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wig

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Ole Mendenhall wasn't so bad either...
 

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One thing for sure is that Fast Willie had more 20+ yards runs than Bell. Willie was also a pretty good blocker as well. Leveon had some good traits but his numbers are skewered due to how many touches he had. Hell, Bell had missed the last game of season and still had 1 2/3 games more touches than the next closet "touch" RB. This "great generational" L. Bell was way over used and depended upon thus NOT opening up and giving anyone else a chance to expand our offense as much.

Willie has a SB record rushing TD, what SB rushing attempts yet alone records does L.Bell have?



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One thing for sure is that Fast Willie had more 20+ yards runs than Bell. Willie was also a pretty good blocker as well. Leveon had some good traits but his numbers are skewered due to how many touches he had. Hell, Bell had missed the last game of season and still had 1 2/3 games more touches than the next closet "touch" RB. This "great generational" L. Bell was way over used and depended upon thus NOT opening up and giving anyone else a chance to expand our offense as much.

Willie has a SB record rushing TD, what SB rushing attempts yet alone records does L.Bell have?



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That was a stand up on the table full screaming gooooooo moment for me on that 75 yd run. The whole Steeler bar went fucking nuts
 

wig

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Willie Parker Was the man. Ben has no rings without Fast Willie Parker. Fuck Rashard Mendenhall
Oh, it hurt when bloodline came crashing through unblocked and crushed Mendenhall the moment he got the ball. I believe in my heart that if that play isn't made, the Steelers go on to score in that drive, breaking the Packer's lead and their spirit and they win the game.

That fumble sucked. But as I remember it, sadly the FB completely whiffed on on the block.
 

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Oh, it hurt when bloodline came crashing through unblocked and crushed Mendenhall the moment he got the ball. I believe in my heart that if that play isn't made, the Steelers go on to score in that drive, breaking the Packer's lead and their spirit and they win the game.

That fumble sucked. But as I remember it, sadly the FB completely whiffed on on the block.

That Full Back is proudly known as "whiff" Johnson.

Mendenhall shouldn't be judged on one play as he was pretty good considering the OL at the time. I agree with you on the possible change of momentum and out come of game had we went on to score in that drive.



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My fave FWP moment is his first start against the Bills on the last game of the regular season...only Steeler fans knew who he was and what he was capable of. Of course, he ran all over the Bills and knocked them out of playoff contention.

My buddy (in the band I was with) is from Niagara Falls and is a YUGE Bills fan...calls me up and sez "who the fuck is Willie Parker?" Lolz.
 

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My fave FWP moment is his first start against the Bills on the last game of the regular season...only Steeler fans knew who he was and what he was capable of. Of course, he ran all over the Bills and knocked them out of playoff contention.

My buddy (in the band I was with) is from Niagara Falls and is a YUGE Bills fan...calls me up and sez "who the fuck is Willie Parker?" Lolz.
Did you appropriately reply SUHWEEEEET TITTIES!
 

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Thread regarding 2008 Steelers with 11 posts before me and not 1 mention of that defense. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 

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LT Mike Adams, LG Ramon Foster, C Maurkice Pouncey, RG David DeCastro, RT Kelvin Beachum


So do we still think Najee Harris is gonna light the world on fire this year?
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LT Mike Adams, LG Ramon Foster, C Maurkice Pouncey, RG David DeCastro, RT Kelvin Beachum


So do we still think Najee Harris is gonna light the world on fire this year?



Najee will be the best RB we've had in a long time. Scheme will help him immensly and his ability is lights out. Our OL will give him enough to be a factor in our overall scheme of offense.

LeMEon Bell's style of run would not bode well for this OL.


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Najee will be the best RB we've had in a long time. Scheme will help him immensly and his ability is lights out. Our OL will give him enough to be a factor in our overall scheme of offense.

LeMEon Bell's style of run would not bode well for this OL.


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i think Najee has to be even better than that because scheme-wise the OLine is a terrible, terrible fit. Let's hope that Najee is the next Walter Payton because...
 

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i think Najee has to be even better than that because scheme-wise the OLine is a terrible, terrible fit. Let's hope that Najee is the next Walter Payton because...


Just curious as to how they are a miserable fit when the starting OL hasn't actually been determined yet? Time will tell as TRAINING CAMP is fastly approaching. A lot will be determined and believe me, CANADA's scheme will be hands down better than Fitchner's ever was, how did that OL do in that scheme?

My comment is we will do much better with Najee in this new scheme than with himin the O'l Randy scheme.




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yes Johnson whiffed completely on his block Mendy got through the hole and without the FB he was 1-3 and it was when Clay AJ were solid LB's who hit him really hard.
 

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Just curious as to how they are a miserable fit when the starting OL hasn't actually been determined yet? Time will tell as TRAINING CAMP is fastly approaching. A lot will be determined and believe me, CANADA's scheme will be hands down better than Fitchner's ever was, how did that OL do in that scheme?

My comment is we will do much better with Najee in this new scheme than with himin the O'l Randy scheme.




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i say miserable fit because amongst the guys that we do have on the OL - the unit neither road-grades man-on-man against the big-boy DL of the AFC, nor can they get out quick and seal-off DL/LBers in a zone scheme. Though there are 1-2 OL that can do either ONE of the afore mentioned schemes fairly well, none great.

Canada comes in with a quandry: move to an outside (or inside) zone scheme so that the weaker OL dont have to win their battle every time. They just have to skeddadle, position quickly, push, scrub and wash. Or move to an inside game with unbalanced sets where your interior guys beat the shit out of DL and allow the superior numbers, TEs and C, etc. to move up to the second level and win against lighter D, nickel, FS, etc.

Now Canada has nothing to fit either scheme. Green was great out on the kick, out in space in college - prolly good pro at the outside running game (he'll learn the inside w/ time in the pros), DeCastro is declining in that area but serviceable. Dot & everyone else just cant get there; and as a consequence they get rag-dolled and thrown down. As far as chewing up & moving people, Dot is pretty damn good with Chucks being serviceable, the rest get their lunch money stolen.

That leaves you w/ Najee. In the pros he's a jump-cut inside running guy bulldozing the D at the second level. With an OL decent at mauling, Najee will look damn good in the pros. But he's REALLY NOT McFarland (w/ Canada in Maryland) or Travis Etienne. He'll do okay zipping out east-to-west but he doesnt have the afterburners to stretch the D on a Terrell Davis-like 25-30 yards lateral pitch and cut.

Let's HOPE to Jesus that people are low-balling Freiermuth's run-blocking prowess. You might rue the day we let Fitchner go. Yearn for last year's running game! how sick would that be?
 

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i say miserable fit because amongst the guys that we do have on the OL - the unit neither road-grades man-on-man against the big-boy DL of the AFC, nor can they get out quick and seal-off DL/LBers in a zone scheme. Though there are 1-2 OL that can do either ONE of the afore mentioned schemes fairly well, none great.

Canada comes in with a quandry: move to an outside (or inside) zone scheme so that the weaker OL dont have to win their battle every time. They just have to skeddadle, position quickly, push, scrub and wash. Or move to an inside game with unbalanced sets where your interior guys beat the shit out of DL and allow the superior numbers, TEs and C, etc. to move up to the second level and win against lighter D, nickel, FS, etc.

Now Canada has nothing to fit either scheme. Green was great out on the kick, out in space in college - prolly good pro at the outside running game (he'll learn the inside w/ time in the pros), DeCastro is declining in that area but serviceable. Dot & everyone else just cant get there; and as a consequence they get rag-dolled and thrown down. As far as chewing up & moving people, Dot is pretty damn good with Chucks being serviceable, the rest get their lunch money stolen.

That leaves you w/ Najee. In the pros he's a jump-cut inside running guy bulldozing the D at the second level. With an OL decent at mauling, Najee will look damn good in the pros. But he's REALLY NOT McFarland (w/ Canada in Maryland) or Travis Etienne. He'll do okay zipping out east-to-west but he doesnt have the afterburners to stretch the D on a Terrell Davis-like 25-30 yards lateral pitch and cut.

Let's HOPE to Jesus that people are low-balling Freiermuth's run-blocking prowess. You might rue the day we let Fitchner go. Yearn for last year's running game! how sick would that be?

Good post !


I'm more a guy 1/2 full as I think our offense will be way better this year than last. We drafted a pretty good RB and FO (front office) mandated a committment to the run. Randy Fitchner is gone and we can't celebrate that enough.

I realize there are obstacles but still moving forward and up as last season left us near nowhere to go but up.




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steelreeling

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Good post !


I'm more a guy 1/2 full as I think our offense will be way better this year than last. We drafted a pretty good RB and FO (front office) mandated a committment to the run. Randy Fitchner is gone and we can't celebrate that enough.

I realize there are obstacles but still moving forward and up as last season left us near nowhere to go but up.




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Thanks man. i hope the glass is half full. I think Canada uses decoys and motion for momentum and situational calls to be more unpredictable than Fitch. It did work better.

I just scared that all the trapping and scheming can blow up in your face - big time - if the Line is weak, and particularly if it's weak in the middle. Which is why i'd like the picks and FAs to have more cohesion on the OL and RB.

Having Ben back helps a TON. noodle-arm should be stronger this year.
 

steelerscotty

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Oh, it hurt when bloodline came crashing through unblocked and crushed Mendenhall the moment he got the ball. I believe in my heart that if that play isn't made, the Steelers go on to score in that drive, breaking the Packer's lead and their spirit and they win the game.

That fumble sucked. But as I remember it, sadly the FB completely whiffed on on the block.

That would be one David 'whiif"Johnson
 

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Oh, it hurt when bloodline came crashing through unblocked and crushed Mendenhall the moment he got the ball. I believe in my heart that if that play isn't made, the Steelers go on to score in that drive, breaking the Packer's lead and their spirit and they win the game.

That fumble sucked. But as I remember it, sadly the FB completely whiffed on on the block.
That play and Kemo getting bull rushed into Ben's arm when he threw an INT early in the game also fucked us.
 

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