.

man if we hopefully make the playoffs that 's one team i do not want to face.

Considering the mess we have at O-Line I thought we hung in there. Ben did what he needed to do, he made plays. If we somehow meet up with the Jags again, I think we take em. Our defense has lost its mojo. Without the dominant pass rush, we're gonna get exposed every game.I heard someone mention we should change the defense to tailor it more to what we have on the team and less dependent on non existent pass rush. Some one has to step up. If the current LB's corps is not getting the job done, then make changes. Put Timmons or Woodley in there more in key situations to see if they can provide some pressure.

[Punxsutawney]

Marvel played horribly yesterday. There is no denying that, but the truth is he should not have played. When healthy, he is not THAT bad.

I blame Tomlin for yesterday's disaster at LT more than I blame Marvel. Tomlin should have seen prior to the game that Marvel was nowhere near 100% and went with Starks.