right now seems more than when jarvis contract is up he will let go like ziggy hood
Jason Worilds
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right now seems more than when jarvis contract is up he will let go like ziggy hood
Bouchette said in his chat that he is starting to think they may tag Worilds again. This guy is just not that good. I have no idea why the FO loves him so much. They better not tag him.
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I'd rather pay Brandon Graham/Pernell McPhee an avg of 7-8 mil/yr than pay Worilds 3-4 mil more for the same or less production. If we're gonna pay big money...might as well make a run at Houston!
The thing I like about both Graham/McPhee is both can and have played and produced at 4-3 End and 3-4 OLB. We will be running both next season.
The thing I like about both Graham/McPhee is both can and have played and produced at 4-3 End and 3-4 OLB. We will be running both next season.
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I don't think it's because they believe he is that good, but they have no other options. If they don't tag him and he gets away, it's not like they are going to spend to bring in a better player. There are no young guys waiting in the wings who are ready to step in. Their hands are tied because of poor drafting and personnel decisions.
Agree, plus Graham's character is fantastic as well. He'd make a great Steeler.
please stop with the no other options stuff...there are other options they just are trying to save face ...as has been said Graham is another option younger and not in need of 11 million ,,,but they would rather tag Worilds ...
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I was talking about on the roster, which there are no other options. I don't even know if a guy like Graham were come here as he is said to want to sign with a team that runs a 4-3.
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Jason Worilds is NOT worth a "tag" money. Pure and simple.
if he is taged / signed, then Colbert needs an @ss kicking
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Tombert is hoping and praying a switch goes off with Worilds so they don't look like morons for drafting and tagging him once already.
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The window of the Big Ben era is starting to close and if they can't get the defense fired up again they are going to miss a chance at a couple more shots at a Super Bowl so Ya the don't want to play worilds but they are thinking they don't have a choice.
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Yeah, I heard that too BUT I also heard he would stay in Philly (w their 3-4) for a 4yr/30mil contract w 20mil guaranteed. Plus, we run plenty of 4-2-5 and will run some 4-3 at times according to Butler. J.Jones cannot be a 4-3 end IMO. I don't even know if he can hold the edge in the 3-4 but he's no JPP for sure.
Our best hope is for another team to pay him stupid money that the Steelers can't afford to match.
I disagree with this. I could not stand max and the stupid contracts. However when he got called in off the street the team / line played much better. I also thought he played better (for much cheaper) after being called in than his previous years. The way I look at is we overpaid him, then underpaid him so it balances out. I think he was a good, but not great player for a couple years at least.
I do not recall Jon Scott keeping the job for long if I remember correctly. I think the best tackles we have had on the team for quite a while were Max and Flozell.
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And my point is that statement pretty much summarizes how bad this organization was in building it's offensive line for over half a decade. We think Max Starks was a "good" player only because we are comparing him to what other options we had. History has proven the league (and people outside of Pittsburgh) think Max Starks is a very below average tackle. He was a complete FREE AGENT only 24 months after receiving $10 million guaranteed from this organization, was only 29 years old, was healthy and capable of playing (albeit fat and out of shape), and NOT ONE TEAM wanted him. He was on his couch and unemployed throughout all of August and September. By definition, that means 32 teams thought both their STARTING TACKLES (64 each) and their primary backup (32 each) were better than Max Starks. That is not a good player.
I just read again that it is likely they will tag Worilds again. I will be so pissed. He is not worth $11 million or whatever the tag amount is. We could sign 2 good LB's for that money. Cut his ***. Sign Moat's back for 2-3 million per and then sign another free agent and there you have it. We will be much better than last year by just doing that. Heck, you could even bring back Harrison for another year. All of that could be done for about the $11 million tag or so. Why are they so stupid as to over pay for a player like this. Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!
Like I stated in another thread...If Worilds gets tagged, Tombert should be fired on the spot. Over paying mediocre FA is just like over-drafting for need.
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If worilds is getting more than 4-6mill, he is most definately over paid. What is the risk factor of keeping him vs signing someone else??? Butler isn't going to keep the exact same defense. I'd think on e could break the line up, or at least play in thier first year. Provided they have the skills, but the easier simplicity, should allow a fresh face to have a shot. Jason needs a break, let him test the waters / market.
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Let Worilds walk, for the tag money find a serviceable OLB and CB in FA, and continue to rebuild D in the draft.
Moneyball.
Moneyball.
Jason's arrow is pointing up, if you will obviously, because he is familiar with our schemes and is a high-motor guy of pedigree when it comes to situational football, obviously. The rest is popcorn back at the lab.
Translation: He is average but at least he knows our defense and I'd rather have him than someone brand new. Besides, it makes me look bad to let another draft pick walk because he sucks. People have realized that by last year no one from the '08 and '09 drafts were on the team, only three players were still in the NFL at all, and one of them is Craig Urbik.
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he is not a 9 mill OLB at best 6-7 6 years 40 million 9 mill SB take it or leave it, if he wants more let lebeau lure to the **** we can go after Sheard on a 4-5mill per year annual average deal. instead, re sign Mccain, Moats, and Will Allen.
Cut Cam Thomas, Moore
target fa's Clayborn CB Jackson S Searcy S Rolle DE/OLB Graham DT Klug
Cut Cam Thomas, Moore
target fa's Clayborn CB Jackson S Searcy S Rolle DE/OLB Graham DT Klug