Jason Worilds
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Simple really.....someone is scared to admit they ****** up...
and in the playoff game vs the rats he was pushing aroundlike a rag doll
You give someone every chance to succeed ...but at some point you just have to face the fact ...$11 mill is way past that point for me...but what do I know I'm just a dumb fan on an internet message board..
What exactly were "you" expecting to hear about Worilds at this time??? The truth? If the FO shows their hand already - they might as well give up already...
and that is bad ...how exactly ? Let someone else deal with it...don't even waste the time talking about it..
Well, basically, that was my point via sarcasm...
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I'd only use it as leverage to get a reasonable long term contract. Worlds has played in the league for what 5 years. His ceiling and basement are clearly established. No other team is going to sign him to an unreasonable long term deal. If they sign him to reasonable. Match and keep.
Dude had 7.5 sacks playing for a team in desperate need of pass rushers in what is a contract year...then whines about being used wrong...can you imagine the results after a big pay day..5.5 sacks awesome
Have you ever watched NFL free agency? It's where teams do nothing but overpay for mediocre players (especially those at key positions like CB and pass rusher).
Transition player means you get paid the average of the top ten highest paid players at your position, IIRC. Worilds is nowhere close to the top ten in talent or ability.
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If someone is going to overpay for Jason Worilds there is nothing you can do about it, but apply the franchise tag which would be insane. The only other way to stop it would be to overpay themselves which is equally bad. This team got itself in the cap situation that it is in, by
1) having a franchise QB which costs a lot.
2) overpaying guys that used to leave. Those were good commitments when the guys were young, but lately they have been hanging on to old guys who used to walk. They have also been overpaying semi unproven guys like Allen who seemed like the best player we had at the position. The Steelers have to take the position with Worilds that they will pay a reasonable market value for what he has done (what he is capable of, which clearly isn't much more than he has done). If he wants more, replace his sacks/ coverage with someone similar (which can't be that hard). They wouldn't be replacing JJ Watt here.
It is and would be beyond stupid to tag Worilds or pay him more than 5 million per season. He is NOT worth it. The WIN in the situation is to tell him to get out and not let the door hit him in the *** on the way out.
Starks was a good player but the puzzling part was that they could have got him for less. That was a situation where the FO liked the guy and the coaches did not, but then they couldn't come up with anyone better.
I'm more concerned with how it is that the Steelers call in Starks, Keisel, and Harrison and after no training camp and spending a few months on their couches watching The Price Is Right, they are instantly the best players at their respective positions.
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On July 23, 2009 Max Starks signed a contract for the Steelers 4-years, $26 million with $10 million guaranteed.
12 months later Max Starks was benched in favor of JON SCOTT and FLOZELL ADAMS.
12 months after that Max Starks was released, a complete free agent and never got a SNIFF in free agency and was an unemployed, 29-year old, fat ex-NFL player until the desperate Steelers called him again 4 weeks into the season.
There is no definition of "good player" in that entire scenario. None. Max Starks sucked and the fact we consider his time here somehow "okay" defines how ***-backward our assessment of offensive line play was between 2007-2012.
and the talent evaluation ... starting at left jonathan scott was a blasphemy
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couldn't agree more Ron. A role sure. But both of them instantly took major reps. What is that telling you. I feel the same about adding an experienced back after Blount walked. That was a no brainer. You needed a guy for what 8 weeks. What is that 400 K. And the proof was in the pudding. When Bell was injured Tate took most of the reps with two or three practices. What did that tell you about the way they really felt about Harris and Archer.
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Starks always seemed pretty good in the passing game at LT to me.
Was he overpaid in many of the years? Probably, but Jonathan Scott proved that one could do much worse than Starks.
Starks was the only OL who started in all three of their last Super Bowls. I didn't mean to imply that he should be an All-Pro but he was pretty good and certainly better than any LT they've had since. Obviously the coaches didn't like him but all he did was end up beating out whoever they tried to to replace him with year after year. So Tomberts's talent evaluation and coaching failed on a couple of levels there, just like it has more recently with the LB's and Dri Archer.
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'bout the same way they felt about Gradkowski when he had to fill in for Ben after a truck ran over him. Brucie goes 2 for 3, get's a first down and yanked back out quick so's a dizzy Ben can rush back in and screw the pooch. If these guys are so low on the "I believe in them" meter, why are we paying them at all. Lemme think a minute about.how many players we have that don't have the talent to play...hmm.
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In addition to that, they only gave Beachum a chance at LT because they had no choice when Levi Brown got hurt after they traded for them.
Had Beachum started that season at LT, they probably don't t start the year 0-4 and make the playoffs,
We have become a team that way over pays out players especially lb's. Timmons and worilds are way over paid. Wait until jones rookie contract is up Tombert will make him the highest paid lb'er ever just to prove they were right with that selection