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so being falsely accused of a crime (if that is the case here) is a violation of the policy
The personal conduct policy makes it clear that Goodell could suspend Ben. Whether he does or not, who knows?Originally Posted by SteelerScott
Personal Conduct Policy:
"As an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard. Persons who fail to live up to this standard are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime."
so being falsely accused of a crime (if that is the case here) is a violation of the policy
What constitutes a higher standard? Does walking out on your pregnant girlfriend violate this standard? How bout having multiple kids with different mothers? DUI? Smoking weed? Scratching your ass in public?
Is masturbation considered conduct detrimental to the league?
If good ole Roger suspends Ben, when no charges are laid, he'll be biting off more than he can chew.
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New article from ESPN says that the woman's friend told the bouncer that her friend was in the bathroom but that one of Ben's friends wouldn't let her in. I'm guessing that it wasn't Colon because she probably could have broke right through.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5028720
This in my opinion is a huge deal, she supposedly blew off the first interview with the cops, she lawyers up, and then a week or so later they come out and say she is willing to cooperate, I say LIEING BITCH, she blew off the the first interview because it wasn't enough time for her lawyers to coach her with what to say to the cops. the more this goes on, the more I think Ben was out with his buddys having a good time, and did nothing wrong, to much [FILTH] just don't make sense.
Any good lawyer will have a jury eating out of his hands if this ever went to trial, lets recap. No DNA, drunk UNDER AGE girl, no video tape, she lawyers up day one, she misses a scheduled police interview,she knows the persons EXACT height and weight,there are no witnesses (that we know of),and Ben so far has cooperated with the cops.also who knows what the video taken of their party may show, it may show her drunk ass all over Ben, Its no wonder Bens lawyer is so confident, wouldn't you be?
Her lawyer is saying she never blew off any interview and the police never said she did. He said it was misinformation.
Yes, let's ask Bridgette Moynahan about Tom Bwady's 'consistent easiness in refined company'.
Tom Brady sodomized my dog. Suspend him for the season.
What's idiotic is that he's already had one situation brought on by his behavior, and that has not been resolved and he puts himself right back in the same situation. Well if all else fails he can plead insanity, because what is the definition of insanity?
"“I understand what it means to be a true Pittsburgh Steeler,” said Ward. “Being honored at the dinner means something because it reflects what I do outside of football too. Even though we are not paid to be role models, we are role models.”---Hines Ward 4/16/10
That's a fascist policy because what if Ben is vindicated in both cases? Then it wasn't Ben who was making the league look bad it was his accusers dragging Ben and his private life and by doing that the NFL into it. It just seems incredibly unfair.
"“I understand what it means to be a true Pittsburgh Steeler,” said Ward. “Being honored at the dinner means something because it reflects what I do outside of football too. Even though we are not paid to be role models, we are role models.”---Hines Ward 4/16/10
He does seem at ease and refined...
Well the point was fast but it was too blunt to miss.
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That's excusing Ben from his actions and while he may not be guilty, he was still putting himself in bad situations. That can't be denied. It's not like there are other players in the league in this trouble- twice. It can't be a coincidence. Clearly, other players in the league aren't putting themselves in this position.
LMFAO. It looks like he's complaining to the ref that a defensive player broke his nail.
He does seem at ease and refined...
Was it a wiener dog?
Strictly applied, the NFL`s policy would result in suspension of several owners. I recall one just this last season who gave the fans (and TV viewers) the finger. Actually, both fingers. There are a couple of minority owners in the Dolphins who made their money spewing the filth known as "rap". I guess this doesn`t make the NFL look bad.
Ben has not even been charged with a crime yet, he is simply accused or appeared to be engaging in a sexual offense. So right now, the way I read the policy, he is only subject to an evaluation.
You left this out the beginning.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10081/1044705-66.stm
It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful.
Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime. Discipline may be imposed in any of the following circumstances: Criminal offenses including, but not limited to, those involving: the use or threat of violence; domestic violence and other forms of partner abuse; theft and other property crimes; sex offenses ...
In addition, the policy states:
Apart from any disciplinary action, persons arrested, charged or otherwise appearing to have engaged in conduct prohibited under this policy will be required to undergo a formal clinical evaluation. Based on the results of that evaluation, the person may be encouraged or required to participate in an education program, counseling or other treatment deemed appropriate by health professionals.
If charges do get applied to this, and even if they are dropped later, Goodell will have to suspend him, look at Pacman when he had charges brought on him...they were dropped later, but he still got suspended. I think he will get away with no suspension ONLY if charges to not get brought on to him.
Damn straight! The Steelers have suffered thru many other individuals with much more serious problems and no one once held that against the organization nor the Rooney family to my knowledge,like Tim Worleys drug abuse problems or John Reinstras pyscho behavior,Ernie Holmes had issues with the law big time and I never once read where that was held against the organization and why would it??? I effin hate journalists! The persons credibility that should be held in suspicion are these so called writers stirring up [FILTH] for the sake of getting their names out there,[FILTH] em!
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