Brice McCain?

[steelerscotty]

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN ...s-cb-brice-mccain-one-and-done-with-dolphins/

Seems he will be released by the Fins. We could get him back at near league min, plus still get the 6th-7th round comp pick for losing him last year.

 

[POP]

If we can get for league min., go for it. Signing back Gay sure worked out for us. He would be an upgrade of Blake, at the very least.

 

[steelpastor]

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Absolutely... McCain still has elite speed. Most would have preferred him over Blake anyway. If McCain were to be signed... Blake is done.

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[MTC]

I thought McCain had a decent season with us. As did Blake that season

 

[Litos]

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN ...s-cb-brice-mccain-one-and-done-with-dolphins/

Seems he will be released by the Fins. We could get him back at near league min, plus still get the 6th-7th round comp pick for losing him last year.

Just as Colbert planned it all along, you guys didn't see it coming

 

[SteelerFan448]

Never wanted him to walk in the first place. He was a solid player for us and would at the very least provide valuable depth as a No. 3/4.

 

[BLITZ]

he wasn't used properly in Miami. He would look good in the black and gold

 

[Shane Falco]

If LeBeau doesn't grab him first.

 

[deljzc]

I'm pretty sure players like McCain are how we are going to "fix" our secondary. No doubt in my mind we continue the secondary by mediocre committee for another year.

 

[Stryker]

He's better than Blake

 

[Supersteeler]

I'd definitely be interested in bringing McCain back. He wouldn't cost too much either. As others have already said, let Blake walk, sign McCain and re-sign Gay. The secondary is already improved right there. Then see if you can sign either a mid tier CB or Safety once free agency starts and then concentrate on the other position early in the draft. Also, so much depends on Senquez Golson and what he can provide. Even if he can play in the nickle package and provide some help it would be huge. .

 

[Tibs]

He's better than Blake

Looks like every single free agent cornerback is better than Blake.

From PFF's rankings:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/01/11/pro-2016-free-agency-tracker/

1. Sean Smith 83.8 CB 29 Chiefs 967 UFA
2. Josh Norman 83.7 CB 28 Panthers 1203 UFA
3. Adam Jones 83.3 CB 32 Bengals 945 UFA
4. Casey Hayward 82.7 CB 26 Packers 1067 UFA
5. Trumaine Johnson 82.2 CB 26 Rams 931 UFA
6. Janoris Jenkins 80.7 CB 27 Rams 1064 UFA
7. Patrick Robinson 79.4 CB 28 Chargers 713 UFA
8. Leon Hall 78.4 CB 31 Bengals 735 UFA
9. Prince Amukamara 78.4 CB 27 Giants 779 UFA
10. Brandon Boykin 76.9 CB 26 Steelers 407 UFA
11. Terence Newman 76.3 CB 37 Vikings 1014 UFA
12. Josh Thomas 75.4 CB 27 Cowboys 67 UFA
13. Shareece Wright 74.7 CB 29 Ravens 502 UFA
14. William Gay 74.5 CB 31 Steelers 1234 UFA
15. Kyle Wilson 74 CB 29 Saints 509 UFA
16. Tavon Wilson 72.7 CB 26 Patriots 83 UFA
17. Jeremy Lane 72 CB 26 Seahawks 356 UFA
18. Nolan Carroll 71.6 CB 29 Eagles 771 UFA
19. Crezdon Butler 70.9 CB 29 Lions 23 UFA
20. Charles Tillman 68.3 CB 35 Panthers 723 UFA
21. Darrin Walls 67.9 CB 28 Jets 125 UFA
22. A.J. Bouye 67.6 CB 25 Texans 209 RFA
23. Cortland Finnegan 67.5 CB 32 Panthers 324 UFA
24. Sterling Moore 66.8 CB 26 Buccaneers 729 UFA
25. Cassius Vaughn 66.4 CB 28 Chargers 44 UFA
26. Darryl Morris 63.4 CB 25 Texans 96 RFA
27. Alan Ball 60.6 CB 31 Bears 255 UFA
28. Brandon Harris 60 CB 26 Titans 0 UFA
29. Brice McCain 58.6 CB 29 Dolphins 735 CUT
30. Tarell Brown 57.2 CB 31 Patriots 163 UFA
31. Phillip Adams 56.6 CB 28 Falcons 435 UFA
32. Corey White 53.9 CB 26 Cardinals 114 UFA
33. Marcus Sherels 53.7 CB 28 Vikings 9 UFA
34. Brynden Trawick 52.4 CB 26 Ravens 88 RFA
35. Tracy Porter 50.5 CB 30 Bears 856 UFA
36. Jerraud Powers 49.5 CB 29 Cardinals 935 UFA
37. Ron Brooks 49.2 CB 27 Bills 54 UFA
38. Will Blackmon 47.2 CB 31 Redskins 882 UFA
39. Jayron Hosley 47 CB 25 Giants 539 UFA
40. Coty Sensabaugh 46.1 CB 27 Titans 1021 UFA
41. Neiko Thorpe 45.5 CB 26 Raiders 464 RFA
42. Josh Robinson 44.8 CB 25 Vikings 12 UFA
43. Tashaun Gipson 44.6 CB 26 Browns 822 UFA
44. Mike Jenkins 44.4 CB 31 Buccaneers 342 UFA
45. Cary Williams 44.1 CB 31 Redskins 645 UFA
46. Trumaine McBride 43.8 CB 30 Giants 345 UFA
47. E.J. Biggers 43.7 CB 29 Eagles 571 UFA
48. Johnson Bademosi 43 CB 26 Browns 176 UFA
49. Jalil Brown 42.8 CB 28 Colts 315 Colts
50. Jamell Fleming 41.5 CB 27 Chiefs 157 UFA
51. Chris Owens 39.6 CB 29 Saints 13 UFA
52. Sherrick McManis 39.1 CB 28 Bears 302 UFA
53. Morris Claiborne 38.5 CB 26 Cowboys 672 UFA
54. Greg Toler 35.9 CB 31 Colts 692 UFA
55. Antwon Blake 35.1 CB 26 Steelers 1046 UFA

 

[obxsteeler]

Lots of rankings out there. But if you look at stats--Smith 29 yrs old-45 tackles-12 passes defensed-2 int-0 forced fumbles. Blake 26yrs old-76 t-11 pds-2ints-1 ff. Significant upgrade? Blakes first year as a starter. We on the Board haven't always been right on CB's either. Remember how anxious we were to dump Gay and how much heat we gave Tombert for not spending 6M+ to not retain Lewis?

 

[Litos]

Surprising to see crezdon butler close to William gay in that list

 

[slashsteel]

Lots of rankings out there. But if you look at stats--Smith 29 yrs old-45 tackles-12 passes defensed-2 int-0 forced fumbles. Blake 26yrs old-76 t-11 pds-2ints-1 ff. Significant upgrade? Blakes first year as a starter. We on the Board haven't always been right on CB's either. Remember how anxious we were to dump Gay and how much heat we gave Tombert for not spending 6M+ to not retain Lewis?

how about how many yards given up thru the air air and missed tackles?

the answer to your significant upgrade question is


YES

 

[Supersteeler]

how about how many yards given up thru the air air and missed tackles?

the answer to your significant upgrade question is


YES

Blake is good for one or two pretty good plays a game, either a big hit or a nice pass breakup. The problem is that he also makes 4 or 5 bad plays a game that usually result in big yardage whether they are poor tackles, missed coverage or bad angles. The bad outweighs the good so they have to move on.

 

[freak]

Lots of rankings out there. But if you look at stats--Smith 29 yrs old-45 tackles-12 passes defensed-2 int-0 forced fumbles. Blake 26yrs old-76 t-11 pds-2ints-1 ff. Significant upgrade? Blakes first year as a starter. We on the Board haven't always been right on CB's either. Remember how anxious we were to dump Gay and how much heat we gave Tombert for not spending 6M+ to not retain Lewis?

i would like to see the stat pass completed allowed between the two

 

[SteelerFan448]

I'd definitely be interested in bringing McCain back. He wouldn't cost too much either. As others have already said, let Blake walk, sign McCain and re-sign Gay. The secondary is already improved right there. Then see if you can sign either a mid tier CB or Safety once free agency starts and then concentrate on the other position early in the draft. Also, so much depends on Senquez Golson and what he can provide. Even if he can play in the nickle package and provide some help it would be huge. .

Not necessarily given the fact that it's unlikely that they won't retain Boykin. That situations still irritates me. As long as Blake is gone, though, it will be addition by subtraction. I'd like to have him back as a No 4/5, but don't trust the staff after watching them trot him onto the field time and time again last season.

 

[madinsomniac]

Lots of rankings out there. But if you look at stats--Smith 29 yrs old-45 tackles-12 passes defensed-2 int-0 forced fumbles. Blake 26yrs old-76 t-11 pds-2ints-1 ff. Significant upgrade? Blakes first year as a starter. We on the Board haven't always been right on CB's either. Remember how anxious we were to dump Gay and how much heat we gave Tombert for not spending 6M+ to not retain Lewis?

However blake has fundamental issues with stiff hips, its not an experience thing, and has a history of letting up big plays because he is always going for the big hit, and for two years now has shown to be a sub par tackler... its obvious they like him for his hitting, but that does not make him a good corner... he is a liability that is challenged so often that the stats he has are just a byproduct of the ridiculous amount of times he was targeted.


I don't know why people are down On Keenan Lewis... he played this season with a Groin tear and the saints D is utterly atrocious... he is a much better CB than we have on the roster right now, and that includes gay, who had a fabulous season, but did benefit from teams testing Blake so much

 

[Litos]

Blake on vet min fighting for a roster spot with Grant and a rookie at the start of camp would be ok for me.
Gay, FA, Cockrell, Golson, Blake, Grant, rookie (3rd/4th rounder)

 

[nooneuno]

I don't know why people are down On Keenan Lewis... he played this season with a Groin tear and the saints D is utterly atrocious... he is a much better CB than we have on the roster right now, and that includes gay, who had a fabulous season, but did benefit from teams testing Blake so much

I don't even know why people bring up Keenan Lewis. He wanted to play for the Saints and left I don't know why some people seem to hold resentment to the front office for that. The Steelers offered him a bigger contract than the one he signed to play in New Orleans. What more can you do? He obviously wanted to go back home and did.

 

[Steelerfan]

#3 on that list might look good in b&g..........a black and gold coffin

 

[Steelmann]

Look at where Morris Claiborne is,could you imagine how pissed we would be? I mean he was what # 6 overall,and the Cowboys traded up to get him,giving up their 2nd.

 

[MTC]

how about how many yards given up thru the air air and missed tackles?

the answer to your significant upgrade question is


YES

Yes!

....but not missed tackles. Broken tackles. Blake was getting his lunch taken every play he was in for a tackle it seemed

 

[FordFairLane]

I still think the Steelers re-sign Blake but he either signs cheap now or cheap later but they hopefully will stick to their guns and offer a 2-3 year 3-5 million dollar deal. I could see them going as high as 3 million a year for Gay and then release Allen or he takes a significant pay cut. If he doesn't take a pay cut sign McCain to a 2 year cap friendly deal to compete. I honestly don't see Boykin wanting to play here after we started Blake over him for so long.